# Ninety Degrees to Normal - The Tangent files. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Journals\ **Created:** [February 22, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379 "2009-02-22T15:12:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/21 "2009-04-18T15:31:59Z")
Well folks it’s been a while again but I’ve been a busy boy. The major thing that’s happened since last we met is that things have gone way south (and not in the good way) with M. It seems that she’s seeing someone else. This has meant that I’ve been spending most of my time in a bit of a funk lately and haven’t been my usual cheery self. However today I decided that life is too short and I needed to get my arse in gear and get back out there. To that intent I’m out with a buddy tonight for some beers and some leering. I intend to talk to any and all women that cross my path and I’m not discriminating. If interest is shown THEN I’m discriminating but not until then. Now I popped into town this morning to grab a few bits I needed and, kind of following on from Oooohyaah’s (not sure of the number of vowels in that) advice I thought I’d try a little combo which sounded kind of interesting. Ooohyah! suggested a mix of mx292, IG, IJ and p83 which had me intrigued, however I only have minute ammounts of mx292 and IG left so I couldn’t try this out this mornign and last night. However I decide to analyse other possibilities and came up with this, 3 drops a314 dropped on wrist and spread with fingers to neck pulse points, the remainder rubbed between both wrists and down forearms. 1 spray TUTH rubbed between forearms 1 spray Ammo over TUTH 1 spray of p83 over Ammo (after dry down) (this part of the combo I thought might give the respect vibe that goes with 292 as well as giving that large but well buffered None kick.) 1 half spray of TUTH to underside of chin Two sprays CTTM2 to neck Two sprays shine to neck/beard. (this part I thought might go someway to mimicking IG with the respect of A314 softened with the CTTM2 and shine.) 1 spray IJ to chest Now I know this doesn’t come close to the right ingredients but I hoped for a smililar if not identical effect. I wasn’t disappointed. The self effects were amazing. Despite having TUTH under my chin I felt none of the horndog self effects I’ve sometimes got with this and my psture was great. My shoulders were so far back I thought my back might break. It also had a noticable effect on others. One girl who was sat at a table near mine in the coffee shop I visited just couldn’t stop turning her head to look at me and eventually sat almost side on to the others at her table she wasn’t that great looking and had a wedding ring on so no game to play there but definite ioi’s. I also got a number of double takes and one broad smile from a girl I held eye contact with. Sadly she left with her mum moments later. People also seemed to forget about personal space to an extent. In a bookshop one of the girls refilling the shelves nearly sat on my lap as she was going about her business and went very red as she apologised. I think I’m going to give this a try tonight and see how it works in a bar environment. I think it could be fun. ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/22 "2009-04-18T16:09:27Z")
lol nice … almost sat on your lap… HIT…oh my goodness… you sunk my copy of pride and prejudice… LOL ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/23 "2009-04-26T14:40:51Z")
This week I have entered into a little experiment; I’m not entirely sure of the results as yet but as it’s posting day I thought I’d keep you all in the loop. I’ve been wearing the TUTH/Ammo layering (one spray each on forearms) fairly regularly now. It seems to give outstanding results at work, especially when paired with a shot of Jerk (Which I’m loving more and more despite initial reservations) and a little p83, with increased flirtyness from the flirty girl I sit next to and other people generally seeming more open and more likely to laugh at my admitedly feeble jokes. The banter in the team I work with has gone through the roof, and this effect seems to last and last. “But what about the experiment?” I hear you cry. Well this may not have been the best use of my arsenal but because I was going out into the historic city of York with some friends for a bit of all day drinking I decided that I wanted the effects of the mix I detailed above but didn’t really want to carry around too many Togos as it promised to be a nice day and I thought I might be jacketless. So I decided to try myself a little alchemy and, after washing out an empty Togo (it had had shine in it) I added a third TUTH, a third Ammo and filled the rest upo with roughly equal measures of Jerk and p83. I then shook the bottle thoroughly nd left it in the bathroom overnight. The intial effect were fairly disappointing. I first tested this mix on Wednesday at work and the office was noticebly more subdues than it had been. Wether this was just a coincidence, a reaction to a change in signature or an O’D I’m not entirey sure but it was a definite, noticible change. I was wearing one spray to the forearms and refreshed at lunchtime (approx 4 hours later) with another spray. Upon getting home and reflecting I topped up the space that had been vacated by the sprays with a litltle more p83 and, come thursday, tried the mix at 2 sprays with a little shine appleied to the beard line. This seemed much better but still not up to the standard of solo layering. Nevertheless I decide to bite the bullet and take this togo out with me on Friday. I did however apply the seperate layerings before setting off as well as one shot of the mix to the underside of my chin. The day passed without too much incident, mainly due to a lack of targets. One barmaid did approach me whilst I was looking for the juke box in a particular pub to see what I was looking for but nothing too out of line that would be worth reporting on. Come late afternoon (many Jd & cokes later) I went for a refresh. One more spray of the mix went to the forearms and one more to the underside of the chin. Again nothing special seemed to occur. I can’t say I ghosted but I can’t say they were ripping my clothes of either. This changed a little later when I got talking to a couple of ladies in one bar. One of these ladies was simply stunning although the glint of a diamond on the third finger of her left hand slightly tempered this. Her friend was also very attractive however and soon all three of us were enjoying a nice conversation (mainly about old T.V shows which the target lady remembered but her younger engaged friend didn’t). After a while the younger girl got a text message from her fiance and had to leave to take him some money. At this point I thought that it was game over but, amazingly, although her friend was going and although that left her with a group of increasingy rowdy drunken blokes her friend elected to stay! hmmm. To cut a long story shor t we spent the rest of the night chatting and I got her number and a litltle kiss (nothing too passionate mind you, just a small kiss). She sent me a text on her way home saying how much she enjoyed herself and to “let me know what your up to” I replied in kind the next day and am currenlty waiting to see what happens from here. My initial thoughts are that this little bottle might be very useful, however I think it might need up to three sprays to kick in despite the high none content. I also think that giving it time to settle down after application is important. The experiment continues! ---
**Author:** ![LeafStamp](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leafstamp/32/376_2.png) [@LeafStamp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/LeafStamp)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 2:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/24 "2009-04-26T14:52:13Z")
I enjoyed reading this journal. I could hear your accent coming through in the way you were writing. I thought it sounded very Yorkshire-y, then looked to the left. It would be weird to hear everyone on the forums’ actual voice and accent. I’d imagine Steve is one of the only people in that position. Keep it up 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/25 "2009-04-26T16:18:40Z")
> [@LeafStamp](#): > > I enjoyed reading this journal. I could hear your accent coming through in the way you were writing. I thought it sounded very Yorkshire-y, then looked to the left. > > It would be weird to hear everyone on the forums’ actual voice and accent. I’d imagine Steve is one of the only people in that position. > > Keep it up 😃 Aye lad, tha knows. Never talked to Steve actually although I have put Mikaelia through the horror of trying to decypher my flat vowels and strong accent. That was a very interesting conversation. Nice to know you enjoy the random ramblings Sithee! ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/26 "2009-04-26T20:55:04Z")
> [@tangent](#): > > …I’ve been wearing the TUTH/Ammo layering (one spray each on forearms) fairly regularly now. It seems to give outstanding results at work, especially when paired with a shot of Jerk (Which I’m loving more and more despite initial reservations) and a little p83, … > > So I decided to try myself a little alchemy and, after washing out an empty Togo (it had had shine in it) I added a third TUTH, a third Ammo and filled the rest upo with roughly equal measures of Jerk and p83. I then shook the bottle thoroughly nd left it in the bathroom overnight. > > The intial effect were fairly disappointing. I first tested this mix on Wednesday at work and the office was noticebly more subdues than it had been. Wether this was just a coincidence, a reaction to a change in signature or an O’D I’m not entirey sure but it was a definite, noticible change. I was wearing one spray to the forearms and refreshed at lunchtime (approx 4 hours later) with another spray. > … When you mix in this manner the concentration of each component is diluted. In this case, if you want to recreate the dose you got from 1 spray each of tuth, ammo, ij, p83, you would have to give yourself 4 sprays from a to go containing equal amounts of the components. In your experiment with the to-go you were running about 1/4 strength of what you had used before. ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2009, 9:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/27 "2009-04-26T21:00:27Z")
Ah thanks for the info GWTW. I’d assumed (yes i know what that does) that with the levels of none in TUTH, Jerk and Ammo it might be safer to start with low dosages. I’ll definitely look to ramp this up next time. Thanks again ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/28 "2009-05-03T16:45:05Z")
It’s been a good week guys n gals, a very good week. In my time I’ve messed around with a couple of internet dating sites. I’ve never really done much with them to be honest other than post a profile and say hello to a couple of ladies (one trouble I find with them is deciding on disclosure regarding the wheelchair. It’s a tricky old decision.) One thing I’d not really considered though was the magic of Facebook. Turns out that, after raiding my friends profiles to see what apps they had, there’s an app called ‘are you interested’ It’s similar to internet dating sites but instead of having to send pms or emails or whatever you can just click ‘yes’ on a picture and take it from there. You can also send daft little gifts. To cut a long story short one lady clicked yes on me and, after a little to-ing an fro-ing we arranged to meet up this wednesday on what was essentially a blind date. For this occasion I went for 1 drop a314, 2 sprays Ammo covered with 2 sprays p83, all to the arms and 2 sprays cttm2 to the neck covered with 1 honesty and a shot of IFM to the back of the neck. I also added an extra honesty to the back of my hands. The night went well after a little initial awkwardness and she ended up giving me a lift home (as she was driving and I wasn’t) she had said that she wanted to take things slow but we still ended the night with a little kissy in the car and a hug that seemed to last forever (second time I’ve noticed that whilst wearing none and p83, once contact is made ladies seem reluctant to let go.) We arranged to meet up again last night when I took her to the cinema (Xmen origins: Wolverine. Not bad, not great.) I wore a similar mix but with the addition of a single shot of jerk and a single shot of TUTH to the chest, and after the film I offered her the option of a drink back at mine. I’ll draw a veil over the following sequence of event except to say that I dropped her back home this morning. I don’t think she’s the future mrs Tangent but for now it’s all good. On a side note I’m currently reading a book on NLP which I’m finding to be very interesting. It’s early days yet but I can see some of the exersises being of definite benefit to me Until next time… ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2009, 3:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/29 "2009-05-04T03:22:31Z")
Glad you’re doing so well. Stay true to yourself. ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2009, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/30 "2009-10-16T19:27:52Z")
Well hello there my friends. Not been round here for ages due to a few personal circumstances and a stay in hospital but now I have returned. Nothing much to report sadly as the opportunities have not really presented themselves to get out there and let the magic happen but hopefully, with the festive period fast approaching, this is now my time (bwahahahaha!) Had a look in the store but it seems that everything I’m interested in seems to be out of stock which means it’s back to the tried and tested for now (yup the old 2-1-1 mix of ammo, Tuth and p83 are gonna get an airing.) but hopefully I’ll be able to start pushing the envelope a little bit pretty soon. Anyways just a little post for now to let you all know I aintn’t dead.😃 ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2009, 2:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/31 "2009-10-18T14:17:30Z")
Hello again. Having a quiet weekend in due to a lack of fundage (it’s payday next weekend) but thought I’d pop my head round the door to see if my target products are in stock yet (unfortunately not). I have however had something delivered in a little bottle which may be worth commenting on. I’ve shelled out a little money on some scent samples and amongst these were two that I’ve seen mentioned round here and which have blown me away. Namely these are Green Irish Tweed by Creed which is heavenly and Monk by Michael Storer which I’m wearing now. Thought it was a bit strong initially but it’s dried down now and I seriously cannot stop sniffing myself. Think I’m gonna have to get myself a bottle of this stuff. Wow! ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/32 "2009-10-27T20:10:34Z")
Hello again mon freres and girl freres. Well I went and did it. Got myself a full bottle of monk from the androtics store and, as they were doing a ‘buy one get one half price’ type deal, I got a bottle of Winter Star too. For some reason though I simply can’t go on that site without investing in a few mones so, what to get? I’m fairly well stocked on most of the instant line and most of my other most wanteds seem to be ot of stock so, after a little thought, I decided to plump for a bottle of Spaceland to see if I couldn’t put a little fun in my fun. Now as I’m an eight year old trapped in the body of a thirty-five year old I couldn’t resist opening that annoyingly hard to open yellow package as soon as I got my hands on it (This lunch time.) and giving myself a little spritz. So there I am sat in my car outside dhl and I’ve got to say that my first impression of this stuff was the smell. Yuck. Not ever really been one for drugs myself so I don’t know about it smelling like weed. I’d say there is a definite odour of damp, weedy, slightly rotting grass though which is entirely unpleasant (luckily I had a couple of bottles of scent to hand 🙂) I drove back to work keeping a watchful eye on myself and wondering if spraying before driving was wise (even though it’s only 2 mins away). I felt just slightly wooly headed I’d say but made it back to work without incident. Having reached the office I found that the afternoon went rather well. I felt relaxed and my spirits (which have taken a battering lately) rose slightly but noticibly although my attention did wonder from time to time. There did seem to be an air of slight silliness in the office for the rest of the afternoon as well as a comfortableness. By that I mean that everybody just seemd that extra bit easy in their dealings with each other. Not that it suddenly turned into a love in or anything but, occasionally there has been a little bit of an atmosphere in our department and this afternoon there just… wasn’t. I’m not sure that this is one for the workplace long time though as, although the afternoon flew by and I fund myself able to fling myself into my work, it does seem to take the edge off my concentration. Maybe in small amounts on the back of the hands so it’s less self impactful but not directly under my own nose again. I added another two shots upon getting home (Five and a half hours later.) and again I’m getting that sense of calm coupled with that slight lack of focus. I find myself in the middle of this typing and pausing while I look off to the side; I’m aware of the television but I don’t feel any real compunction to watch it. What should be a distraction isn’t and what shouldn’t be is. Bit wierd really. I also think there’s something visual going on an enhnacement like everythings gone hd but with a slight soft focus. Obviously I need to play with this more and I think it would be better with something to provide a little direction but, smell aside, I’m liking this one. ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/33 "2009-10-29T18:37:18Z")
Hey folks Still playing around with Spaceland. Yesterday I wore two shots to the wrists (one to each), covered with Winter Star. Now I went for the wrist placement to try and minimise the self effects and maximise the effects for those around me. However I’m not sure it quite worked out. I still felt a little muddle headed and lacked a little concentration although the calmness and good mood were still evident. The mood in the office was also nice and buoyant, which in our office is a feat in itself. The girl who sits next to me seemed particularly keen to share information about her relationship, which is not something that happens often, even though we get along well. The office atmosphere did deteriorate noticably in the afternoon and by the end of the day the usual complaining and negativity had crept in. Interesting. Today I decided to go with my hunch of giving the Spaceland a little direction. I duplicated the two sprays (Back of the hands this time and covered with Monk which I think covers this better.) but added a single spray of Ammo x2 to the throat. My thoughts were that the Spaceland would continue to engender the chatty, positive air in the office whist the Ammo should help to give me back a little sharpness as well as help to provide direction to the spaceland. It proved to be a very interesting combo. Once again the playful positive vibes seemed to be present, one guy in particular turned up late with a scowl on his face but was soon cracking jokes with the rest of us. What also seemed to there though was a focus on me. I found more people initiating conversation with me, More people dawdling by my desk. One girl in particular, who is nice enough but quiet, initiated conversation with me on a couple of occasions and all in all it felt like I was the man. It would be interesting what in the ammo was providing this extra push, I suspect it might be the Mone, but whatever it is I like it. I think this would be a very intersting combo to wear out. Until next time. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/34 "2009-10-29T19:47:40Z")
> [@tangent](#): > > Hey folks > > Still playing around with Spaceland. Yesterday I wore two shots to the wrists (one to each), covered with Winter Star. Now I went for the wrist placement to try and minimise the self effects and maximise the effects for those around me. However I’m not sure it quite worked out. I still felt a little muddle headed and lacked a little concentration although the calmness and good mood were still evident. The mood in the office was also nice and buoyant, which in our office is a feat in itself. The girl who sits next to me seemed particularly keen to share information about her relationship, which is not something that happens often, even though we get along well. The office atmosphere did deteriorate noticably in the afternoon and by the end of the day the usual complaining and negativity had crept in. Interesting. > > Today I decided to go with my hunch of giving the Spaceland a little direction. I duplicated the two sprays (Back of the hands this time and covered with Monk which I think covers this better.) but added a single spray of Ammo x2 to the throat. My thoughts were that the Spaceland would continue to engender the chatty, positive air in the office whist the Ammo should help to give me back a little sharpness as well as help to provide direction to the spaceland. It proved to be a very interesting combo. Once again the playful positive vibes seemed to be present, one guy in particular turned up late with a scowl on his face but was soon cracking jokes with the rest of us. What also seemed to there though was a focus on me. I found more people initiating conversation with me, More people dawdling by my desk. One girl in particular, who is nice enough but quiet, initiated conversation with me on a couple of occasions and all in all it felt like I was the man. It would be interesting what in the ammo was providing this extra push, I suspect it might be the Mone, but whatever it is I like it. I think this would be a very intersting combo to wear out. > > Until next time. Very cool! 🙂 The only way that I can wear Spaceland where it doesn’t totally space me out (go figure) is the back of my head. I still get some self effects but not nearly as badly as anywhere else. It also has the added benefit of hitting everyone around me extra strongly. ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/35 "2009-10-29T20:00:22Z")
Interesting idea. Thanks Snoopy. Might be a good place to get away from the smell too. Although I’ve found Monk does cover it very well indeed. Should have mentioned one more thing actually. Going on info in a thread I’m too lazy to look up, I’ve found a shot before bedtime makes me sleep like a baby. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/36 "2009-10-29T20:12:05Z")
> [@tangent](#): > > Interesting idea. Thanks Snoopy. Might be a good place to get away from the smell too. Although I’ve found Monk does cover it very well indeed. > > Should have mentioned one more thing actually. Going on info in a thread I’m too lazy to look up, I’ve found a shot before bedtime makes me sleep like a baby. I’ve found the same thing. I use it as a sleep aid every once in a while. Works great and it isn’t doing anything long term (that I can tell) that pill can. ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/37 "2009-11-04T19:26:35Z")
So, I’ve been keeping up the testing on the ol’ spaceland. I have to say the more I wear it the more I’m loving it. I actually wnet out on Friday night and decided on a couple of sprays shared between the back of the hands and one to the back of the neck (as Snoopace suggested). I went with two shots of ammox2 too to add a little sexy to the mix. Sadly I think most of the mix was actually wasted as it was a bonfire (In honour of Mr Fawkes) that I was attending and the mones seemed to be eaten by the smoke and the cool October air. It was a good night though with plenty of red wine flowing so I’ve no real complaints. I think it would have been more telling indoors with a more captive audience. I waited until Tuesday to test again, as I do like to have a couple of days off now and then to let the baseline reassert itself. This time I went with my by mow traditional 2 sprays of Spaceland coupled (arms) with two IG (Collarbone). Strangely this seemed not to have the same effect as the previous week as the office still seemd quite subdued and moody. Now there is a lot going on at work at the moment and a lot of atmosphere, upset and general pissed off-ness going around but the previous week’s trial of Spaceland had noticebly lightened things (in the morning anyway.) This time there seemed to be a lasting pall over the team for the entire day. I’m going to have to give this a go again at some point to see if it was the combo or the atmosphere assetrting itself over and above any pheromonal effects that was to blame. I’ll certainly give it a go when things have lightened a bit to see what happens. I’m thinking of keeping a lid on the spaceland for the rest of the week and maybe letting it lose on Saturday when I have a college reunion to attend. I have a little togo of an mx that I promised to test that I may turn to in the meantime although, in all honesty it might just be a waste of mones at work right now. ---
**Author:** ![tangent](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tangent/32/5178_2.png) [@tangent](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tangent)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/38 "2009-11-06T20:17:47Z")
We have nice little custom over here in the U.K. Every year upon the 5th of November we commemerate the attempted blowing up of the government and the entire political headquarters of the country some 400 years ago, by burning big piles of wood and letting off lots of fireworks. This Bonfire night saw yours truly accompanying a couple of female friends to a local hostelry, there to enjoy said pyrotechnics with a little alcohol. I of course saw this as an ideal chance to break out the arsenal and carry on experimenting with the ol’ Spaceland The mix went like this. Four sprays of Spaceland, two on the back of the hands, two on the back of the wrists; one spray ammox2 on addams apple; two sprays of IG to sides of neck and within ten minutes or so I felt realy good, relaxed but controlled with a nice confident feeling. So female friend A picks me up at about 8pm. After a few minutes in thecar I realise that i’m talking a lot… A lot. It doesn’t seem to be bothering my friend however and in fact we’re both having a right old natter which lasts until we get to the pub. Now having decanted from the car, we found the pub to be packed to the rafters, which is not an ideal situation for a wheelchair user and I did indeed find myself backed into a corner constantly getting in people way. However. Whist in this position I noticed that a woman, who had obviously got there a lot earlier and therefore secured a nearby table. was shooting me repeated looks whilst talking to the man opposite her. I even noticed that the foot of the leg she had crossed over the other was pointing directl towards me even though it was unnatural to do so. I’m interpretting this as me getting her attention and therefore a hit. The next hour passed without much incident. Myy other female friend arrived and the three of us fell into a good if cramped conversation before heading out to view the fireworks display (which was trult, truly awsome and must have cost a fortune.)The crowds startd to thin a little after this, what with the main attraction of the night having passed and I found a little more room to manouvre. There were two further events that I’m classing in the hit column from the night. The first was a young lass, perhaps borderline too young to be there legally, who, whilst waiting for the lads she was with was texting something to someone. She chose to stand almost on top of me to do this even though there was room to do this. I think as she was concentrating so much on the texting it was an entirely unconcious positioning but it was a little closer than was necessary in the circumstances. The second was when I met a girl I used to go to college with. We never had all that close a relationship whist there but once we spotted each other we soon fell into chatting and both she and the girl she wa with (who I’d not previously met) seemed to want me to stay around, even though they both knew I was with my friends. This went to the extent of the girl I went to college with seeing I was empty on the drinks front and offering to buy me one. overall I would say that this mix was a good general one for a night out without being too blatant or overbearing. The Spaceland added a chattiness which was evident in my friends and I think (and this has only struck me now) a desire for people to get me to stay closer (on one occasion one of my friends complained she was stuck behind me, it wasn’t stopping us talking but she seemed to want all my attention.) I think the addition of the IG added that little touch of smoothness and I certainly felt more in contol than on other occasions I’ve worn Spaceland. Ammox2 of course gives the mix that subtle sexiness. I’d be interested to see how adding perhaps one more shot of Ammo works out. TTFN. ---
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Today being Saturday it was time for my usual Jaunt into town to meet up with a buddy for a coffee and a wander around this fair city. It was also an ideal chance to take a break from the Spaceland testing and have a look at the little Togo that I recieved. This little bottle turns out to be and MX, namely MX327. Here’s my initial testing. Product: MX327 Sprays: 3 applied seperately approximately 1.5 hours apart. Place: Coffee shop, Book shop, out and about. So, at approximately 9:30 this morning I applied the first shot of MX327. The self effects seemed to kick in quite quickly, I’d say probably within the first twenty minutes of that first shot. I found myself to be in a good mood, a very good mood, in fact one of those unbrakably good moods that you know is just going to last all day. Nothing was going to upset me, life was good and I was headed out to see what I could see. There was also an air of calm that I felt, a feeling of being in control that I just loved. I picked a friend up on the way to the city centre and as soon as he got into the car I found myself yacking away. It was similar to the motormouth effect with Spaceland and I did wonder if there were perhaps some kind of residual effect from using that product. There was a difference though. I was chatting away unselfconciously, as with spaceland, but I felt more in control of it, more suave, more witty.My friend certainly seemed to be laughing at a lot of my jokes and I’m sure his mood improved as the journey continued too. Upon reaching the coffee shop I found it to be on the quiet side. We went to the counter and ordered and I noticed two odd things. the fist was that my friend seemed content to let me order for him, which is slightly unusual. Usually even if I do get to the counter first he’ll but in at some point. I’m not sure if this was due to some kind of added value, a more take charge attitude from myself or was a fluke but it was definitely there. The other thing was the woman who served me. As I gave my order I realised that our eyes were completely locked as I spoke. She seemed quite comfortable about it and it was I that noticed it first and broke contact. It must have lasted a good long few seconds though. She also treat me to a big dimply smile which I fancied might just contain a hint of embarassment. The rest of the perhaps, hour and a half spent in the establishment went by fast. Communication seemed easy and I was again aware of my own sparkling wit and skill as a raconteur matched by my companions almost eagerness to listen. My friend is a good bloke but he can tend towards the moody and often has times when, although you’re talking to him, you know he’s too absorbed in his own thoughts to listen. Not today though. Today he was all ears. There was nothing else really to report, apart from an older lady sat in the corner staring at me at one point. Being a wheelchair user I do sometimes just get stared at so I’m not sure if that was a hit or not. So in order to further the testing and to see if I sould eek any more out of the MX I decided to add another spray. I did this as I went to get my refill and probably spent another 30 minutes or so back at the table afterwards. To be honest I saw nothing other than I’d already seen. We had a wander around town after the coffee and I noticed my mood persisted and that it seemed to have caught my friend in it’s grasp too. I felt, I think buoyant would be a good word, but also quite forceful, not in a grrrrr way but more filled with a quiet unquestionable authority that just gets things done and draws agreement rather than demands it. There was a time in the book shop that I had to ask a gentleman to move out of my way as he was stood in the middle of the aisle reading a magazine. He did so but was over the top aopologetic about it afterwards, in fact at one point I thoug he was going to come after me to finish apologising! There was nothng else really to report from this little outing. A third spray didn’t make any real difference from what I observed. I will be trying this again tonight as I’m going to a college reunionion. Here’s some initial thoughts though. The mix seems smooth in the same way that IG is but there also seems to be a focus on the wearer that goes beyond IG as well as a quality that seems quietly authorititive. It seems to attract attention and then hold it, whilst at the same time aiding communication and giving off a a happy vibrant vibe and I think there’d definitely something in there that ups the percieved value of the wearer but in more of a seductive way than a demanding way. The mix doesn’t feel aggresive in any way and I’m certainly not getting that None Grrr when wearing it but I think it could be sexy, given the right situation as it does seem to have a magnetic quality in the mix. Overall I think that this could be a great Mx for initiating and maintaing conversation and I think it is something that would make one the centre of attention once the sweet spot has been found. I’m looking forward to wearing this in a more traditionally social setting (with alcohol) tonight. TBC… ---
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And now for the slightly delayed second report on MX327 Product: Mx327 Sprays: 4 - 5 Place: Pub and then late bar/club So this was the aforementioned college reunion. Bit of a bust really as only 7 of us were there. The good thing about that is that those seven people were slit 5/2 in favour of the ladies. I started with 1 spray to the adams apple and, on a hunch that the two would pair up nicely, two shots of IG to the sides of the neck. Again after leaving time for drydown I felt cool calm and collected, in a very good mood and nicely motivated. I think the IG leant a little weight to the mix as it was certainly a heavier feeling compared to earlier that day. So there we are all sat around a large wooden table in a local pub, a Ska night in full and very loud swing and once again I get that feeling that it’s all revolving around me. I’m feeling very good and very comfortable. I own the situation. There are no nerves and the little voice that live in my head and monitors me was being pretty quiet. I’m also really funny apparently. Everyones laughing at my little cracks and conversation as a whole just goes really, really smoothly despite the really loud music. In short I’m the man! We have a good few and at some point in proceedings (I’m gonna say about 10ish) I pop off for another little spray. Again that second spray doesn’t seem to have too much of an additional effect but not to worry cos I’m happy with how the night is going. Two of the girls left us after that which was a shame, but after they had gone the two girls that had been sitting opposite me shifted around. They could have gone either weay but they decided to sit next to me. Interesting. Nothing else really happened in the pub. The people I’d been talking to had consisted of some people that I’ve not seen for about 15 years but it was all very, very easy an I don’t think that under normal circumstances I would have found that situation that easy. The next part of the night saw yours truly deciding to pop into the city centre and hit Fab Cafe. This was partly cos I was a little drunk and fancied it, but also partly because I wanted to take this baby for a stroll amongst the drunken young women I knew would be there. Unfortunately I think a good proportion of said young women might have been at bonfires because the place was on the quiet side for midnight, not dead but not jumping. Anyway onwards and upwards. I went in, popped to the loo and added a third spray, then went to the bar for a drink. Initially there was nothing. I scouted round the place, smiling at the honeys and got a few smiles back. Nothing out of the ordinary though. So after a bit I decided to just enjoy life and went for another drink… Hit! As I stod at the bar I glanced to my left. There stood a couple, ordering tequila shots with lime and salt. He was directly next to me she was directly next to him. As I glanced I caught the lady’s eyes and there was a moment of shock registered there. People have mentioned the term DIHL on here plenty of times and I’ve never really seen it. This was definitely it though, a second of frozen indecision, fight or flight. It actually made me quite happy. a few minutes later the couple asked me to take a picture of them doing the shots and I gladly obliged before moving on. The second and third hits of the night occured within a short time span. The first was as I once again went to the bar, There was a bit of a queue and it took me a while to see my opening. Eventually though I sawe a space and, getting close enough, launched myself out of my wheelchair and up to the bar. Almost immediately the girl to my right said "I’ve been wondering how you’d do that’ and we started talking. The conversation only lasted a few minutes whilst we got served (and she did insist I go first even though she was plainly first in the queue) Again I got that easy, natural conversation vibe I’d got before and she left saying she would come and dance with me later. Sadly she never did but I choose to believe her friends (she carried off four drinks) snatched her away from me. I certainly didn’t see any more of her. Hit three was a young german girl who it later transpired was a student at the local uni. I was sat by the dancefloor waiting to see if the dj would play any actual music when I caught a snatch of conversation and looked up. a guy was giving said girl a little light hearted grief and she turned to me and said “Ignore him he’s a knobhead” which sounds fabulous in a german accent. We exchanged a few more words and she went of to dance with a gal pal. It must have been about 45 seconds before she came back and basically forced me onto the dance floor. We danced for a bit and talked (or shouted at each other) and I was getting a good vibe. Sadly my bladder interuppted and I told her I’d be right back. I wasn’t right, right back because it took ages to find the key for the disabled loo (bane of my life!). Whilst there I decided to see how fart I could push this mix. I fished in my pocket and found my trusty TUTH and added a shot to the stomach to see if I could add a little None grrrr. Sadly the hot German had disappeared during my sojourn to the facilities and even more sadly the TUTH didn’t seem to be having the desired effect. In fact, if anything I think I was getting less from the mix. There’s nothing much else to report I’m afraid, I did catch sight of German girl a couple of times but she seemed to be all over one of the guys she’d intially been with. I did have a not particularly attractive girl try and talk to me but as she was very drunk and not my type at all I didn’t go to any great lengths to keep the convo going. Three things occur to me about this product after this test. The first is that it seems to build charisma and charm in me and to gently but insistently throw focus on me. This is especially noticable in conversation. Occasionally when weaing None based mixes I’ve pulled women in from a small distance away with out any need for conversation. With this I think conversaion is necessary to get the fll benefit, but it seems to make the job so much easier that this is hardly a chore. The second thing is that None does not seem to enhance the mix. I’m not picking up any None kick in it and when I added the TUTH it seemed to hamper rather than help. I added amother shot of the Mx later on to try and bring the vibe back and might have added one more after that (it gets a bit fuzzy.) The third is that two of the hits were whist I was standin quite closed to the hitee. I was on a level with them and with a foot or two. The girls in the pub were all sat, so on the same level as me and the German and the unnatractive girl were both on the short side. This makes me wonder if this mix is better in closer quarter. I might try a wrist application rather than neck at some point, to aid diffusion. In summary, I’m very impressed by this stuff. It seems seductive but not blatant and it eases communication, adds sparkle and charm and seems to invoke focus on the wearer for those close enough. It seems to pair very well with IG too. The two just seemed to mesh nicely together, I felt both but didn’t feel one over the other or feel that they fought at all. I might see how [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) goes with it next time as that seems to go well with IG too and I just got a 5mc full bottle. Next test will probably be the weekend. 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