# No effects from instant shine? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 8, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793 "2013-01-08T17:27:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nnightwingh10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@nnightwingh10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nnightwingh10)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 5:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/1 "2013-01-08T17:27:11Z")
Hey guys! I Just got IS and I was really excited to use it! so when i tried it on, i didn’t feel any different. I didn’t notice anyone acting out of the ordinary and I didn’t feel any happier. I’m a 16 year old half caucasian half asian. Lemme know what you guys think about this! thanks guys!! ---
**Author:** ![nnightwingh10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@nnightwingh10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nnightwingh10)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/2 "2013-01-08T17:35:54Z")
I forgot to mention that I used 3-4 sprays on my neck ---
**Author:** ![kendallb183](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/71c47a/32.png) [@kendallb183](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kendallb183)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/3 "2013-01-08T20:45:08Z")
I am the same ---
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/4 "2013-01-08T21:09:41Z")
There’s no guaranteed effect at 3-4 sprays. You should test for your sweet spot following the guides on this forum. With that said, some people don’t get self effects from it, and some won’t get any anymore after some months of use. YOU have to deliver the message though. If you aren’t happy and open/smiling, others will only be affected by it so much. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 2:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/5 "2013-01-09T02:02:49Z")
> [@nnightwingh10](#): > > Hey guys! I Just got IS and I was really excited to use it! so when i tried it on, i didn’t feel any different. I didn’t notice anyone acting out of the ordinary and I didn’t feel any happier. I’m a 16 year old half caucasian half asian. Lemme know what you guys think about this! thanks guys!! First start with one spray and work up to find your dosage with all [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). You could be wearing to much for your age. Secondly…Why did you choose Ishine ? Your 16 and already youthful and I assume energetic. I am not saying it wont work for a 16 year old just that its not my first choice. Think of it metaphorically like colors. Suppose you wear a blue tshirt everyday and one day you get a new tshirt that is blue. No one is going to notice because they are conditioned to you wearing blue tshirts all the time. However if suddenly you wear red thats going to grab there attention. Thirdly… Ishine is one of the more diffecult ones to see working. It influences a mood change but if you didnt know the persons mood or temperment to begin with then its hard to see that change. Most people dont get self effects from mones because they work subconsciously and your conscious of using them. They are not designed for self signaling. My guess is your not seeing results because this product is not what you need for your intentions or biology. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/6 "2013-01-09T03:45:57Z")
I would suggest trying to put yourself in a good mood, smiling, feeling happy and thinking happy thoughts, allow the IS to “help you along” and also “help the IS along” see if that works 🙂 I’ve noticed quite good effects on myself and others using IS, though its not like taking some hard chemical prescription-only painkiller lol, its more of a mood modulator and will enhance an existing good mood if present imo [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) play into the whole social dynamic and context plays a good part in it too, so if the context you’re in allows for a good mood and the IS is congruent with your social surroundings then you will get better effects there ---
**Author:** ![dominicuk87](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/41988e/32.png) [@dominicuk87](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dominicuk87)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/7 "2013-01-09T13:50:36Z")
i am 24 and got my instant shine today, 2-3 sprays, felt no different and didnt notice anything towards how people were around me. starting to be skeptical ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/8 "2013-01-09T13:56:19Z")
Unlike IO and IH, IS doesn’t always work.. if you are in a bad mood for example others will sense it and IS may not pull you out of it. I used to like when they made 4x and 8x IS.. Some people need more of it to see results. I find it tops a mix really good.. i rarely these days go out with shine alone. Those descriptions about how it makes you feel invincable and aloof confidence etc are simply not true… I dont’ get those effects at all. What I do notice is it keep me out of a BAD mood not so much puts me in a great one. To put yourself in a good mood make sure you only wear it to social functions like parties, out with friends etc.. If you wearing it to places where this is little to no social interaction planned you may be dissapointed with the results. Some people have personalities that shine.. they are so confident they can talk to anyone anywhere… For those people I can see shine working even more. But for a guy like me who need context to talk I restrict not just IS but mones only to those times when I know I have context , like dinner out. parties .. etc. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 2:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/9 "2013-01-09T14:16:29Z")
Try just two shots to the hair. Wait one half hour. I apply one to your neck. Wait another half hour, and apply another. You’ll get best results in the company of a group of people over that time–indoors. At the point where you see effects, apply no more. Stop at two if it works. I don’t think you’re likely to see anything superior from 5 or 6, but others have. OR…hold onto what you have, get some AMMO, and use your remaining IShine as a buffer. Normally, about two shots is the buffer dose. ---
**Author:** ![nnightwingh10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@nnightwingh10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nnightwingh10)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/10 "2013-01-09T18:49:47Z")
thanks for all the help guys!! I had another question! I have IS, IO, AMMO, and TUTH. what should I use to get girls that know me more interested in me? ---
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2013, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/11 "2013-01-09T19:19:48Z")
Usually interest follows attraction. Thus some [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/). If they find you attractive they want to get to know you better. ---
**Author:** ![GetTheEdge](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gettheedge/32/1555_2.png) [@GetTheEdge](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GetTheEdge)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 3:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/12 "2013-01-10T03:44:58Z")
> [@nnightwingh10](#): > > thanks for all the help guys!! I had another question! I have IS, IO, AMMO, and TUTH. what should I use to get girls that know me more interested in me? Well you have a good combination of -mones for that purpose! I’ll leave it to someone else to make specific recommendations As you know TUTH is a sexual “turn up the heat” product, which can be good to use in the right social context to turn up the sexual heat with a woman who already knows you, i.e. you are able to lead things to a sexual arena using your social or PUA skills, and are beginning to get physical with her, and you apply some TUTH to yourself, and continue the physical escalation since I like IS so much I would probably always add a spray of IS to buffer the TUTH Now say you take a group of women who already know you clubbing, then Ammo + IS could be good for that Now say you are hanging out with one of the woman who already knows you, I would suggest you might like to see how a spray of Ammo + IS works Do you need IO? I’m sure you can research the effects of IO, helping get conversation going and chattyness, appearing friendly etc, so up to you if thats what would help with the women you know Say you are one on one with one of them women in your apartment, and she will be there for a while, try using a spray of IS + Ammo and if things start becoming sexually physical perhaps apply a spray of TUTH (buffered or not buffered with a topup spray of IS) What are other peoples thoughts on this advice? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/13 "2013-01-10T09:41:32Z")
Ammo and IO or maybe IO/IS would be my suggestion out of your selection - and wear them in an environment where you can be social/sexual and let your hair down. TUTH may be useful when you are getting very physical with someone but it would IMO probably still need socials to take the rawness off of it at your age and to help promote more than just feelings of hornyness. ---
**Author:** ![nnightwingh10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@nnightwingh10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nnightwingh10)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 10:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/14 "2013-01-10T10:04:31Z")
thanks for all the suggestions guys! and Don’t forget Im half asian and half caucasian, i heard that asians produced less pheromones, does that change anything? ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2013, 10:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/15 "2013-01-10T10:47:44Z")
> [@nnightwingh10](#): > > what should I use to get girls that know me more interested in me? IH . 2-3 sprays to the wrist, or 2 to the wrist and 1 to the neck. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-from-instant-shine/57793/16 "2013-06-17T00:12:09Z")
I noticed IS doesn’t do anything for me, but I noticed a behavior change toward others. Relatives who were silent around me were more upbeat & confident. Talked more & laughter. I will do more test.