# No effects yet from IS/A, Instant Shine and IO after two weeks: what now?

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**Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [August 24, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-yet-from-is-a-instant-shine-and-io-after-two-weeks-what-now/18137 "2008-08-24T03:45:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 3:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-yet-from-is-a-instant-shine-and-io-after-two-weeks-what-now/18137/1 "2008-08-24T03:45:00Z")

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Okay, I have been trying my first order of To go size products for a couple of weeks or so. I have IS/A, instant shine, instant openness, and a free sample of mx274.

I have been wearing either: IS/A, is, and io together (as this seems to be what many people do on the forum), or mx274 by itself, as I know nothing about it or what might work with it. I have worn the first mix to work each day this week, refreshing with an extra spray if instant shine midday. I have tried mx274 around the house, and out shopping a couple of times.

I haven’t really noticed any effects in other people’s behavior. My husband, co-workers, friends, strangers I interact with haven’t done or said anything that I would consider unusual or extra nice/special. No one has tried to flirt with me, and I haven’t gotten any “action” at home (unusual because there is usually quite a bit; maybe we’re in a lull of some kind). I also have not felt any self effects with the IS/b is io mixture, but possibly mx274 makes me feel good, once I got over an initial aversion to the scent.

The problem is my to go bottles are over half gone and I don’t know what I should try next, if anything. I’m thinking maybe I should try IS/B? I think dh probably would find “sex kitten” more attractive than “alpha female”, and honestly I am not an alpha type at all. So maybe the IS/A is sending conflicting messages from the rest of me. I’m just a little hesitant to plunk down the money for a large bottle when so far I haven’t noticed any effects of the other products.

FYI I’m friendly, well-liked, attractive, a healthy weight, and dress nice, so its not like there is something about me that should prevent the products from working.

Suggestions?

xev

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**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-yet-from-is-a-instant-shine-and-io-after-two-weeks-what-now/18137/2 "2008-08-24T12:53:13Z")

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How many sprays were you wearing? For instant sexiness I wear anywhere for 2-5.

A good way to evaluate if your husband reacts well to tah with out going for the full size bottle of [instant sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/) would be mx135(235) or the drive him crazy mixes mx108 and 109 that were just restocked recently. You might also be able to request instant sexiness b as your next bonus sample in the notes of your purchase.

This post by Tisha might also by useful to you. [How do I know if I am getting hits !!](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-know-if-i-am-getting-hits/14192)

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**Author:** ![Julia](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/julia/32/1388_2.png) [@Julia](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Julia)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-yet-from-is-a-instant-shine-and-io-after-two-weeks-what-now/18137/3 "2008-08-24T12:56:40Z")

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Hi Xev,

Maybe some light cops (Lust after me perhaps) for the hubby, also remember, takes awhile for people to get used to another signature. If you use IS/A (tal heavy) try and soften up with mx 135 (has tah), or tah. If you use IS/B try it with tal or mx 274 (tal heavy).

Usually women prefer tah or tal, middle of the road is probably safest.

Keeping Very low dosages and working up until you get reactions, believe me, hubby will notice.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 1:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-yet-from-is-a-instant-shine-and-io-after-two-weeks-what-now/18137/4 "2008-08-24T13:43:31Z")

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We need more information to help you on this.

How many sprays did you use ?

Where did you apply those sprays ?

How many times did you try each product individually ?

Most times the hit wont come directly at you, Its a change in the persons normal behavoir. Its hard with those close to us at first because they are conditioned to act a certain way and its takes repeated exposure to push them past that threshold.

You need to be able to read some body language with strangers and this can be learned.

I suggest we wipe the slate clean and start again using one product at a time and finding your correct dosage. So if you want write a post on each product and how you used it and we will break it down and try to help you get them working and give tips on what to expect.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 1:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-yet-from-is-a-instant-shine-and-io-after-two-weeks-what-now/18137/5 "2008-08-24T13:49:50Z")

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Thanks ladies. So, I’m curious, how do you know what the experimental mixes have in them (mx 108, 135, 274), etc. Is it a guess or what? The store doesn’t tell you what’s in these.

Anyway, if all this is correct, I have only been using TAL and have not tried anything with TAH in it.

To answer Inkling’s question, I started with 1 spray per product, and have worked up to 2. Yesterday I think I used 3 or 4 sprays of mx274.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 2:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-yet-from-is-a-instant-shine-and-io-after-two-weeks-what-now/18137/6 "2008-08-24T14:06:07Z")

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OK I can see part of the problem already,

I use 3 to 5 sprays of Instant Sexiness or I dont see much.

MX274 I use 3 sprays or more.

[Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) I wear 3 to 5 sprays and apply to my hair and neck for the best results. Hair is highly diffusive

Both TAL and TAH should work for you but genenrally we prefer one over the other because of how it effects us wearing it.

Only a few people know whats in the test mixes. I know whats in some of them but I wouldnt break the trust of Androtics by posting it. Some of the older mixes Jasmin or Michael have revealed some of what it in them in various posts.

If your unsure on a certain test mix you can always ask me and I will tell you what I can.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 2:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-yet-from-is-a-instant-shine-and-io-after-two-weeks-what-now/18137/7 "2008-08-24T14:11:22Z")

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Oh forgot to add.

MX108, all we know its that there are alot of copulins in them.

MX135 I was just chatting with the men on this one so this should help

> [@Just wondering can MX135 can be wear by men?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/just-wondering-can-mx135-can-be-wear-by-men/17859/18):
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> Just for your reading pleasure and to get you daring male testers caught up on MX135 From Jassy Here is when I asked her what was in it, she posted this. When I talked to her I asked about copulins and she said a smidge. So its should be safe for men to wear. When its in stock, get out there guys and start enjoying the chocolately goodness. Or for you cookie lovers try MX235 its the same formula different scent wink Tisha

MX274 has TAA and [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) in plus 4 or 5 other mones. TAA is what they use to make Ishine.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![xev](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xev/32/1993_2.png) [@xev](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xev)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 7:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-yet-from-is-a-instant-shine-and-io-after-two-weeks-what-now/18137/8 "2008-08-24T19:24:08Z")

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Thanks Tisha. I just ordered another IS/A, plus a mx108, a mx235 (135 is out of stock), and a “turn up the heat” to try on the husband. On the order comments, I said I would love to try a sample of IS/B, so maybe I will get lucky.

So, today and monday I will try 4 sprays of IS/A on the chest/neck area and nothing else and report back. Does this sound like a good plan?

xev

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-effects-yet-from-is-a-instant-shine-and-io-after-two-weeks-what-now/18137/9 "2008-08-24T20:45:37Z")

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Yep sounds good 😉

Let us know how you do. With IS/A, I see more friendly attention, some increased flirting, Increased eye contact. More glancing at me or more like I am noticed more the usual.

People talk to me a bit more, not as much as if I used IO but still a increase.

Sexually its very mild in intensity. Is designed more to attract then arouse.

Tisha
