# No consistent results with Ammo and IS: tips on where to spray and layering **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 14, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-consistent-results-with-ammo-and-is-tips-on-where-to-spray-and-layering/50312 "2011-05-14T21:13:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Latinboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc29f/32.png) [@Latinboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Latinboy)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 9:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-consistent-results-with-ammo-and-is-tips-on-where-to-spray-and-layering/50312/1 "2011-05-14T21:13:33Z")
Hi everyone, im talking from spain i want some tips or any help, im not new in the phero world, i,ve been using some products before with no effects, [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) advantage dr. amends, with no effects, max attraction gold, with no effects, and alter ego, this one i´ve been using and the first times with no effects even with my girlfriend (ex girlfriend right now), and i left it away, but about 1 month ago i tried again with a friend and she was giving me hugs, and saying that i smell so good, exactly word was, you smell like a man, a real man lol, and that night we had sex it was really good, but is not all the time, so i decide to try ammo + IS, and i was doing the sweet spot, 3 days 1 spray of ammo only in my throat, results = nothing, location = mall, market, friends(women). 2 days off, them 3 days using 2 sprays ammo the same results = nothing the same location. 2 days off 3 days using 3 sprays ammo the same results the same location. also in some days off i put 1 sprays of IS to try with no effect in me or in anyone else, them i put 2 sprays and nothing, them 3 sprays and still nothing, what am i doing wrong? why the pheros doesnt work for me, alter ego did it a couple times but only with this girl with no one else, why? i dont understand, can somebody tell me or help me?? ---
**Author:** ![sunny10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@sunny10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sunny10)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2011, 9:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-consistent-results-with-ammo-and-is-tips-on-where-to-spray-and-layering/50312/2 "2011-05-14T21:29:41Z")
Your going to have to try one spray at at a time on different parts of your body. For example IS does nothing for me in the usual locations such as wrists and neck. But than I tried the back of my neck/spin and I got an instant result of feeling good. It has taken me two weeks just to figure that one out. I It will take time, so don’t rush or waste your money to get a quick result. Play around with what you have patiently, after a few weeks you will figure out what work best where. I’m also new at this. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2011, 12:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-consistent-results-with-ammo-and-is-tips-on-where-to-spray-and-layering/50312/3 "2011-05-15T00:52:14Z")
> [@](#): > > and that night we had sex it was really good, but is not all the time, First I think your expectations of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) are a little off. They will not make people have sex with you all the time. Most of the products you listed there except Ishine are high to moderate anone formulas. They can arouse but arousal is not what inspires women to have sex with you. A feeling of connection security trust and intimacy evokes that. Its my guess that with your friend who responded to the pheromones that night she was feeling a connection with you that occured naturally. Instead of Ishine you should be buffering with IH. Since you dont have IH try 1 spray of ammo and 3 sprays of Ishine. Neck and chest area. Keep in mind pheromones will open the door to opportunity but you have to walk through the door. You have to escalate it into a sexual experience. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Latinboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9fc29f/32.png) [@Latinboy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Latinboy)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 7:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-consistent-results-with-ammo-and-is-tips-on-where-to-spray-and-layering/50312/4 "2011-05-16T07:08:18Z")
thanks for the tips im here for learn and i like this. Can i spray IS in the same ammo spot. spray IS on the top of ammo. or its better if i spray both in diferents spot? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-consistent-results-with-ammo-and-is-tips-on-where-to-spray-and-layering/50312/5 "2011-05-16T15:27:19Z")
> [@Latinboy](#): > > thanks for the tips im here for learn and i like this. Can i spray IS in the same ammo spot. spray IS on the top of ammo. or its better if i spray both in diferents spot? It depends. You can spray them (layering) on top of each other - but IS is best on the chest or under the neck where you can gain self-effects. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) I usually spray on my chest as well. Its up to you to figure out what works best for you - we can’t predict and do all of the work for you. You need some self-discovery. You know what they say - teach a man to fish, right? ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-consistent-results-with-ammo-and-is-tips-on-where-to-spray-and-layering/50312/6 "2011-05-16T22:40:07Z")
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