# Nigs' Chronicles:Pursuit of Perfection **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [November 14, 2011, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317 "2011-11-14T07:05:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/1 "2011-11-14T07:05:58Z")
**This is where it begins…** The beggining of a story, of an evolution, and accomplishing perfection.I believe every event has a story, and every story has meaning, and every meaning a lesson. How we choose to take those lessons and apply them or ignore them play a vital role in shaping our lives and our personalities. For me personally, I believe there are no standards. You set an ultimate image of what you believe is right and what you want to accomplish no matter how unattainable,foolish, it may seem. That is the ultimate, the final destination. Others will always try to swade you in their way and try to snatch that dream away from you, there will always be obstacles in the way. Let us consider the nature of true greatness in men.People who can catch hold of men’s minds and feelings and inspire them to do things bigger than themselves are the people who are remembered in history. . . . those who stir feelings and imagination and make men struggle toward perfection. The events following are the successess and failures of my journey. No matter how far I rise, or how hard I fall, every detail will be accurately laid out in this journal. In-order to be a resource to others and mainly myself. **Features:** -Caucasian Male -6’2’’ 180lbs(82kgs) -Blonde Hair, Blue eyes -Athletic type body -Sharp features **The Partnership:** My journey and experiences from time to time will be shared by one of my buddies. **Username:** Blazin **Journal:** [Blazin a Trail Through Pheroland](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blazin-a-trail-through-pheroland/53313) Blazin and I will be accurately judging our experiences and I believe that I will be able to give input on his events and he will also be able to input on my events. As long as we are open-minded to all possible options we will grow exponentially faster. Everyone has their own gifts, their own drive, their own focus. This will allow us to hit every angle possible on our journey. **Stash:** IH IS AMMO TUTH\* IO\* \*\ ***Blazin’s** inventory, but can grab if needed. **Structure of Reports** 1. Purpose 2. [Pheromones](https://a314.com/) used - which, how much and where 3. Environment/Location 4. What I was wearing - I think this is important as it could have a large effect on the way others perceive you 5. Self effects 6. Exposure 7. Effects on others 8. Analysis **Conclusion** Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning. ---
**Author:** ![DubJD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dubjd/32/1337_2.png) [@DubJD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DubJD)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 8:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/2 "2011-11-14T08:18:19Z")
Like I mentioned in Blazin’s journal, I really like the idea of this combined effort. I’ll stay in tune for whats to come in both journals. Good luck on the testing! ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2011, 9:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/3 "2011-11-14T21:48:58Z")
I’m intrigued! Great to have you start up a duo journal! 🙂 Now that I’ve officially posted, I’ll be informed of your updates! Cheers and best of luck! ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/4 "2011-11-16T05:39:24Z")
November 13,2011 **Date: November 13, 2011** 1. **Purpose** Pheromone Baptism 2. **Pheromones used - which, how much and where** 3. **Environment/Location** 4. **What I was wearing** Both of us wore standard casual clothing. 5. **Self Effects** - Found the initial smell from the Ammo pretty darn strong, didn’t mind the IH and IS though. - Approximately 15 minutes, while walking around the mall to decrease the scent, I started get lightheaded, but was expecting it. - The IS initially made me laugh more than usual, however, it could of been from the excitement from placing the -mones on. - I found that the IS rather than making me happy it instantly raised my mood, but put me in a state of being content and more focused. We entered the restaurant, the scent was pretty damn strong, this was about 15-20 minutes after spraying on the –mones. I started to get lightheaded at this point.We approached the front desk and were seated. The girl who placed Blazin and I at the booth was clearly interested in Blazin, even after being seated she clearly prolonged the stare in his eyes more than needed, I would say 3-4 seconds longer than usual. She clearly ignored me during the entire process from the front desk to the sitting. She strictly only talked to Blazin. Another waiter passed by approx. 5 minutes after being seated and she was sniffing the air, which I found hilarious, but she must of smelt it because Blazin and I were perfume bottles sitting across from each other. I told Blazin, let’s try to have some fun, so I suggested asking a waitress for her opinion on the cologne. We made up a story of how I made cologne for him and that I thought it was good and Blazin thought it smelt bad and we were wagering a bet to see who was right. So we approached the front desk again, and luckily enough there were 3 girls there. AWESOME! So I did my spiel and asked for their opinion, they looked a little annoyed and resistant but as soon as they smelt the AMMO and IH on his wrist they did a complete 180\* . They all started smiling, joking, and laughing with us. They all stated they LOVED the smell. Damn right you do! LOL! And of course, Blazin was the centre of attention again, damnit Blazin LOL! HAHA still love you bro 😛 Even as we left they were trying to chat us up and joking with us as we left the restaurant. We then walked around the mall, didn’t notice any IOI’s or anything special, so I thought why not go to stores and ask the associates for their help. I made up a story of how I was searching something for my girl, and needed their opinion. The first store was very large, considering it was in a mall, had two floors and escalator connecting the floors. The scents from the new pursues and clothing were very strong. The smell of new leather stained the air. Blazin and I were like there’s no way anyone will smell the Ammo and sure as hell not the IS,IH but decided to try anyway. I approached European women approximately 23-25 years of age. She seemed very intimidated by me and gave me no eye contact what so ever, when Blazin talked to her she quickly initiated his conversation, which I found rather intriguing considering I was shopping and I was the one needing advice , not him. She did give him an IOI but she directed us upstairs. We went upstairs and Blazin initiated this time (using the same story) to an Asian employee in her early 20’s. She handed us off to another Asian employee and she helped us. Did not notice anything out of the ordinary from either. The next store we went to was a lot smaller store, and a lot warmer. We both scoped out the associates and were deciding which one we wanted to try out. She passed by us and we were both like “yes, she’s the one”. We watched her as she was helping out another customer and noted how she responded to compare our experience to her “norm”. I told her my story and during the entire story she was staring in my eyes. I swear she didn’t even blink, haha Blazin backup me up on this 😛, she started showing me sweaters, what was in fashion, what wasn’t, etc. Somehow she ended up on the “sexy” tank tops…which Blazin and I thought was an “interesting” way to approach my question. I joked around with her stating that the tank could be a good idea! I don’t know if she was implying anything or just throwing out a few ideas, but her stare and closeness gave me an impression that she had different intentions. Blazin tried to comment on the some of the clothing but she stared at him just to acknowledge his question and then responded to me. MUCH different than the last store! Next store, a larger, “discount” store, I initiated to two Asian employees in their early 20’s. I was standing close to one, and Blazin was standing behind the other. I explained how my girl looked and that I wanted something to meet her style and looks. One girl commented and said that my girl sounded hot. I laughed and stated, “ I’m not going to lie, she’s damn hot!” Blazin and I laughed and looked at a few jackets and left the store. As we left to look at the jackets, the girl Blazin was next to was watching him walk away and I commented on it to him. The last store we went to was more upscale store than the other ones, it was very crowded and humid. I initiated to a South-west Asian girl in her early 20’s. She was VERY helpful, cheerful and chatty and took us on a long tour of the entire store, picking out several clothes, talking with us and joking around. After about 15 minutes with her, she said for us to take a look and she’ll check up on us after. A few other employees came up to us and tried to help us, seemed like one of them really made an effort to talk with us. After a bit, the original employee returned to talk with us again. At one point she got a good whiff of the [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) on Blazin, and immediately (but for a short while) after she was staring at Blazin a lot while talking. So we eventually left, and amazed that she was so helpful and cheerful around us. **Analysis** -Ammo is excessively strong, I know that on AD it mentions that Ammo has only 10% concentration of the scent compared to commercial lines that have 15-20% but I swear it is as strong, if not stronger than commercial lines. -The –mones worked a lot better in situations that allowed more diffusion, warmer and less competitive smells around. Blazin definitely got a lot more positive reactions than I did. He was wearing a t-shirt probably allowing it to diffuse better while I was wearing a sweater and leather jacket. -Interesting fact, we compared the scent of Ammo and IH on our wrists and Blazin’s was FAR MORE pleasant than mine. I found that mine was excessively “soapy” and stronger, while Blazin’s was a lot smoother, calming, and lot more cologne like. It may have been just our body temperatures as I was extremely hot and Blazin a lot cooler. However, I’m not sure, or maybe just the body chemistry. I might try the different ammo scent on my next order. -The IS initially boosted my mood but somewhat put me into a state of “trance”. If someone were to say something negative about me, it would have rebounded and I wouldn’t of taken it personally. It seems to place me in a state of self-confidence, neutrality, content, and I know what I am. -The –mones seemed to work fairly quickly as long as the target was in the “bubble” or exposure area. ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2011, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/5 "2011-11-16T09:46:00Z")
November 14,2011 **Date: November 14,2011** **Purpose** To be honest,I was _ **supposed** _ to do sweet spot testing,things changed rather quickly. **Pheromones used - which, how much and where** 3xAmmo 1st-\>On right wrist 2nd-\>On back of neck 3rd-\>On upper chest **Environment/Location** 1. Bus-Warm,quite empty on all three buses 2. Train- Also quite empty, heated 3. University Dorm-Heated and small room **What I was wearing** Casual clothing, jeans, sweater, and leather jacket. **Self effects** Initially overwhelmed by the strength of the scent and seems to give me a slight woozieness sensation, and slight headache. Within 30 minutes, the scent is bearable, but clearly present. **Exposure \*\* Anyone sitting approximately 3-5 feet infront of me and/or passed my area within 3-5 feet. \*\* Effects on others** I got on the bus, sat down in the middle, no one was near me. About two stops down a lady in her 40’s, if I had to guess, I’d say 44-45, sits right next to me. I was surprised, people usually don’t sit next to me, even guys will avoid sitting next to me, even if it’s the last seat available. The bus was very empty. I would say about 1/4 of the seats taken, so her choice of seating definitely got my attention, considering she could of had a two seater directly to the right of me, and have enough room to place her jacket and bag on the seat next to her. She was flipping her hair, and constantly trying to get a glimpse of me. I also noticed an Asian girl, early twenties giving lots of IOI’s also, she was infront of me,slightly to the right. I didn’t bother engaging either of them as I was just looking out for IOI’s and different responses. I got to the train station, and as I was going down the steps there were two police officers checking for tickets. I thought I was in deep shit, because I bought the student pass from my friend, and you need student ID to make the pass valid. I went anyway and showed him my pass, he asked which university I went to and I stated it and he let me through. I then walked 10 steps to wait for the train, and noticed that 2-3 other students showed their passes and the same officers that let me through without showing student ID asked them for their student ID’s.😮 They sent them back and told them that their passes weren’t valid without their ID’s. I don’t know if Ammo played any role in this, however, most people are intimidated by me, maybe my attitude and calmness made me sound legitimate,not sure. The train was fairly quiet,mostly males. I noticed a few guys staring at me, I was dressed slightly fancy, hair made up, fancier jeans, expensive sweater, etc. I did notice that the two girls directly to me left were staring at me, and I was watching them through the reflection in the window. They were definitely staring at me, and when I turned to look in their direction, looked away. Nothing noticeable else happened on the train. Now onto my other bus, I have to be honest, I was a little tired and took a nap, but just before I took my snooze the Asian women sitting next to me, early 20’s was giving me major IOI’s and glimpsing. I was pretty tired and didn’t bother initiating and fell asleep (1 hour bus ride) My final bus was filled with seniors. I believe I was the only non-senior there. Didn’t seem to affect them at all. So I call my girl up,I’m here, she opens the door and I start making-out. She stops me and say OMG you smell amazing 😃. Really? You do! I asked her more than this other cologne that she loves, and she said yes! I was impressed.Ammo got her within 5 seconds, I was looking for confirmation from her and was wondering if I had to bring it up, but apparently the 3xAmmo was clearly enough to get her attention and with the desired affect. The day went on pretty smooth and when things escalated I would say, they escalated fairly quickly(considering she was stressing over her tests, etc…) and things progressed from their. I think I’ll spare you the details. But she clearly loved the scent and she was definitely in the mood. I’ve been with her for three years and she has a hard time enjoying life if school is in the way. She was worrying about 2 essays and a test due within the next few days. So her being able to relax, was defintiley a combo with my experiences with her knowing what to do and Ammo definitely helped me break the barrier and a lot more quicker. She definitely had an awesome day after I got ride of her stres 😛 She was having Univ-Grad photos so I joined her. I walked into the room and their were 4 other girls in their waiting. 2 were photographers and 1 was her friend and another waiting in line. I noticed her friend DIHL at me and her tone immediatley stiffened up(A big difference because she is very up-beat and happy all the time). I was thinking the hell is she doing, lol. The girl across the table flipping her hair, both the girl across the table and my girl’s friend were looking for my approval,asking me questions and noting my responses. My girl started noticing and getting a little jealous,I just kissed her right there and said she was the most beautiful. That ended it, the girls were just all staring at me at this point. Her friend got her pictures, I left to grab something, but as I was leaving she was staring at me, the photographer had to get her attention to focus 😉. I came back and my girl was getting ready, she got her photo’s. Then out of the blue, the photographers said to me, do you want some photos with her? I said Hell YA. I was surprised considering everyone gets max 25 shots. They gave us 15 shots together 😮 so total 40 shots and free of charge. I didn’t mind. The rest of the day I spent enjoying myself and my girl. The trip home I was extremly exhausted and didn’t even pay attention to anything. The scent was still lingering but very faintly this would be approximately 12 hours after application. **Analysis** -Women definitely love the smell, I asked if the smell was ‘soapy’ and they all stated it didn’t smell like soap at all. -It seemed to hit a large age group. From 21-45 Range, which is a large traget group. -Definitely helps the process of getting girls attention sexually and slightly physical dominace, which leads them to wanting your approval. -Males seemed to give a slightly bit more respect, just a slight nodding that you’re present. -Will try again when I’m not so exhausted! ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/6 "2011-11-19T20:21:44Z")
November 17,2011 **November 17,2011** **Purpose** Sweet spot testing in work environment **Pheromones used - which, how much and where** 3xAmmo (Tried something different, instead of placing the Ammo on the underside of the wrist, I tried it on the top) 1-\>On Right Top Wrist 2-\>On Left Top Wrist 3-\>Frontal Neck Area **Environment/Location** Work environment-Very crowded and temperature semi-cool, retail type of business. **What I was wearing** Casual Clothing **Self effects** As usual, the 3xAmmo seems overwhelming during the first 15 minutes. \*20 Minutes, smells starts to die down, thought I find the Ammo smell quite soapy like. \*Gives me a slight confidence boost and game on attitude. **Exposure** I would say the exposure varies, for example, when I was going up the escalator and the slight draft blew on the neck area, as I reached the top, one of the employees there commented on how she could smell my cologne all the way up the escalator. \*I think that the upperside of the wrist is less effective for the Ammo, the scent isn’t as strong and seems to “die down” quicker. Though I have to admit it smelt a lot more pleasant, I’m starting to think, the higher body temperature I have the more “soapy” and stronger the Ammo seems to be. \*With the sprays on upperside, for others to get the effects it seems they had to be within my personal “bubble”, even with 3xAmmo. Not so effective, however, I will give it that the building was unusually cool, not allowing it to diffuse as well as it should. **Effects on others** A very interesting day! I recently started a new job,approximately one month ago. I was introduced to all of my colleagues and we all get along except for one. The colleague seemed to ignore me, gave me short sentence responses, and mostly 1 word replys. I approached him expecting the same result, but I shook his hand and initiated. He did a COMPLETE 180. We talked for 45 minutes straight about different events in the store,different projects and events we had going on. I was SURPRISED, he was never this responsive, he even went out of his way to say goodbye when he left…This has to be the Ammo because the only factor that changed was the Ammo. So it seems that the Ammo gives off a sense of respect and social initiation. I found Ammo to be very well rounded in this situation. Later on, one of the female employees approached me and asked how my day was going. I found that also out of the ordinary, she is a weird character. She initiates conversations, and seems to drop out of them at the weirdest times. Though she did approach me 3-4 times throughout the day which is a first. The conversation lasted a little bit longer than usual and seemed to drop out at more acceptable times.At the end of the day she was very friendly, and seemed like she wanted to talk longer,however, I had a lot of things to get done. My favourite employee of the store approached me and we talked as usual. I asked for her opinion on my “cologne” and she said she really liked it and it smelt really masculine. I asked her doesn’t it smelly soapy, and she responded “Soapy,uhhh no”. I think that soapy smell is the actual -mones. Any girl that I’ve talked to or my bud Blazin has talked to has never even mentioned a soapy type of smell. Even when we pointed it out, they still can’t smell it 🙂. The conversation changed more sexual, and it was nothing of doing. I’m guessing the Ammo had a role to play with this, she also has the biggest crush on me ever 😛. The other interesting that I noticed was the response from the Alpha male at work. He has the attitude of “I run the show, all the girls love me,etc…” he is very self absorbed. But I do like him as a person, and I do talk to him quite often asking about his day, etc. With the 3xAmmo he responded in 1 word answers and totally avoided me. He noticed I was talking to one of the other female employees and seemed very agitated. As the day progressed and near the ending of the day,about 10 hrs after Ammo application, he became a lot more friendlier, I am guessing the -none died down and he saw me less of a threat. **Analysis** \*Beta-males respect you more, and definitely get a sense of this guy is incontrol. \*Found Ammo to be very well rounded, helped me initiate conversation, and carry them on quite effectively. \*Alpha males, on higher doses, 7.5mcg(3xAmmo) and higher seem to get aggressive towards me, and because of the environment couldn’t act on it. However, they ignore me and try to show their power through other means. \*Ammo self-effects wise, puts me into a more social vibe, I don’t know if it’s pyschological thinking “I have an edge” or the actual -mones helping me. \*When talking to females and beta-males, Ammo seems to be able to build rapport quickly and make the social settings quite easy to deal with. Seems to make situations a lot easier. \*Soapy smell= -mones? \*DID NOT like the Ammo on top of the wrist. Didn’t seem to have a good exposure, I will be placing it on my underside again and compare the exposure. ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/7 "2011-11-19T20:37:19Z")
November 18,2011 **November 18,2011** Today I didn’t place on any -mones just to see how different others treated me. Conversations where quite rare,but the day was extremly busy. Blazin and I go over our experiences of the day and discuss the different aspects. Blazin seems to be disappointed because the IO doesn’t seem to be working as well as he hoped. No one really seems to be approaching him, though the conversations which he is in tends to be longer when IO is applied. The thing I’m starting to feel is that IO and IH are not stand alone products. This is what I mean, just because someone thinks you’re approachable(IO) and friendly does not give them an adequate reason or even motivation to talk to you. They have to have a reason. For example, sexual attraction, want to know why you DHV, etc… **So this is where my theory comes in.** I believe there are **bases** , you choose one and then **fine tune**. **This is strictly for the commerical line.** **Bases:** [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) IJ IG A314 TUTH **Tuners** : IS IH IO So in my example, you choose a base you want to be, and/or combination of bases. Say I chose TUTH, it’s strictly sexual, but by applying IS,IO it lightens up the in-your-face sexuality and makes you more approachable. When I talked to Blazin about this theory I used the analogy of those old weighted scales. You choose how much you weigh in 50lbs increments. Then by 5 lbs increments Then by 1 lbs increments and so on…until you find you specific weight to precision. So the **Bases** are the 50lbs increments, causing the most effect as you can’t totally cancel out the effect regardless how much of the **Tuners** you place on. And then you fine tune them until you get the desired result. ---
**Author:** ![DubJD](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dubjd/32/1337_2.png) [@DubJD](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DubJD)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 2:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/8 "2011-11-20T02:31:50Z")
> [@Nigs](#): > > This is what I mean, just because someone thinks you’re approachable(IO) and friendly does not give them an adequate reason or even motivation to talk to you. They have to have a reason. For example, sexual attraction, want to know why you DHV, etc… This is the same way I feel. I’ve been trying to see if IO would provide an approachable vibe and would really motivate other people with approaching. In my test runs I try to not initiate or approach and see if IO can get them to but so far I mostly have had to initiate. I’ll have to keep testing to have a real firm awareness of what they do. I like the way you’re now approaching the mones. It does make sense to me. Sometime I’ll try applying mones with that mentality. Good stuff Nigs! ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/9 "2011-11-20T08:09:27Z")
> [@DubJD](#): > > This is the same way I feel. I’ve been trying to see if IO would provide an approachable vibe and would really motivate other people with approaching. In my test runs I try to not initiate or approach and see if IO can get them to but so far I mostly have had to initiate. I’ll have to keep testing to have a real firm awareness of what they do. > > I like the way you’re now approaching the mones. It does make sense to me. Sometime I’ll try applying mones with that mentality. > > Good stuff Nigs! Thanks Dub! My perspective of what -mones do and what they don’t do have changed over the last week. Also I can see why congruency plays a LARGE factor in whether these -mones will work or not. I can’t expect to spray 6xIO and then play my ipod everywhere I go and expect conversations! LOL! But from what Blazin has been telling me, IO seems to do it’s part very subtly and it does show, but it seems mostly that people need a reason to act on what they feel. ---
**Author:** ![lakerman34](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lakerman34/32/1663_2.png) [@lakerman34](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lakerman34)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 5:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/10 "2011-11-21T05:03:19Z")
Can I just ask, where does the handle come from? ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 5:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/11 "2011-11-21T05:42:13Z")
> [@lakerman34](#): > > Can I just ask, where does the handle come from? Hey Laker, it’s been a long day, and your comment seriously confused me:pProbably something obvious that i’m missing! ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 8:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/12 "2011-11-21T08:09:13Z")
November 20,2011 **November 20,2011** **Can you say INTIMIDATION?** \*\*\*Both Blazin and I took part in this, we were side-by-side during this entire trip. * * * Blazin’s side of the story:[Blazin a Trail Through Pheroland](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/blazin-a-trail-through-pheroland/53313) **Purpose** To try out different recommended social mixes in everyday social environments. **Pheromones used - which, how much and where** (1xTUTH)+(3xIO)+(3xIS) We took this recommend mix from Jasmin’s post. This mix was intended for creating Attraction. **This is what she recommended:** **Attraction:** [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or Liquid Sunshine + [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) + small amount of [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) \*The [IO](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or one of the Liquid Sunshine mixes would make people chatty, make 'em feel good \*The Shine will make them feel even better. Increase the energy, and make you seem like one of those people everyone likes to be around. An optimistic, bright breath of fresh air. \*The _small_ amount of [TUTH](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) will let 'em know you’re not just a friend. **This is what we put on:** **1xTUTH** (Decided to do full spray, but was togo bottle so technically 80% of full bottle spray) -\>Rightside of Adam’s Apple **3xIO** -\>Underside Right Wrist -\>Underside Left Wrist -\>Left Side of Adam’s Apple **3xIS** -\>Underside Right Wrist -\>Underside Left Wrist -\>Left Side of Adam’s Apple **Environment/Location** Around the mall, A/C building In a normal family restaurant, for lunch. Heated building. **What I was wearing** Both of us wore standard casual clothing. **Self Effects** I find -none to be very interesting for me.Some days it makes me very aggitated,the smallest things will irritate me, especially at the end of my work day, with the higher doses(7.5mcg+ -none). Some days, it puts me on a game on Alpha-male attitude, and very relaxed and self confident. I’m starting to wonder what could cause the differences. \*Today I felt like an Alpha Male, expressing self-confidence where ever I was going/doing.I meant serious business, and felt pretty congruent with the mix, however, I believe I may have played a different role than I should have with this mix.Explained in analysis. \*The initial sprays didn’t bother me, and as the day progressed I loved the combo’s smell, more and more. **Exposure** Blazin and I were in close contact with ALL our intended targets, within 2-3 feet. Anything outside this area I am not sure was affected. **Effects on others** One word: **INTIMIDATION** Blazin and I sprayed and walked around the mall for about 10 minutes, as usual, to let the -mones “die down”. We then grabbed a bite to eat at the same restuarant as last week we did together. Of course, the same seater had to be there and Blazin walked in, and she checked him out right then and there without any subtly. It was straight out, full obvious check out, made me chuckle. She asked where we wanted to sit, Blazin chose a spot and she left. Though, this time she did look at me too, when she was leaving. We got a female waiter(Thank God, Adam wasn’t there), besides the point,she approached the table and wham! It hit her, it hit her **HARD**!Both of us were alpha males, sexually and strong physical presence males. She did not even look up at us, not ONCE. She seemed really intimidated and rushed. She found about every excuse to leave the table ASAP and came around a few times, and at points approached our table and asked “Is everything ok” while walking by, just stopping quick enough to make it obvious that she was talking to us. We watched as she approached other tables, eye contact with them, prolonged conversations, not with us. A manager talked to the table behind us, for a few minutes asking questions, I wasn’t concerned, he didn’t approach any of the other tables, so he wasn’t singling us out. We left went to the store, and played the same story, asking associates for their advice. I’d explain my girl’s features and wanted a sweater for her to match her looks, and especially those eyes 😛(Right Blazin?All about the eyes biotch 🙂).I talked to her, and she was very nervous, very little, scattered eye contact, could tell she was not comfortable with our presence. Blazin cracked a joke, and immediately, she opened up. Full body response,eye contact and IOI’s.I didn’t think much of it at the time.Followed her around for a bit and then left the store. We decided that, we need to up the Alpha status, and know what we want and what we’re doing, so we refined the story. The next shop, I approached(European Late Teens/Early 20’s), did the same spiel, the girl didn’t seem nervous, or intimidated at all. She stated that my request was out of her hands, she was new there and she directed us to another associate. This associate was Asian female, early 20’s. We know the -mones hit her, I could smell the trail and them clearly on me and Blazin. She responded, but you could hear the nervousness in her voice, she even stated the same answers 3 times, not noticing she did it. I eventually lightened up the atomsphere and made her laugh. And then all of a sudden, she talked normally, she had an open body language, and freely sharing her thoughts. We thanked her, and left the store. And then as we were walking to the next store. I told Blazin, WTF is happening here? He’s like ??? I said,“Every girl that we talked to are intimidated by us, nervous, can’t think straight, etc…the minute we open them up and show we’re friendly, they IMMEDIATELY open up. There is no barrier, it’s like they’re talking to their best friends, giving advice, full body positing, listening, IOI’s…” So we kept that in-mind for the next store. We said that we would not break the tension again until later to see if in-fact this is consistent. We walked into the store but could not find any associates, so I approached the cashier. There were 2 Asian females (Cashier Mid-twenties, and supervisor late 20’s) I approached them, they weren’t helping anyone out and were talking among themselves. I asked for help, the cashier, gave me the most FRIGID LOOK i’ve gotten in a long time!She was completly closed and she reluctantly called for an associate.Blazin and I even commented on it later, WTF WAS THAT? The associate came, we stood in the same spot for a good 2 minutes. The -mones were clearly surrounding the entire area, the associate(Asian Early 20’s) came to us and asked if we needed help. I explained the situation, and she said she would help. But AGAIN, nervous, couldn’t think straight, she said quietly said she needed time to think…She had a few clothing pieces from an earlier customer and she used that as an excuse to get away. She literally heard our situation and ran away, started putting the clothes away, and ignored us. We were so confused, we followed her around the store, putting the clothes away. We both were asked wtf is happening? After 2 minutes she said sorry and that she needed to think about the request.She dragged us around the entire store, showing us things that weren’t even relevant to what I said. Blazin said to me " THIS IS BS!" I was thinking the samething. Another associate came but again she also ran away, instead of helping us and the other associate out, she gave a suggestion and ran away. She did this 3x. So Blazin finally broke the tension and joked with her. And it happened again, she could think striaght, arms became uncrossed and to her sides, body pointing to us, sticking her breasts in our face! And 10 seconds later, she said I KNOW, and walks over to this desk which was 3 feet away from a place she showed earlier and stated " THESE ARE MY FAVOURITE!" and it matched my request. We thanked her and stood at the store for 2 minutes thinking wtf just happened. **Analysis** \*This mix is extremely deadly. Now that I reviewed the day, I have to say that maybe we played too strongly on the Alpha male status, and TUTH side of the mix. The TUTH and Alpha Status created a barrier with all the girls we initiated even though the IS and IO were clearly present. I believe this particuluar mix, was supposed to be A LOT FRIENDLIER. The minute we opened someone up, she instantly relaxed and was comfortable. Full open body language, engaged FULLY into the conversation, IOI’s present in a few women.(The instant change obviously accredited to IS/IO) I also believe that we might have placed too much TUTH, maybe should have done 0.5/0.25 spray would have worked more in favor of a friendly,sexy attraction. The way we placed it with 1xTUTH seems too in-your-face even with the buffering of IO/IS. \*I also starting to believe the Alpha status and TUTH really play on people “fight or flight” mode. Most women seemed intimidated and wanted a way to diffuse situation “flight” and in extreme case causing them to actually ignore/avoid the situation. The cashier who gave me the frigid look, looked and acted like a Alpha Female. This might have triggered an competitive “fight” response. \*I will try this mix again, but applying a friendlier approach and immediate friendly initiation. I believe this mix was created for strictly attraction but where I would use this mix is a question still unanswered. (I believe with the new approach, it could possibly be good for everyday venues) I will try the same mix but again friendlier, and then start to lower TUTH dosage. \*This shows the power of TUTH and Congruency. \*I am truly scared of the power of A314/TUTH combo, like Oasis314 said, you need some serious balls to do it.I fully believe him!🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 7:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/13 "2011-11-28T07:14:26Z")
November 22,2011 **November 22,2011** **Purpose** Sweet Spot testing, finalizing my results. **Pheromones used - which, how much and where** 3xAmmo Regular Strength -\>1x Underside Right Wrist -\>1x Underside Left Wrist -\>1x Adam’s Apple \*\*Environment/Location \*\ ***Transit System** -\>Bus, warm, humid, and PACKED -\>Rail System, warm, and approximately 75% full. \*\*Work Environment -\>\*\*Large spaced out retail store, three levels, escalators connecting all levels. Fairly cool, I would say warm enough not to wear a jacket indoor, but cool enough you could consider it, just on the border. **What I was wearing** Standard casual clothing **Self Effects** Ammo was not overbearing as it usually is, the initial 15 minutes were strong,but bearable \*Felt great, I got a sense of calmness,in-control,and easily approachable. **Exposure** The exposure range was fairly strong today, I will explain later, however, anyone 5-7 feet from me got affected. \*Trail was VERY OBVIOUS, and lingered for approximately 30 seconds. **Effects on others** If I had to sum it up I would say 😮. Let’s start from the very beginning… I was feeling unusually great, you know, some days you look in the mirror and you’re thinking damn right, and other days, you look and think wtf happened…I was having one of those “Damn I look good days 😛”. The Ammo made me cocky as hell. I usually get a few IOI’s on the bus regardless if i’m wearing -mones or not, but I had a feeling that I was going to dominate the day especailly with the Ammo… I got onto the bus, stood near the back door, as it was crowded, NO ONE acknowledge me, no one even stared in my direction. I thought that was extremely weird. I went next to a few girls, they just looked down and ignored me. I thought, maybe it’s too early for this… The train was another big disappointment… Nothing…All I got was a few odd looks, especially from women, and it wasn’t the kind you could mistake for and IOI, no, it was the full who the hell do you think you are look.😕 At this point, I’m thinking, what the hell is going on here… I mean come on… I’m sexy as hell(Ammo speaking HAHA)+I have Ammo on+I got an awesome attitude(Ammo yet again)=Should be total success… **DOMINATION!** I then decided that maybe the Ammo was too strong at the moment, especially for 8 AM, but I’ve done it before and nothing like this. FOR SURE work will be great, the girls love me there. So I entered work, and I knew something was WRONG. Wherever I stood, the **ENTIRE** area cleared out maximum 15 seconds. Anywhere I went, everyone left. Conversations were EXTREMELY hard to come by, and if I did, lets say they were short and abrupt. This went on for the majority of the day, and then it hit me. **I OD’ED** I’ve been cycling the days, one day with -mones,and the other day off. The days off, I noticed that the Ammo smell was clearly present on my skin because the scent and maybe even the -mones were absorbed into my jacket sleeves and rubbing off the next day. And the other day with Blazin, I had placed on TUTH and a small amount had also fallen onto my jacket…So the collection of -none got to the point where I experienced an OD. I’m definitely saying I OD’ED, I’m not sure if this is a characteristic of ODing, but if I have to guess…this is it! I had no deep conversations, they were hard to come by, everyone avoided me, the areas I were in cleared out and FAST. I found it rather amusing, and it was a great experience. **Analysis** \*Definitely have to watch those -none products and the -none build up on my clothing. ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 7:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/14 "2011-11-28T07:38:02Z")
Since I experienced OD the other day, I decided to tone it down and review my results. I had a question lingering in my head for quite some time…Sweet spot testing… And then, I finally decided to put it into writing… Steve’s post on sweet spot testing [How to find your sweet spot… - PheroTalk Pheromone Research Forum](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-find-your-sweet-spot/22146/1), sounded like an awesome way to do it,very straight forward,and very simple. I tried it out, but I got different results, almost everyday. My job, I rotate between three stores,the staff and environment are quite different. It hit me, Steve’s post was a simplified version, he did it not to overwhelm the newcomers. When I review all the experienced user’s journal and posts (Steve,1Alpha,Oasis314,P51 Mustang) they actually considered different environments, different temperatures, different crowds, etc… I understand sweet spot testing is supposed to be fairly simple, and it is, however, I always seem to complicate things. From my two week journey with - [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) I have found that there seems to be more at play here: \*Application points \*Environment \*Congruency I find that in situations with identical crowds that the environment can totally throw off the “sweet spot”. For example, my MD(Maximum Dosage) for [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is 3 sprays. Anything over that I become ghosted. For environments that are larger, and cooler, 3xAmmo is my sweet spot. However, for more humid/hotter smaller areas anything over 2XAmmo seems to ghost me… What i’m trying to get at is that I personally believe that different evironments and application points have different sweet spots. Because if one day I decided to spray 3xAmmo -\>Right side underwrist -\>Left side underwrist -\>One adam’s apple The diffusion is completly different then say if I sprayed -\>2xAmmo on adam’s apple -\>1xAmmo on underside wrist and spread to other wrist And then changing my exposure and who is getting affected by my - [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/) … So in my theory it would be: 1)Type of affect wanted ie. (Sexual, physical dominance, friendliness, etc…) 2)Type of Interaction (1on1/small group/crowd) 3)Type of Environment(Big/Small/Humid/Dry,etc…) 4)Application points And then so on, for larger environments, for warm closed etc… \*So you initially decide the affect you want others to feel around you. That’s the base of your decision, what kind of presence and/or vibe do I want my selected group/person to feel. \*Then you adjust for the general audience, am I having a 1 on 1, small businesss meeting, or large crowd? \*Then move on to environment factors…How will the area I will be in diffuse my -mones, and what exposure and strength do I want to give off? \*Taking into consideration the last 2 points, I place my -mones in areas that create the diffusion,and exposure I want. Affect wanted= Choice of -mones Type of Interaction= Choice of -mones+Dosage Environment=Dosage Application Points=Dosage+tactical planning All of the above combined= **SUCCESS** ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/15 "2011-11-28T18:53:16Z")
Love your post above, nigs! Like the way you’re considering that the ‘sweet spot’ is relative! 🙂 Your sweet spot can be 1x to 5x spray… 😛 With a big depends diaper in the mix… Oh, and your ‘handle’, nigs, is what lakerman was asking about… handle = appellation, alias, label… 😃 Keep dem reports coming… ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/16 "2011-11-28T19:39:34Z")
> [@lakerman34](#): > > Can I just ask, where does the handle come from? HAHA the name:Nigs… Well my buddy’s username is Blazin, that’s my actual name, and I always call him Nigs as a joke. So I stole his name, and he stole my name. ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/17 "2011-11-30T04:51:27Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > Love your post above, nigs! Like the way you’re considering that the ‘sweet spot’ is relative! 🙂 Your sweet spot can be 1x to 5x spray… 😛 With a big depends diaper in the mix… > > Oh, and your ‘handle’, nigs, is what lakerman was asking about… handle = appellation, alias, label… > > 😃 > > Keep dem reports coming… Thanks for the encouragment Alpha! When I started using -mones I thought it really was easy. Just basic things, the more I use them, the more questions, and hypothetical theories I come up with. It’s going to be a long journey and one hell of a ride! BTW THANK YOU for explaning what “handle” was…:o ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 7:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/18 "2011-11-30T07:02:48Z")
November 28/29 **November 28/29** **Purpose** Trying out the killer mix Ammo+IS **Pheromones used - which, how much and where** I have to admit, I went overboard these two days… \*\* November 28 3xAmmo 4xIS -\>Underside Right Wrist -\>Underside Left Wrist -\>Adam’s Apple -\>2x Adam’s Apple -\>Back of neck -\>One spray on underside wrist and rubbed onto other November 29 3xAmmo 4xIS -\>One spray underside one wrist and rubbed onto other wrist -\>2xAdam’s Apple -\>Hair -\>Adam’s Apple -\>Underside Left Wrist -\>Underside Right Wrist \*\*\*\*Environment/Location November 28 \*\*\*\*-\>Transit Bus, humid, warm, packed -\>Transit Train, cooler, cart about 50% full -\>Large retail store, quite cool(Cold enough to wear a jacket, but I did not) 3 Floors, escalators connecting all parts November 29 -\>Retail Store within mall, fairly cool, slightly cooler than the retail store on Nov.28 \*\*\*\*What I was wearing \*\*Casual Clothing **Self Effects** I can say that I have actually grown accustom to the strength of Ammo, it doesn’t affect me negatively at all, previously I got lightheaded within initial 15 minutes of spray. \*IS always make me confident, slightly sexy, optimistic, and FOCUSED. \*The two combined, gave me a great feeling. Felt like I was portraying an Alpha image, someone who was comfortable with himself, gives of a slight sexy vibe, the combination gets me focused onto what I have to do, sort of places me into a “state of trance”. \*I have to be careful though, this “state of trance” really makes me unapproachable. I’m in my own world. **Exposure** I really would like to comment on this,however, I didn’t expect the results that were given, I will explain below. **Effects on others** I was extremly reluctant on posting this journal for many reasons, but the biggest reason being, I failed.But I want to be honest, like I initially said on the beginning of this journal. You might be asking yourself, “Why did Nigs combine two days together?”. Simple, I got no IOI’s, no reactions out of the ordinary. The days were extremely disappointing. And for the people who just started using the -mones I have to say that it was me. The last couple of days I was in my own world, I know people found me very unapproachable and I didn’t bother doing my part. The thing is, -mones aren’t magic, they give you that edge that you need to stand apart, to be the one that shines in that meeting, the one whose is different in the crowd. But you can’t expect the -mones to do all the work. -mones make those days where you’re fully congruent a day that you won’t forget, and those days where you’re not 100% in the meeting but putting effort in bump you up, just that little bit to make you reach 100%. If I had an example for -mones I would have to say it’s like the game of Blackjack. All the casino needs to win over the long run is that 0.5% above the average player. I strongly believe that’s all you need to stand apart from the crowd. That little something everyone wants part of, that 0.5%.Don’t get me wrong, I believe that we have to strive to be what we see in our minds, -mones help us get there. Congruency is a MAJOR FACTOR in all of this. Blazin and I were discussing the importance of congruency, I honestly can’t expect to spray 10xIO and be in my own world, listening to IPOD, and expecting someone to approach me. This was definitely a good lesson, that if you don’t put effort into playing your part, -mones won’t have any effect. 1Alpha made an AWESOME post on the factors of congruency/others mindset/etc… here is the link: > [@Starting out with 'mones: Takin' it nice and slow... NOT!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/starting-out-with-mones-takin-it-nice-and-slow-not/42340): > > I have not had any previous ‘exposure’ (pun intended!!!) to [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) prior to the last few days, last days of Sept, starting out October and have been glued to this forum when I have had a chance! I want to document my usage on this thread. I have been pondering pheromones and my exposure to them in the past. I have thought of instances when I have been influenced by men and women and find some of them were likely mones supported. As an example, a couple of months ago I met a young man in … Topic name:**Personal Thoughts on Mones… 1Alpha’s ramblings! Posted on November 14,2011,Page 25** \*\* * * * \*\* ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/19 "2011-11-30T07:08:07Z")
It just hammers the point home of congruency and the expectations of mones when you live through it yourself. I still need to be slapped upside the head with this sometimes…🙂 I posted on my journal about congruency and the attitudes and mindsets of others that can handicap a mone effect… Glad you did spell it out!!! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Nigs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nigs/32/2155_2.png) [@Nigs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nigs)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2011, 7:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317/20 "2011-11-30T07:16:36Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > It just hammers the point home of congruency and the expectations of mones when you live through it yourself. I still need to be slapped upside the head with this sometimes…🙂 > > I posted on my journal about congruency and the attitudes and mindsets of others that can handicap a mone effect… > > Glad you did spell it out!!! 😃 Thanks Alpha, I will definitely review your journal! Love to read up on that, I never thought about the mindset of others, and this is why I love this community! It sheds light on every angle possible, there are so many things to learn, I honestly feel like I take step in the dark and light it up, but look ahead and it’s all darkness. -mones is going to be a great journey, glad everyone is so willing to share there experiences! Thanks Alpha!😃 [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nigs-chronicles-pursuit-of-perfection/53317.md?page=2)