# No hits after 3 days of MX425, IS and Ammo at 18: dosing advice for school

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [September 22, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491 "2011-09-22T20:26:02Z")\
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**Author:** ![gretzky17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@gretzky17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gretzky17)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491/1 "2011-09-22T20:26:02Z")

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Obviously I am making hasty invocations but I have been wearing pheros for 3 days now and haven’t seen any noticeable IOI.

I have worn 1x Mx425, 1x IS, 1x [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)  
2x of each  
1x of each but 3x IS

Mostly, every combination of those three but haven’t got any blatant hits and I am being fairly congruent with the mones.

Any suggestions, tips, to get more hits (I am 18 so I don’t think I need more)?

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**Author:** ![Korths](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/korths/32/718_2.png) [@Korths](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Korths)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491/2 "2011-09-22T20:48:07Z")

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Are you 18 or 21?  
Have you sweet-spot tested?

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**Author:** ![gretzky17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@gretzky17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gretzky17)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 9:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491/3 "2011-09-22T21:25:29Z")

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Yeah I am 18 - thought I might need to put 21 to register to forum - can’t change it back.

And no I haven’t sweet spot tested per se, but I doubt that I am using too little (2x Ammo, plus 3x IS)?

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**Author:** ![xjrayderx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/da6949/32.png) [@xjrayderx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xjrayderx)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491/4 "2011-09-22T21:28:50Z")

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Um quick question. Were did you use these at? what type of event?

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**Author:** ![gretzky17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@gretzky17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gretzky17)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491/5 "2011-09-22T21:39:03Z")

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To school.

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491/6 "2011-09-22T22:15:07Z")

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> [@gretzky17](#):
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> Yeah I am 18 - thought I might need to put 21 to register to forum - can’t change it back.
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> And no I haven’t sweet spot tested per se, but I doubt that I am using too little (2x Ammo, plus 3x IS)?

Sweet spot testing is for of course finding your sweet spot…but more importantly its about what you learn during that testing.

Because #1 you’ll be testing a product solo. So as you push the limits going from 1 spray, to 2, to 3 you will eventually see results…and you’ll know what kind of results to expect from that particular product.

for example if someone is giddy around you…that could be because of either one. Attraction can make someone laugh more etc. But if you had tested IS by itself, you would see that it doesn’t necessarily make someone just giddy, it can..but more importantly it helps to generate a nice sense of well being…uplifted mood.

Wearing both at the same time you won’t know where one ends and the other begins.

#2 Your ratios change depending upon the effects you desire.  
While you find that your solo sweet spot is 2=3 sprays of ammo, and 4-6 sprays of IS, those change when you start to layer them.

If you’re wanting to just be attractive in a general sense, your sweet spot for day wear might be 1 ammo, and 4 IS..but at night going to a party you might need 3 ammo, and only 2 of IS.

In the end, what this does is not only give you much better insight into the product that you’re using. You can sort of tailor them to fit the experiences you want to create and therefore use less if you can and save money.

Now as far as not seeing any hits. Oh you’re getting them…believe me. You just have to activate the ol’ reticular activation system and learn how to notice them.

You may have women you’re not interested in throwing themselves at you, but because you’re not interested, you’re not paying attention to them and therefore not seeing the “hits.”

Also attraction is such a subtle thing. People show their attraction in a variety of ways..and depending upon the context of the situation and the woman or man you have to add up a bunch of factors to figure out the whole story.

When they put you through a polygraph test, they first find a baseline. They ask you general questions that have nothing to do with what they really want to know..questions that they know with a 100% certainty whether they are true or not. That way they get a baseline on how you react during those questions…then they go into what they really wanna know.

You have to kind of do the same thing here. With people you know its so much easier. You know exactly how they treat you and behave around you and if something is out of the ordinary, you can see it.

With new people. The only thing you can do is first generalize and go by how you’re treated by people in general over a variety of life experiences.  
Then watch for IOI’s and their behavior around you and if you get like 1 IOI, its probably not an IOI just a habit or nervous tick. But if a woman is giving you like 4 or 5 out of the top 10, then yeah, she’s definitely showing some interest and you go from there.

Google Indicators of Interest…body language etc and learn what you should be looking for. You’ll start to see that you could be missing some very minor details…like a huge IOI I learned from Ross Jeffries is if you’re on a date with a girl and she’s pulled her feet up underneath her in the front seat of your car and her knees are pointing to you…she’s extremely comfortable…her guard is down and you can escalate from there…and yeah in my experience since learning that…FUCKING AWESOME!

So much to learn…the important thing is to remind yourself this is about fun…there are no mistakes only opportunities to learn.

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**Author:** ![XPX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/a587f6/32.png) [@XPX](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/XPX)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 10:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491/7 "2011-09-22T22:16:06Z")

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Your 18, I don’t don’t htink you should go higher with Ammo, lower would be better!

Try one spray! Three is really high for guys in your age!

Also for school I suggest you to go with IG! It’s much better at your age and for young girls and even better for school and daytime activities!

Use Ammo for party!

Also test your sweet spot and learn how to work with mones! You can’t expect to spray it on and you rock! Many members here including me needed years of learing to get really awesome mixes which suits to you! Everymone has different effects and makes different hits, first find out how Ammo hits, you have to be sensitive it’s not Axe 😃

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**Author:** ![gretzky17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@gretzky17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gretzky17)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491/8 "2011-09-22T22:20:38Z")

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Okay guys I am gonna try 1x Ammo, 3x IS and try and look for hits. Maybe its the venue that isn’t right.

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**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 11:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491/9 "2011-09-22T23:00:08Z")

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> [@gretzky17](#):
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> Okay guys I am gonna try 1x Ammo, 3x IS and try and look for hits. Maybe its the venue that isn’t right.

LOL NO… just try 1 spray of ammo so you can see the results by itself. Then move up to 2…then 3 until you either see an adverse reaction or NOTHING again…sometimes NOTHING means you’re getting ghosted. its an overpowering or scary signal and people just ignore or avoid you.

Then once you get that down and find out if you need 1 or 2 sprays etc…then try IS the same way. 1 spray…2 then 3 etc..so you can see how that works by itself.

Believe me…IS alone is plenty to get you laid so don’t worry about rushing into it balls to the wall. We all did..but now is the time for fine tuning your targetting versus spray and pray.

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**Author:** ![gretzky17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@gretzky17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gretzky17)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491/10 "2011-09-22T23:03:27Z")

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Okay I will try it by itself and record the results… should I wear Polo Black as cover scent or not?

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**Author:** ![ochrismongrelo](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ochrismongrelo/32/318_2.png) [@ochrismongrelo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ochrismongrelo)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491/11 "2011-09-23T00:41:10Z")

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> [@gretzky17](#):
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> Okay I will try it by itself and record the results… should I wear Polo Black as cover scent or not?

I wouldn’t recommend it… it can potentially mess up the diffusion of the molecules, which you want to be diffusing perfectly!

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**Author:** ![gretzky17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@gretzky17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gretzky17)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-3-days-of-mx425-is-and-ammo-at-18-dosing-advice-for-school/52491/12 "2011-09-23T00:58:01Z")

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Lol maybe that is my problem - I have yet to use without a cover scent.
