# Nipple Pheromones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 24, 2006, 7:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605 "2006-08-24T07:27:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 8:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/21 "2006-08-24T20:39:44Z")
Hmmmm… we seem to be living in different universes my experience is that poverty, and poverty mindset… massively sucks and I am absolutley glad not to be in poverty… poverty fills you with fear and dread, the walls close in on you, you’re surrounded by criminals, misfits, and freaks… no way I’d ever go back to that… you would not believe some of the deranged shit I saw… I like, I really like being able to get the medical care I need without having to fuck around with dysfunctional insurance companies, I like being able to eat digestable food, I like being in a position to help other people, I like being able to choose my companions… anybody that thinks that money doesn’t make a significant difference in the quality of life is living in fantsyland… heck, one of my motivations for using pheromones is to be personally more effective and grow faster, intellectually, emotionally, in life generally… poverty left me with a harrowing dread of being imprisoned by circumstances… I think my greatest day to day motivation to NOT be satisfied with my personal _status quo_ was the sheer hideousness of poverty… and what poverty does to people… it eats them alive, it is corrosive as sulfuric acid, it is as toxic as cyanide…never, never, never again baby… to get out you have to get educated and start thinking like an articulate, educated person, you have to take on the mental structures of educated, successful people… I will never, never, never romanticise or glorify the deprivations of poverty… it is bleak, nasty, ugly, grim, and painful as holy hell. ---
**Author:** ![itwow](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/itwow/32/1493_2.png) [@itwow](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/itwow)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 10:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/22 "2006-08-24T22:24:57Z")
Being REAL (& yourself) gives immense freedom & gratification, but only to the right person (partner/SO/family/friend). It feels like a cage if I can’t be real when I’m with my SO. Then again, poverty & the anguish in childhood & adulthood (working environment) puts a heavy baggage which most can’t resolve internally. It gets carried to the final days in life, unfortunately. There are techniques to clear the baggage, but it’s tough & hard work. ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2006, 10:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/23 "2006-08-24T22:47:44Z")
Yes you are so right, ItWow, it is DAMN hard work, and it makes you a much stronger person as a result of making it there - trust me, I know. I was put at rock-bottom financially by my extremely violent, misogynistic ex-husband, and could have at one point cheerfully just lay down and died, but I did not, and I alone pulled myself up by my bootstraps and got myself to be the strong woman I am today, and trust me, it took time to get back to where I was, but I can tell you never agan will I be poor, and never again will a man lay a hand on me in violence. Being virtually destitute made me what I am today, and I will NEVER glorify poverty, but there is ALWAYS a way to get upwards out of the cess-pit, and the power to do so, as you rightly say, has to come from inside, from the heart. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 3:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/24 "2006-08-25T03:40:36Z")
How did we get here from nipple pheromones ? I just want my damn nipple pheromones ! Big powerful, fertile nipples for me to enjoy a moment of infantile regression with… they must be rich with wonderous stimulating pheromones because I am compulsively drawn to fabulous nipples… my inner monkey child nature fixating on mama monkey !!! Yay nipples ! Rock on ! ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 7:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/25 "2006-08-25T07:44:53Z")
Indeed..but YOU got us here by talking about women loving a fat wallet.. I know you didn’t intentionally generalise and make a sweeping statement, but you did do. Anyway, like I said, I roll a PCC/EW (whole bottle to whole bottle ratio) mix around each nipple any time I wear pheromones with cops in them, and it certainly does the trick. Ail 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 10:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/26 "2006-08-25T10:39:10Z")
**1:** Horm Behav. 2004 Sep;46(3):362-70.[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query/egifs/http:–linkinghub.elsevier.com-ihub-images-PubMedLink.gif](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/lofref.fcgi?itool=AbstractPlus-def&PrId=3048&uid=15325237&db=pubmed&url=http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0018506X04001278) Links **Social chemosignals from breastfeeding women increase sexual motivation.** - **Spencer NA** (["Spencer NA"[Author] - Search Results - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed_AbstractPlus&term=%22Spencer+NA%22%5BAuthor%5D)), - **McClintock MK** ([http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed\_AbstractPlus&term="McClintock+MK"[Author]](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed_AbstractPlus&term=%22McClintock+MK%22%5BAuthor%5D)), - **Sellergren SA** (["Sellergren SA"[Author] - Search Results - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed_AbstractPlus&term=%22Sellergren+SA%22%5BAuthor%5D)), - **Bullivant S** (["Bullivant S"[Author] - Search Results - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed_AbstractPlus&term=%22Bullivant+S%22%5BAuthor%5D)), - **Jacob S** (["Jacob S"[Author] - Search Results - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed_AbstractPlus&term=%22Jacob+S%22%5BAuthor%5D)), - **Mennella JA** (["Mennella JA"[Author] - Search Results - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed_AbstractPlus&term=%22Mennella+JA%22%5BAuthor%5D)). The Institute for Mind and Biology, The University of Chicago, Chicago, IL 60637, USA. [Human pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), a type of social chemosignal, modulate endocrine function by regulating the timing of ovulation. In animals, pheromones not only regulate ovulation but also female reproductive motivation and behavior. There is no extant evidence that humans produce social chemosignals that affect human sexual motivation or reproductive behavior as occurs in other mammals. Here, we demonstrate that natural compounds collected from lactating women and their breastfeeding infants increased the sexual motivation of other women, measured as sexual desire and fantasies. Moreover, the manifestation of increased sexual motivation was different in women with a regular sexual partner. Those with a partner experienced enhanced sexual desire, whereas those without one had more sexual fantasies. These results are consistent with previous pheromonal effects on endocrine function, and warrant further study of these social chemosignals as candidates for pheromonal processes, including their effects on other aspects of motivation and behavior. PMID: 15325237 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 1:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/27 "2006-08-25T13:51:09Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Indeed..but YOU got us here by talking about women loving a fat wallet.. > > I know you didn’t intentionally generalise and make a sweeping statement, but you did do. It isn’t an overeaching truth that applies to all people in all circumstances… probably more accentuated in American culture… I’ve generally found South American women to be dramatically less materialistic than the Norteamericanas… It finally became so obnoxious that I lost intertest in the _gringas_… you can sure see what they’re made of when it comes to their divorces… vicious carniverous battles over possessions… guys running out and buying $4000 dollar watches so they can go on dates… sick dynamic if you ask me… I infintely prefer hookers to the dating scene as it stands today… in the long run, much less wear and tear, much better time with less jerking around… I ended up respecting a number of the hookers a lot for their frankness… like 'em a lot as people… I have women friends that I don’t get into the dating thing with, I have my pros that I have sex with… and exceedingly good sex I might add… and to deflate some wack urban myth… many hookers do enjoy sex and like a lot of the guys they have sex with… hey, the hookers like their money too… they’re just completely honest about what equals what… you go on a typical “date”, whatever that is, in New York City… man, they’re practically X-ray machines scoping you out for any and all IOWs (that’s the flip side of IOIs… Indicators Of Wealth)… ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2006, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/28 "2006-08-25T13:55:34Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > **1:** Horm Behav. 2004 Sep;46(3):362-70.[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query/egifs/http:–linkinghub.elsevier.com-ihub-images-PubMedLink.gif](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/utils/lofref.fcgi?itool=AbstractPlus-def&PrId=3048&uid=15325237&db=pubmed&url=http://linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0018506X04001278) Links > **Social chemosignals from breastfeeding women increase sexual motivation.** > > - **Spencer NA** (["Spencer NA"[Author] - Search Results - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed_AbstractPlus&term=%22Spencer+NA%22%5BAuthor%5D)), > - **McClintock MK** ([http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed\_AbstractPlus&term="McClintock+MK"[Author]](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed_AbstractPlus&term=%22McClintock+MK%22%5BAuthor%5D)), > - **Sellergren SA** (["Sellergren SA"[Author] - Search Results - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed_AbstractPlus&term=%22Sellergren+SA%22%5BAuthor%5D)), > - **Bullivant S** (["Bullivant S"[Author] - Search Results - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed_AbstractPlus&term=%22Bullivant+S%22%5BAuthor%5D)), > - **Jacob S** (["Jacob S"[Author] - Search Results - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed_AbstractPlus&term=%22Jacob+S%22%5BAuthor%5D)), > - **Mennella JA** (["Mennella JA"[Author] - Search Results - PubMed](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Search&itool=pubmed_AbstractPlus&term=%22Mennella+JA%22%5BAuthor%5D)). > The Institute for Mind and Biology, The University of Chicago, Chicago, IL 60637, USA. > Human pheromones, a type of social chemosignal, modulate endocrine function by regulating the timing of ovulation. In animals, pheromones not only regulate ovulation but also female reproductive motivation and behavior. There is no extant evidence that humans produce social chemosignals that affect human sexual motivation or reproductive behavior as occurs in other mammals. Here, we demonstrate that natural compounds collected from lactating women and their breastfeeding infants increased the sexual motivation of other women, measured as sexual desire and fantasies. Moreover, the manifestation of increased sexual motivation was different in women with a regular sexual partner. Those with a partner experienced enhanced sexual desire, whereas those without one had more sexual fantasies. These results are consistent with previous pheromonal effects on endocrine function, and warrant further study of these social chemosignals as candidates for pheromonal processes, including their effects on other aspects of motivation and behavior. > PMID: 15325237 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE] it always amazed me how every friend i had ( at a time when i was nursing my sons) suddenly ALSO wanted to be pregnant/have babies. im not saying that lasted… i think reality of all the things that go along with rearing children sets in, but its true that while its going on, suddenly its the thing to do. coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2006, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/29 "2006-09-03T02:53:13Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Nah..not buying that one. “The Man’s” Mum has a very ample chest, as have both his sisters - and I really do have none to speak of, so I think that is one theory I will NOT be subscribing to.. > > Ail 🙂 You seem to have a rather black and white decision making process, there, Ail. There’s more to it than just one variable. Just because one variable doesn’t necessarily line up, the whole theory isn’t shot to hell, you know. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2006, 3:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/30 "2006-09-03T03:07:39Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > I am totally unmaterialistic. > > A gorgeous smile that goes all the way RIGHT up to a beautiful pair of honest eyes, is what gets me where it should. > > I loathe men and women who are all about the flash and the cash. > > Money might be able to buy a lot, and it sure can help get you the coolest clothes and the nicest car, and even if you are altruistic, the best job, but so the heck what…? > > NEVER was a truer word spoken than that money CANNOT buy you happiness. > > Looks fade, and bankrolls can increase and decrease, but when your heart is good and true, trust me, the world IS your oyster. If you also find a partner in life that has a good true heart, then artifice goes out the window. > > Okay, never stop putting effort into a relationship, always keep a bit of the magic and the mystery, but please, so many of you really need to start seeing past the gloss and the glitz and appreciate the person INSIDE. > > Rant over. I just think a lot of you actually are preventing yourselves from being truly happy by being so superficial. > > It’s not a reprimand in any way, it’s simply a suggestion to look outside the box for once. Mak has it right - Lor has it bang-on, some others do too, but honestly, I worry a lot of you are setting yourselves unrealistic goals that can only result in you never being content. > > Even the way you describe certain women is not helping. Does a woman have to be a slut just because she maybe dresses a bit trashy and seems flirtatious? No, she damn well does not. I know in the men’s forum, guys have looser tongues and to be honest, I hear worse from some of my own students, but it is NOT helping you be content in yourself if you put women into boxes - or try to compartmentalise them by their “waist to hip ratio.” > > What a lot of numpty gumff! > > I have said this so many times here, be yourself, and it pays dividends BIG time. Put on an act, then when the mask finally slips, you are in for a ton of disappointment. > > Do I know what I’m talking about? You bet your life I do. > > ..that’s another story for another lifetime though. > > Brightest Blessings. > > Ail )O( Again, seems to me you have a tendency to think in rather absolutist terms. That’s going to mean you miss a lot of the stuff that’s not absolute. There’s infinite colors in a rainbow, ya know… By the way, what I said about a waist to hip ratio of 0.7:1 is not compartmentalizing. It’s fact, and it makes sense. Narrow hips isn’t good for giving birth. Wide hips is. and it’s been shown that males generally prefer a hip to waist ratio of 0.7:1 as a signal of optimal reproductive health in this particular area. Sorry if you don’t like it, but them’s the facts. Nowadays, we have plenty to eat, so a woman can have good birthing hips and a hip to waist ratio of 250:1. (And unfortunately, I live in the United States, where this actually happens!) But the primal lizard brain still generally prefers that magic 0.7:1 ratio. Enjoy your numpty gumff. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Rob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/838e76/32.png) [@Rob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rob)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2006, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/31 "2006-09-04T02:03:37Z")
Hey Tacitus.. since you mentioned being educated and poverty.. you have alot of thought out things to say. What sort of education and job did you get? ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2006, 8:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/32 "2006-09-04T08:45:19Z")
Most of my education has been self inflicted… fortunately am a voracious reader and generally insatiably curious… did some university at a large state school, excelled at biology… wrote my first serious paper on pheromones in 1975… have done a wide range of jobs from the menial to the mathematical… have concluded now at the 50 year mark that a first rate education is the best investment money can buy, bar none… although with this one caveat… **I have observed that education can be as narrowing as it is enlarging…** there are many people out there who are prisoners of some perspective they took on in their youth and never had the necessary rebelliousness to see it from any other viewpoints… although, generally speaking, the consequences of non-education are far more severe, downright stunting… this of course leaves wide open the question of what constitutes the educative experience ? Strong academic training is fundamentally learning to use abstraction, you might join up with one of the Special Forces groups and you have a totally different model of what “education” means… the critical thing is to develop a quality sometimes called **close reasoning** \*\*,\*\* friends who have been well educated in the Russian university system really admire close reasoning.. they give you a great compliment when they say you use it, it’s mirror is a finely tuned ear for the quality of an idea… learn to distinguish between inferior, mediocre, and superior ideas and know the smell of each category, that’s a safe start ---
**Author:** ![javer24601](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@javer24601](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/javer24601)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/33 "2006-09-04T17:24:54Z")
I happen to be one of those men. I don’t mind breasts, but they are far from the first thing that attracts me. But I don’t need to say what does 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2006, 5:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/34 "2006-09-04T17:46:13Z")
I tend to be attracted to specific proportions and degrees of curve than any particular part of a woman’s body. If her shoulders are more fitting than her chest, I notice her shoulders. If her chest is more fitting than her butt, I notice her butt. If it’s lips, then I notice lips. Whatever. I just like certain types and proportions of curve. There’s beauty to be found in a lot of places on a woman’s body, if that’s where you look for it. But I do appreciate nice boobs, too. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2006, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/35 "2006-09-05T03:05:20Z")
i notice them second,only because first will always belong to wit. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2006, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/36 "2006-09-06T03:08:20Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > i notice them second,only because first will always belong to wit. I am, of course, referring to the physical attributes only, not considering wit or confidence or any of that sort of thing. Short shit. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2006, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605/37 "2006-09-06T04:32:12Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I am, of course, referring to the physical attributes only, not considering wit or confidence or any of that sort of thing. > > Short shit. 🆒 if we are strictly talking physical attributes,i need curves. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nipple-pheromones/605.md?page=1)