# No hits after three weeks with A314, TUTH, Chikara and others: what am I missing? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 28, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-three-weeks-with-a314-tuth-chikara-and-others-what-am-i-missing/57979 "2013-01-28T19:27:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 6
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-three-weeks-with-a314-tuth-chikara-and-others-what-am-i-missing/57979/6 "2013-01-29T01:34:21Z")
> [@dsalinas903](#): > > Well I’ve used 2 daps of a314 one on each side of my neck and a spary of tuth on my chest,what are you using with chikara??? And how much??? Daps? Do you mean drops or dabs? Also, what was the age range of the women in the club - IME A314/TUTH works best on 30+ women and can repel younger ones due to its very high status and overt sexuality. The A314 needs to be high-dose relative to your normal sweet spot - I usually work in the 4-6 drops range, compared to 2-3 (mostly 2) for a workday dose. TUTH on your chest - on a 31 year-old? That is a tactic much younger guys (16-21 typically) use to inhibit diffusion. By your age, you can easily handle more overt signatures and frankly, by your 30s one spary in a club environment is often not enough - unless you are using TUTH as an enhancing/steering phero. Neck application is good for A314 but neck/throat is also good for TUTH - Just remember to keep your oil and spray points apart. Sprays can be layered over each other ok but spraying over oil (or vice versa) can mess-up diffusion. See this thread for more ideas on app points: > [@Application points 101: a guide to where on the body to apply pheromones](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101/53343): > > Originally found here: [Application points 101: chest, neck and ears, and taming -none products under a shirt](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101/52170) Application Points 101 You gesture your hand with precision, moving across the audiences olfactory senses, with every calculated move, you enhance their senses and draw them in. You smile as you move around the room, trailing behind you the scent, people look around and spot you, from the corner of your eye, you spot a women, possibly of your dreams for that night. You draw her in wit… But don’t get too hung-up on them - so long as it has good circulation and is open to the air to diffuse, all is good. Also A314/SOE - SOE is mainly Alphanol, which can weaken A314 badly - to the point where I find that wearing the two together is a waste of both products. Also, dosing SOE can be difficullt, so how much are you using. MAG - that is a difficult phero at the best of times, due to its high unsteered Androstenone content. SOE or Chikara would be the obvious moderators here and in quite hefty doses but it would still remain a club/party phero due to its overtness. I don’t know the other one well enough to comment. Lastly, have you attempted to find your sweet spot with any of them? Have a look at the “Sweet Spot Guide” in this thread, then follow it **for each phero individually**. Although saying that, TUTH and MAG will be more difficult to evaluate as their overt sexuality does limit them somewhat. > [@An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003): > > Welcome to an exciting world of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). By joining our community you have taken a HUGE step in progressing a science that is cutting edge and still in its infancy. This community is globally important in recognizing pheromones, and Neuroinfluence Technology ? and their impact on human communication. There are thousands of posts here and thousands more users. Each one of us, including you, adds a unique dynamic to the community from our individual perspectives, experiences and our research an… And lastly, if you are around Hispanic women, you generally need to use a more overt (higher Androstenone) signature compared to more Central/Northern European types but social/status steering is still important. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-after-three-weeks-with-a314-tuth-chikara-and-others-what-am-i-missing/57979)._