# Ninety Degrees to Normal - The Tangent files.

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**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [February 22, 2009, 3:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379 "2009-02-22T15:12:44Z")\
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**Post date:** [November 12, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/41 "2009-11-12T19:39:33Z")

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So many Pheromones, so little time. I recieved a new order recently, a brand new 30ml bottle of my favourite little putative P83 at 5Mcg and a Togo of Meo-est.

Now I’m well aware of P83 and have had considerable success with it in the past. Meo-est however, despite it’s seemingly faultless rep on the forum, is an unknown quantity to me.

Last night, at home alone, I sprayed one and a bit sprays (that first mini spray and a full one.) to my throat and rubbed a little of the residue under my nose in order to see if there were any major effects. Nohing really struck me too hard, perhaps there was a slight feeling of comfort, a soft serenity but that could just have been the tiredness of a hard day at work taking hold.

Intrigued I went for 3 sprays today, all applied to the neck and all about 30 minutes before leaving for work. This time I was certain. There wasa calm about me, an assuredness. Everything was alright, nothing was too much hassle. I felt happy but somehow subdued. Not in a spaceland-y woozy way but in a really subtle way that I actually quite liked.

I think thes would be great for adding to decent whacks of None, just to smooth out the sharp edges and I think it would work wondersfor approach fear. There’s usually this little voice up there in my head that whispers the promise of failure to me, but today that voice was absent and my mind nicely silent.

Yes I think I like this one.

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**Post date:** [November 18, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/42 "2009-11-18T23:49:35Z")

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Well I’ve been a busy boy since last we spoke. Had a cracking night out on Friday with the help of 3 sprays mx327 (please, please get 351 back in the store… please) 20mcg p83 and a 2 shots of IG. The combo worked wonders. And I’ve got a new friend on FB who seems quite keen as a result.

Not really done much with the little bottles sonce then but today I decided to take Meo-est out for a spin. I applied 3 sprays to the neck gave it 15mins and left for work.

even in the car I got that calm, centred, in the moment feeling. To be honest I got withing a few yards of work and realised that I couldn’t remember much of the journey at all. I mean it’s a journey I take every day so it does tend to slip by somewhat but I honestly coudn’t tell you if if it took a longer or shorter time than usual. The rest of the morning seemed to pass in a similar vein. I got through quite a bit of work but it all seemed to just pass me by. The work was done properly but it didn’t seem to require much effort. The girl opposie also seemed in a good mood and quite chatty, not totally atypical but she did seem a bit giddy today.

One other thing I noticed, and this is quite interesting, Is that I became more than usually aware of my groin. I’m not sure how else to put it. No stirrings occured but I just seemed to have a feeling of concentration in that area. It was a bit wierd really. I’m definitely going to give this one again.

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/43 "2009-11-21T20:35:41Z")

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Today being Saturday I popped into town for my usual Saturday morning jaunt. I usually meet up with a workmate for a coffee, a bite to eat and a good chinwag. Today I was solo but I decided ‘what the hell’ and went anyway.

Mostly this is because I find the surroundings of the popular brand of coffee shop and the bookshop I visited afterwards to be very condusive as a testing environment. There’s not as many drunk girls but there’s also not as much drunk me and the environments are nicely social and very laid back.

So for todays test I decided to take my new best friend MX327 for it’s penultimate outing. I only have a little of this left and I’m going to wear that tomorrow for a meeting with three of my closest female friends to check it’s effects on them. I decided that I had a good handle on what this little beauty could do so I decided to pair it with something else. Looking through my stash I decided to go against the grain and went for a single spray of Jerk.

Now I know mx327 goes amazingly well with IG but I thought IJ would provide it with a real challenge. They really are very different animals, 327 being extremely welcoming, social and attractive and IJ being so much more aggressive and in your face. I also decided to add a little p83 to make the hits that bit more blatant. The effects were definitely pronounced.

The journey to town passed without incident but on the way into town I started to feel some huge self effects. I was feeling really aggressive. It was controllable and I wasn’t raging but I was aware of, for instance, seeing someone walking directly into my path and thinking ‘I’m not moving out of the way mate; You are.’ I was also making eye contact for much longer than normal and this became more apparent later.

For now though I was just examining these feeling of aggression. It seemed to calm down after about 30 minutes or so and by the time I was sat in the coffee house it seemed to have diminished into this feeling of… certainty. That’s probably a bit of a poor way of desribing it but I felt like I had a real presence there; that I was king of the place and that I just didn’t care about anybody elses opinion. Maybe the best illustration of this would be that if I was sat alone in the coffee house in the past I might have felt slightly self concious. Today I didn’t. So what I’m on my own? I’m going to sit here and enjoy my coffee. I might have a look round, I might noy. I’ll take my own sweet time over it and that’s that.

Now this is slightly different to how I’ve experienced Jerk before (and I do think it was the dominant signature even though there was only one spray of IJ to 3 of Mx327 and 20mcg of p83). Previously when I’ve worn it I’ve experienced feelings of impatience and intolerance but this time there seemed to be a ‘sod you, this is who I am, this is what I’m doing and that’s that’ sort of matter of factness to it. A feeling that no arguement could be brooked. I was just… right.

I also continued to experience that elongated eye contact I mentioned. Every person of interest through the door was greeted with a long steady look into the eyes(and the odd smle. I wasn’t staring them out.) and once or twice I got that look away, lookback reaction from them. One lady, as she was ordering her coffee started reapplying her lipstick which I thought was odd (she was alone but sadly ordered to go.) There was even a point where, staring out of the window I noticed a not unattractive lady across the street. She turned and saw me bu I kept on looking and gave her a smile. That’s crazy confidence for me!

Overall, once the first 30minutes or so had passed I really like the self effects of this combo. It felt all business and very self assured. I think I’ll be trying it again.

I should also mention that I’m off work all this week and I’m expecting an order which will probably come Monday or Tuesday and should include Mx351 and Mx352 so keep em peeled for reports.

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**Post date:** [November 24, 2009, 12:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/44 "2009-11-24T00:07:34Z")

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Righty-ho folkses.

Took the Mx327 out to meet my female friends as promised. To be honest I didn’t get a lot out of it. there wer still those pretty powerful self effects but nothing really telling from any of my friends. I was wearing 3 sprays solo and my thoughts are thus.

1. The setting and people I was with were perhaps not the best people to test this product on.

The people I was with I’ve known for getting on for 15 years. MX327 seems to open women up to me and get them talking, to mke me seems warm, attractive, approachable and the centre of attention. To a degree with these people I already play this role. We’re all very comfortable with each other anyway and we fall into certain patterns of behaviour. We were also out in a family pub for a sunday roast so the atmosphere was one of freindly domesticity rather than anything else.

1. My sweet spot is higher. I was wearing 3 sprays and stupidly forgot to take the To-go with me. I was also wearing it solo. The best hits I’ve had with this product have, now that I read back, been at more like 4-5 sprays when worn solo or when paired with IG and p83.

As I’ve now got my hands on my to-gos of MX351 and, as I’m headed out for a trawl around town tomorrow I’m tempted to go with 4 sprays and take the IG and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) with me.

I’m also contemplating toying with A314 and IH with a little P83 as well though.

Decisions, decisions.

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**Post date:** [November 29, 2009, 10:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/45 "2009-11-29T22:08:44Z")

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I’ve just realised that I totally failed to report on my midweek testing. Doh!

As it happened I ended up only having one day in town, rather than the two I was planning. The reason for this is that the pre christmas, pre pay day, midweek scene was kinda dead and I didn’t want to burn any more money under such conditions. Waiting is and there will be lots of primo social occasions to get the good stuff out.

Anyway, back to Tuesday. I got a taxi into town that morning, not too early, but int time for a nice spot of breakfast.

I was wearing the following. 2 drops a314, 3 sprays mx327, 4 sprays IH, and 20mcg p83.

I started the day in a well known coffee house as is my want and did the crossword in the paper I bought for that purpose, all the while checking the people around me for effects.

What I noticed more than anything else were the self effects. I was making far more eye contact with the people who passed the table and felt quite cocky if a little bit silent and within myself. It was a little similar to the effects of the IJ + Mx327 mix I mention upthread although I did feel a bit more aloof from people than with the effects mentioned there, a little more distant.

Mostly the people around me seemed to echo this. The eye contact I made was soone terminated by the other party although I did catch one look back. Probably the strongest hit was that from a women who sat down at a table near mine, opened a book an proceeded to laugh out loud, quite loudly and quite blatantly in a way that just seemed a little false. I glanced at her from the corner of my eye and saw that she was also stroking her leg quite a bit. I found her more annoying than anything else though so there’s nothing else to report.

The rest of the day was mostly a bust. There really weren’t a lot of people about at the places I went. Early evening came and I decided I wanted to stay out and see what else I could see. I also decided on a boost and added two more sprays of mx327 (finishing the bottle) a spray TUTH and 2 more IH.

The bars were also pretty dead but I did find myself getting into two conversations with blokes that I’d never met before. On both occasions they opened the conversation and on both occasions it was easy to talk and the conversations were like those with old friends. I’d probably say this is to do with the raise in status from the a314 and the IH adding in that old friend vibe. That was it from the bars.

At this point I was a little unhappy with the lack of ladies around to test on, I was also a little drunk. These elements combined in my mind and worked to inform the decision to visit one of the city’s lap dancing establishment on the way adding another 3 sprays of p83.

Well to cut a long story short I was going there for one dance and ended up staying for three, all from the same girl. I’ve been to these places before but this was the best lapdance I’ve ever had. the Girl was really getting into it and several time I found myself with her pressed right up against me, looking down into my eyes, her hands starign to wander under my shirt. I also swear that when she straddled one of my legs she wasa little on the damp side. It maybe she was just a very talented lady but things did seem to be a little more personal and a little more heated than I’ve known before.

On a none phero related note I’ve been experimenting with subliminals lately. I’ve been using a confidence boosting product that I sourced through here (the site belongs to our own Catlord I believe.) It’s early days yet but I think it could well be having and effect!

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**Post date:** [January 8, 2010, 9:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ninety-degrees-to-normal-the-tangent-files/26379/46 "2010-01-08T21:47:28Z")

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And once more I lapse into silence.

To be honest there’s a reason for this. Since Xmas I’ve not been able to go out because of all the damned snow. I did have a couple of nights out but went with tried and tested combos. Got a couple of light hits but nothing extraordinary with them so nothing too much to report. Ah well the white stuff can’t stay forever so hopefully I’ll be back out there soon. Hopefully

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