# Night\_Hawk's Pheremone Journal **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [December 2, 2010, 4:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688 "2010-12-02T16:05:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/101 "2016-06-07T23:05:53Z")
IH can be a bitch šŸ˜ƒ. It can seriously backfire with self-effects and make you spill unsuspected beans all over, lol. To avoid that, spray the product on your hands or wrists (or even on the exterior side of the forearms). Avoid the neck, jaw lines, faceā€¦ at allā€¦ costā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/102 "2016-06-08T00:54:03Z")
lol, now I get told!! šŸ™„ Kind of difficult, as I poured all the mixes into one 30ml bottle and gave it a damn good shake, lol. I am noticing that Iā€™m ā€˜spilling the beansā€™ as it were, a heck of a lot easier than normal. Iā€™m not even noticing Iā€™m doing it, until after Iā€™ve done it, then Iā€™m questioning myself if I have indeed just blurred out what I was thinking; and half the time I have, as the reaction Iā€™m getting from my work colleagues is ā€œWhoah!!!ā€ Iā€™ll take that advice on-board with the next batch I buy. I guess itā€™s good for people to find out your true feelings, seems to be working around other people too, but on me, it seems to be most potent, as I seem to be getting a full hit when I speak, lol. On the plus side, at least the person I have an interest seems to be now aware that I like her, no rejections on that front so far, early days I guess, will keep updating this journal over the coming week. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/103 "2016-06-08T03:38:23Z")
Speaking your mind and your true feelings isnā€™t always bad, especially with a special someone. But caution is advised, because not everyone is THAT special (lol). And the thing is just that you canā€™t help it. youā€™ll speak. Thatā€™s why I always wear it on my hands or wrists and apply it right after getting out of the car when I arrive on site wherever I go (meeting, interview, etcā€¦) to avoid the enclosed space effect which can be a silent enemy too. Luckily, only IH forces this kind of puzzle with me. ---
**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2016, 4:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/104 "2016-06-08T16:42:04Z")
Seems the ā€˜specialā€™ one does actually like what Iā€™m saying though, lol. šŸ˜‰ Itā€™s not often I have a good conversation with someone, especially the other sex, tend to be shy, but I feel like weā€™ve known each other for years, even though itā€™s been just over a month, something just feels right. I just seem to be caught off-guard when others ask me questions and Iā€™m not actually thinking of what theyā€™re saying. Usually Iā€™m thinking of something else, or fixed on a task; and my subconscious just seems to take over my mouth; and Iā€™m like ā€œwhoa, where the heck did that comes from? More to the point, did I really just say it out aloud?!ā€ ---
**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 5:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/105 "2016-07-04T05:00:08Z")
So, tonight I wore the wrong spray in work - ammo summer. I wasnā€™t paying attention when I sprayed myself, nor notice that the scent was different to my normal neroli mix!! Safe to say, it was a shift I wasnā€™t expecting though, certainly turned heads within the male department, as there was this one female that got the full hit, lol. She went passed me, stopped and proceeded to sniff my neck, then started kissing it, lol!! šŸ˜ƒ Deffo not had that happen before with ammo on itā€™s own, usually something else is applied (tuth, CTTMV2, etc), but it was then that the reality dawned on me, ā€œEek!!ā€ šŸ˜® So, 6 hours of my neck being kissed wasnā€™t all that bad, although Iā€™m back in work in a few hours and I can only imagine how that shift is going to go down, lol. So much for keeping the ammo for clubbing, thatā€™s where I usually wear it! Ah well, this is NH signing off until my next visit. šŸ†’ ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/106 "2016-07-04T14:17:16Z")
Awesome hit. Sometimes it can be fun to wear the wrong mix just for the hell of it. It is just hard to not get yourself in trouble. I have worn sexual stuff to work before and it has got me in a lot of trouble because I am married. Just have fun with it as long as it does not cost you your job or create any trouble for you. ---
**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2016, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/107 "2016-07-04T23:15:53Z")
It wasnā€™t as bad as I thought; and to be honest the management are far worse for flirting than the staff on any given day, so I had a few minutes of the guys having their fun at my expense; and then it ended. Well, it kind of ended for oh, 20 minutes, then the same girl appeared. I was wearing my normal mix (Tuth, Shine, IO, IH, CTTMV2), which I have mixed together in a 30ml bottle sprayed to the front/back of my neck and one spray of P102 to my forearm, rubbed in with the other arm. She walked passed, said, ā€œHereā€™s my manā€ and started kissing my neck again! WTF?!! Wasnā€™t as intense as yesterday thankfully, but the guys started up again, lol. Only had to endure it for 2 hours, as she then finished her shift, but it set the mood for the guys for the remainder of the shift, what could I say other than, ā€œWell, Iā€™m not going to say no to free kisses!ā€ lol. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 4:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/108 "2016-07-06T04:50:46Z")
Iā€™m curious, whatā€™s the ratio of TUTH, Shine, IO, IH and CTTMV2 in that mix of yours? Are TUTH, Shine, IO and IH all 1X strength? ---
**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 5:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/109 "2016-07-06T05:45:04Z")
You know, I think itā€™s the 1st time in a long time that Iā€™ve actually looked at the 2-go bottles for their strength. I was going to say theyā€™re all 1x, (including the ammo summer), but it looks like the Tuth is 2.5mcg, which I wasnā€™t aware of. P102 is 5mcg, again I thought it was less than this. With the exception of the ammo and P102, all the others have been added to a 30ml spray bottle which did contain [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) (10mcg) at some point. I tend to only know the strengths of the 30ml bottles, as I always go for the same mcgs every time, but itā€™s been a while since I have bought any of those. ---
**Author:** ![Conjurator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/conjurator/32/410_2.png) [@Conjurator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Conjurator)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 4:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/110 "2016-07-06T16:03:52Z")
If I get this right, to make that mix of yours, you poured one complete to-go bottle of each of the following: TUTH, IS, IO, IH and CTTMV2 in a 30-ml bottle? ---
**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [July 6, 2016, 6:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/111 "2016-07-06T18:58:35Z")
yep. Got it in one. Usually, I use a pipette and measure out different amounts of the ā€˜Pā€™ range (P74 5/10/15/20mcg, P83 5/10/12/15/20mcg, P91 10mcg and P102); and if I have them, Iā€™ll mix them up with the ā€˜MXā€™ range. I may also throw in a few of the instant mixes, just for the hell of experimenting, such as IS, IO or CTTMV2. Some have worked and given good results, some have given off a god awful smell, that even a skunk would have trouble living with! I find I get different results from using the 30ml spray head as opposed to the 2-go spray head, feels like Iā€™m getting more coverage per spray?!! Or am I imagining that, lol? However, I do transfer whatever concoction into a 2-go if Iā€™m going out. I also have noticed that the room/outside temperature plays a part too. I tend to do a lot of my testing in an indoors environment where the temperature is set to between 15C and 21C. If I go clubbing, or are outside, I obviously have no idea of the temperature and itā€™s the use of general observations to see if any tell tale signs are at work. So far, Iā€™ve not had the ā€˜sex pantherā€™ effect of everyone running for cover, lolā€¦ [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/uploads/pheromonetalk/original/2X/5/5b780f75fbf4905ce8bb325dc33f92d11f6ccbad.jpeg "Anchorman - Sex panther") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ccp-lEmoAE) ā€¦If anything, people like the smell of neroli; and Iā€™ve used both the 6% and cologne strength (20%?). Iā€™ve mixed it with ammo summer and certain mones make it give off a light floral/bubblegum scent, but as I post above, not all and sometimes I think ā€œYuck, what have I made?!ā€ I did try to mix [Molecule C](https://a314.com/product/molecule-c/) (TAC) and P74 with a random bottle of cologne Iā€™d bought in the shop about 6 months back. Scent seemed to be good for about 5 days; and then clearly something was brewing in the bottle, as the scent went nasty pretty quick!! I guess we all learn what works and what doesnā€™t. Thatā€™s the fun part of experimenting; and why I come back every couple of months to buy more. Iā€™ve never used the A314 Oil 30ml. I think the word ā€˜oilā€™ has put me off buying it, despite all the positive feedback. The only version of that Iā€™ve used is with the 2-Go range and I found one to be slightly more overbearing than the other, forget which one though, lol. I do like trying out new things in the 30ml sections, but as of late, Iā€™ve gone back to the instant line. Theyā€™re fun in a bottle and can liven up the most dullest of days for most that have the chance to encounter the scent. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2016, 3:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/112 "2016-07-07T03:09:52Z")
I have tried mixing a bunch of stuff to some were ok for me. I would definitely try and use the smaller Togo bottles in case it does not work out so you would waste a lot less. The bigger 30ML sprayer does make a much wider spray I think than the Togo bottle sprayer. I use the Togo sprayers for like my wrists and forearms and use the 30ML sprayer when I want a wider coverage area like my neck or hair. I know we are not really suppose to mix, but like you said it is a hobby and the key is to have fun with it and am glad to see another user that has done the very exact thing I tried to. I posted about my mixes and experiments and is in my journal and you can find it by the link in my sig and in the guide will be on the bottom. I have found it is best to let setup a while as from the first day to about the 5th day it is a totally different mix. I have found about 5 days of sitting with a few shakes throughout the day like morning and night to work best. ---
**Author:** ![von\_phero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e8c25b/32.png) [@von\_phero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/von_phero)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 11:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/113 "2016-07-11T11:14:34Z")
Can you tell me a bit about what effects p91 does for you? ---
**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/114 "2016-07-11T12:27:19Z")
I find P91 to be non-sexual. When I tested it on its own I didnā€™t get one hit like an attractant. If anything, it gives off more of a fun vibe around people, which is just as good. I used it quite a while ago, but I remember someone saying it was believed to be a key ingredient in MX297, I donā€™t know how true that is? Iā€™ve tried MX297 in a 2-Go bottle a few times (once buying it to experiment, a couple of times getting it as a freebie), but wasnā€™t too keen on the scent if Iā€™m honest, possibly because Iā€™m used to Neroli, possibly, I donā€™t know. It kind of reminded me of mulled wine, (Thanks AD for all the freebies, like it or not, Iā€™m grateful that you send them; and I do end up using them either on their own or mixed with other mones). Although, unlike P91 being a non-attractant, I find MX297 to be slightly the opposite, fun vibe, plus lots of flirting, just wish I could get it in a different scent. šŸ™„ Ammo Summer is the only other scent Iā€™ve tried and liked, maybe in the near future Iā€™ll try others, but I admit, I prefer sticking to scents I know and like! šŸ˜‰ I ended up mixing P91 with other products, as what I came to call a ā€˜Frankenstein mixā€™ and some worked and some didnā€™t. I found different results using the 30ml sprayer to the 2-Go sprayer, surprisingly, I got a better hit with one mix using the 2-Go spray head, it just seemed more overpowering when using the 30ml spray head. I guess, less can be better than more in some instances. Until you posted above, I hadnā€™t really thought about P91, Iā€™m thinking of revising what I intended to get in my next order, so thanks. I had fun mixing it with the followingā€¦ 1/4 P74 10mcg 1/4 P91 5mcg 1/4 [Molecule C](https://a314.com/product/molecule-c/) 10mcg 1/4 Ammo FF22 The quarters (1/4) are the approximate measurments I visibly saw when filling each mone into the bottle using a pipette. The above mix I dubbed ā€˜Franky 3ā€™ which worked way better in a 2-go than it did in the 30ml bottle. I guess we all like to experiment!! The above mix (when I tested it) gave off a happy social mix, although there was clear signs of flirting from some; and lots of hugging when I walk into the room. ---
**Author:** ![von\_phero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e8c25b/32.png) [@von\_phero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/von_phero)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/115 "2016-07-11T14:10:59Z")
I think I read somewhere that p91 was the main constituent of mx297, of which gives me the greatest consistent luck. I dont know what the source of the information was but its in the back of my brain somewhere.. Could be just a passing presumptuous rumour though. Sounds like my kind of molecule and does sound like some of the qualities of mx297 though.. For me its about getting results. I wonder if they will ever unveil the contents of mx297? Thanks for the response, i like the look of that mix you got there. ---
**Author:** ![justintime469](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/justintime469/32/1402_2.png) [@justintime469](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/justintime469)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 12:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/116 "2016-07-13T00:36:51Z")
I liked P91. I did not get and attraction or sexual hits with it, but it maid people have more fun and was very bubbly type of molecule. I reported on it when I was still trying to figure out putatives, so I may have to revisit this molecule. If I remember right I get this drunk kind of hi feeling which for me I did not care for to much. ---
**Author:** ![von\_phero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e8c25b/32.png) [@von\_phero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/von_phero)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/117 "2016-07-13T09:15:46Z")
Realized the putative forum has a wealth of comments now for p91. I may be ordering it soonā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/118 "2016-07-13T11:01:55Z")
Yep, just had a look myself. Looks like my findings are the same as others. šŸ™‚ Not seen the ā€˜drunk effectā€™ with it, but I think itā€™s one I will be re-visiting too. I was pricing up a few things last night. The thought of ā€œDo I get 30mlā€™s? What mcg?ā€ or, ā€œDo I get lots of 2-Goā€™s and experiment?ā€ are my thoughts at the moment. I see AD have added a 3% extra light fragrance, wonder what thatā€™s like/for? Will it bring the smell of the mones out more, I mean, some give off a right pong, lol. Iā€™m also thinking on getting the ā€˜ingredientsā€™ of ā€˜Franky Mk3ā€™ because, well they just work. [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), I found to be like IS, but without the hellish crash effect. Thatā€™s something Iā€™ve noticed this past month, as it wear off, I start yawning uncontrollably, then, if I sit down, Iā€™m dropping off, lol. Not good when youā€™re on a platform waiting for a train to get you home!! šŸ˜ƒ I keep saying Iā€™m going to get new things, but as the music festival season draws near, I may stick with what I know that works. Either way, Iā€™m going to be making a purchase in the next week - payday, yay!! ---
**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 9:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/119 "2016-07-14T09:16:56Z")
Thatā€™s the order gone inā€¦ Ammo FF22, CTTMV2, IO, IH, P102 12.mcg, P91 12.5mcg (All 2-Goā€™s.), plus, TUTH x2 and IS in 30mlā€™s. I sit and wait now for the DHL shenanigans of paying their import fees. šŸ™„ Iā€™ve not finished testing P102, got the highest 2-Go version as possible before watching the price go in to silly amounts, although the final bill was $240.52(in. P+P). ---
**Author:** ![Night\_Hawk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/3bc359/32.png) [@Night\_Hawk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Night_Hawk)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688/120 "2016-07-16T13:15:06Z")
Hmm. Scratching oneā€™s head knowing not much can be done till Monday, I guess. Can never tell if the order has ever actually gone through, as when you log into the store a/c youā€™re greeted with what youā€™ve ordered in the shopping cart with the ā€˜proceed to payā€™ button down the bottom. Usually I get two emails, (One which Iā€™ve received) stating the order was initialized; and usually, another one (an invoice) right after the payment has gone through Paypal. Not had that 2nd email as yet. ā€˜Orders and trackingā€™ says ā€œNot finished,ā€ hence the curiosity of what has happened, as paypal seemed to run through as normal, with the ā€˜return to merchantā€™ screen at the end of completing the order. Strange. Iā€™ll wait till monday, then itā€™ll be off to zendesk for a query. Hate bothering the AD staff with daft order questions, but itā€™s the not knowing that makes me want to. šŸ™„ [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688.md?page=5) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/night_hawks-pheremone-journal/43688.md?page=7)