# no/bad effects with ammo **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 1, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-bad-effects-with-ammo/50547 "2011-06-01T14:51:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Private\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@Private\_Man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Private_Man)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-bad-effects-with-ammo/50547/1 "2011-06-01T14:51:31Z")
this was memorial day weekend and as many people probably did some great experimenting, i myself tried several different combos and didnt get very good reviews. no i am very good looking and my personality was very up beat. so i take those 2 things out of the equation. i can also take out that they weren’t interested cause as it was mostly a drinking and swiming suit fest, i had seen many women and younger girls just falling all over the guys out at the lake. me personally, i tried just ammo one time. then another time i tried 2x ammo 2x is. then i thought hell i am not getting anywhere with this so i stepped up the socials with 2x ammo 2xis 2x io. and still nothing and through all these test i had 2 of the 3 days woman and girls coming around me saying that my smell was making them sick to there stomach. now as you might be able to expect i took a hit in confidence this weekend. here all these beautiful ladies were all in swimsuits and all i could get was wow you make my stomach hurt. all i was really looking for was so positive reactions. so if there is anyone that can help me with a mix or something that can take a cute girl say 18-25 yr old who walks by and it just stops her dead in her tracks. i am really curious. i really would like to be the one that the women and girls come to me and not me chasing after them. something that just drops them to there knee’s no pun intended. something that says OMFG i want your body, i have to have you. Let’s get naked. Anyone’s help would be greatly appriciated. thanks. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-bad-effects-with-ammo/50547/2 "2011-06-01T15:05:16Z")
> [@holljv](#): > > this was memorial day weekend and as many people probably did some great experimenting, i myself tried several different combos and didnt get very good reviews. no i am very good looking and my personality was very up beat. so i take those 2 things out of the equation. i can also take out that they weren’t interested cause as it was mostly a drinking and swiming suit fest, i had seen many women and younger girls just falling all over the guys out at the lake. me personally, i tried just ammo one time. then another time i tried 2x ammo 2x is. then i thought hell i am not getting anywhere with this so i stepped up the socials with 2x ammo 2xis 2x io. and still nothing and through all these test i had 2 of the 3 days woman and girls coming around me saying that my smell was making them sick to there stomach. now as you might be able to expect i took a hit in confidence this weekend. here all these beautiful ladies were all in swimsuits and all i could get was wow you make my stomach hurt. all i was really looking for was so positive reactions. > > so if there is anyone that can help me with a mix or something that can take a cute girl say 18-25 yr old who walks by and it just stops her dead in her tracks. i am really curious. i really would like to be the one that the women and girls come to me and not me chasing after them. something that just drops them to there knee’s no pun intended. something that says OMFG i want your body, i have to have you. Let’s get naked. Anyone’s help would be greatly appriciated. thanks. If I read this correctly you were at an outdoor venue in the lake. Usually water and outdoor activities limit the effects you get from mones. In my experiences, they really shine when you’re closer and it can diffuse within a certain area. Its hard to believe that just the mones could cause women to feel sick, [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) is actually something that has calming effects as a scent alone. Now since you have the AMMO on there, my theory is that you struck them at the wrong time of the month for that specific case, even if buffered by socials. Based on your description of yourself, you might have a higher -none production and the extra in AMMO, for those specific women, just had too much Androstenone. I went out on MDW before and had mones on, the problem with being outside is that catching mone specific hits are very hard when you’re outside, especially even if there is a slight breeze there and lots of competing natural scents from everyone out there. ---
**Author:** ![Private\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@Private\_Man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Private_Man)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-bad-effects-with-ammo/50547/3 "2011-06-01T15:18:43Z")
just to respond back. yes the venue was a outside boat dock and beach type. there was a slight breeze but i wouldnt think that would have had to much of a difference would it? and if so then they surely shouldn’t have thought i was making them sick. If thats the case then they would have been picking up on the mones. so thats why i was asking if anyone knows of a mix that is a stop them dead in there tracks mix. one that does not make them sick. LOL O also LOL the testing all together took a half a togo bottle in the three days. WOW this stuff doesn’t last long at all. i thought for sure i would have atleast got 2-3 weeks of testing out of it. So newbies be aware togos go rather quickly. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-bad-effects-with-ammo/50547/4 "2011-06-01T16:03:56Z")
> [@](#): > > this was memorial day weekend and as many people probably did some great experimenting, i myself tried several different combos and didnt get very good reviews. no i am very good looking and my personality was very up beat. so i take those 2 things out of the equation. i can also take out that they weren’t interested cause as it was mostly a drinking and swiming suit fest, i had seen many women and younger girls just falling all over the guys out at the lake. me personally, i tried just [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) one time. then another time i tried 2x [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 2x is. then i thought hell i am not getting anywhere with this so i stepped up the socials with 2x [ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 2xis 2x [io](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) . and still nothing and through all these test i had 2 of the 3 days woman and girls coming around me saying that my smell was making them sick to there stomach. now as you might be able to expect i took a hit in confidence this weekend. here all these beautiful ladies were all in swimsuits and all i could get was wow you make my stomach hurt. all i was really looking for was so positive reactions. Ok few things… Did you apply this all in one day ? Did you sit in the sun and get all sweaty ? Did you swim in the lake ? What were you doing when all these girls were hanging with the guys “out at the lake” ? Were you in the vicinity ? Do you feel you may have been acting in opposition to the mix you were wearing ? > [@](#): > > so if there is anyone that can help me with a mix or something that can take a cute girl say 18-25 yr old who walks by and it just stops her dead in her tracks. i am really curious. i really would like to be the one that the women and girls come to me and not me chasing after them. something that just drops them to there knee’s no pun intended. something that says OMFG i want your body, i have to have you. Let’s get naked. Anyone’s help would be greatly appriciated. thanks. Liquor may do it LOL Dang if you do find something that will do that tell me because it can make me very rich. [Pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) dont do that. They are tools that help open the door of opportunity but you have to walk through the door. They do not do all the work for you they just make the work you do more productive and easier. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Private\_Man](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8dc957/32.png) [@Private\_Man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Private_Man)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 4:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-bad-effects-with-ammo/50547/5 "2011-06-01T16:33:47Z")
well i have to say most of my interactions with these girls was standing near them most of the time by myself or with small crowds of 5-7 people. as for swimming or walking around. i never got in the water. i did however walk around all over, it was around 80 - 85\* and so i did sweat as most do at the beach. but there again ask the ? if it didn’t work why would they felt sick and if it did work how come it wasnt a positive and not a neg. effect? does sweating cause a oppisite reaction? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-bad-effects-with-ammo/50547/6 "2011-06-01T16:46:12Z")
> [@holljv](#): > > well i have to say most of my interactions with these girls was standing near them most of the time by myself or with small crowds of 5-7 people. as for swimming or walking around. i never got in the water. i did however walk around all over, it was around 80 - 85\* and so i did sweat as most do at the beach. but there again ask the ? if it didn’t work why would they felt sick and if it did work how come it wasnt a positive and not a neg. effect? does sweating cause a oppisite reaction? No, sweating alot activates your own natural pheromones and bacterial conversion. Its my guess the combo of your sweat, the sun, the bacterial conversion and the scent of the product (not the pheromones themselves) caused the feeling of nausea. I love the beach but I never found it the best place to use my mones. I also think your expectations of mones are a little off. Read this if you haven’t already \>\>\> [What pheromones can and can't do: realistic expectations for newcomers](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558) I suggest you back track a bit and next time you hit the beach wear just Ishine 3 to 4 sprays on different application points. Then get in there and mingle a bit. If your really shy then go here \>\>\> [Using Body Language](http://changingminds.org/techniques/body/body_language.htm) and brush on your body language basics as this will assist you as well. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-bad-effects-with-ammo/50547/7 "2011-06-01T16:52:37Z")
> [@holljv](#): > > just to respond back. yes the venue was a outside boat dock and beach type. there was a slight breeze but i wouldnt think that would have had to much of a difference would it? and if so then they surely shouldn’t have thought i was making them sick. If thats the case then they would have been picking up on the mones. so thats why i was asking if anyone knows of a mix that is a stop them dead in there tracks mix. one that does not make them sick. LOL > > O also LOL the testing all together took a half a togo bottle in the three days. WOW this stuff doesn’t last long at all. i thought for sure i would have atleast got 2-3 weeks of testing out of it. So newbies be aware togos go rather quickly. Project UF, honestly. And that’s if you wanna shell out 160 bucks to get the pack. But remember that it was prolly the -none that turned em off, and what you’re asking for will directly correlate to that.