# No hits with TUTH and Ammo, out of IO and IH: what should I try next? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 4, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-with-tuth-and-ammo-out-of-io-and-ih-what-should-i-try-next/31282 "2009-08-04T04:05:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mikeb4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeb4/32/1254_2.png) [@mikeb4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikeb4)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 4:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-with-tuth-and-ammo-out-of-io-and-ih-what-should-i-try-next/31282/1 "2009-08-04T04:05:29Z")
I sometimes off and on mix TUTH and Ammo but I never get any hits, I can’t say I got a hit this past weekend with the two because I wore a suit for the first time in almost a year.. I mean I had like 40 people tell me they were shocked and one female touched me but she’s like that with or without wearing mones.. I’m all out of [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) and Honesty not too sure what to do next. ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 4:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-with-tuth-and-ammo-out-of-io-and-ih-what-should-i-try-next/31282/2 "2009-08-04T04:45:31Z")
Interesting, in that case, I have a ‘few’ questions. -Where have your application points been when testing? -How many sprays have you uses thus far of each product and what were your testing methods? -What environment have you been testing in, work, clubs, with those whom you’re already intimately acquainted, ect? -How frequently do you use [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/)? -How long have you been having response issues? I could add more, but I’ll try not to overwhelm you. 😛🙄 These should help determine any issues present. 🙂 M,L, Dominick > [@mikeb4](#): > > I sometimes off and on mix TUTH and Ammo but I never get any hits, I can’t say I got a hit this past weekend with the two because I wore a suit for the first time in almost a year.. I mean I had like 40 people tell me they were shocked and one female touched me but she’s like that with or without wearing mones.. > > I’m all out of Instant Openness and Honesty not too sure what to do next. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 4:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-with-tuth-and-ammo-out-of-io-and-ih-what-should-i-try-next/31282/3 "2009-08-04T04:49:08Z")
IG or A314 I think you will benefit from it immensilly. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mikeb4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeb4/32/1254_2.png) [@mikeb4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikeb4)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-with-tuth-and-ammo-out-of-io-and-ih-what-should-i-try-next/31282/4 "2009-08-04T04:57:00Z")
> [@Domnk](#): > > Interesting, in that case, I have a ‘few’ questions. > > -Where have your application points been when testing? > > to the wrist and rub them together & back of neck > > -How many sprays have you uses thus far of each product and what were your testing methods? > > one spray to the wrist and one to the back of the neck or to the chest > > -What environment have you been testing in, work, clubs, with those whom you’re already intimately acquainted, ect? > > Work but I already know the people.. but I don’t have any attraction to them. > > -How frequently do you use pheromones? > > Off and on when I think about it.. Because I’ve had no hits I may go two weeks without it > > -How long have you been having response issues? > > For about 3 months now but that could be due to me not putting them on each day. > > I could add more, but I’ll try not to overwhelm you. 😛🙄 > These should help determine any issues present. 🙂 > > M,L, > Dominick This should help ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-with-tuth-and-ammo-out-of-io-and-ih-what-should-i-try-next/31282/5 "2009-08-04T05:25:23Z")
> [@mikeb4](#): > > -Where have your application points been when testing? > > to the wrist and rub them together & back of neck > [@mikeb4](#): > > -What environment have you been testing in, work, clubs, with those whom you’re already intimately acquainted, ect? > > Work but I already know the people.. but I don’t have any attraction to them. When going to work, do you wear dress shirts alot? Often dress shirts cover your wrists and a large portion of the back of your neck as well, this disrupts the diffusion, I’ve found. > [@mikeb4](#): > > -How many sprays have you uses thus far of each product and what were your testing methods? > > one spray to the wrist and one to the back of the neck or to the chest Sorry, misprinted my question, I meant do youadd more and more sprays when using one product at a time, starting at one spray? And how long after you apply do you interact with those whom you test on? Oh, and when applying to the chest, diffusion is very much disrupted, the cloth can be a big issue. > [@mikeb4](#): > > -How frequently do you use pheromones? > > Off and on when I think about it.. Because I’ve had no hits I may go two weeks without it Well, people you know become acclimated to your signature over time, so it can take some continuous testing to remove that conditioning, and have them accept your pheromone signature as malleable. > [@mikeb4](#): > > -How long have you been having response issues? > > For about 3 months now but that could be due to me not putting them on each day. Did you have issues prior to 3 months ago, or is that when you first started using pheromones (ie, have you ever received ‘hits’ when using any of the pheromone products)? M,L, Dominick ---
**Author:** ![mikeb4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeb4/32/1254_2.png) [@mikeb4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikeb4)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 5:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-with-tuth-and-ammo-out-of-io-and-ih-what-should-i-try-next/31282/6 "2009-08-04T05:35:16Z")
> [@Domnk](#): > > When going to work, do you wear dress shirts alot? Often dress shirts cover your wrists and a large portion of the back of your neck as well, this disrupts the diffusion, I’ve found. > > Sorry, misprinted my question, I meant do youadd more and more sprays when using one product at a time, starting at one spray? And how long after you apply do you interact with those whom you test on? > > Oh, and when applying to the chest, diffusion is very much disrupted, the cloth can be a big issue. > > Well, people you know become acclimated to your signature over time, so it can take some continuous testing to remove that conditioning, and have them accept your pheromone signature as malleable. > > Did you have issues prior to 3 months ago, or is that when you first started using pheromones (ie, have you ever received ‘hits’ when using any of the pheromone products)? > > M,L, > Dominick I wear short sleeve shirts all the time at work And no I only add one spray of each when using them. I’ve had my pheromones for over 6 months.. I started back in Feb. 09 ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 5:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-with-tuth-and-ammo-out-of-io-and-ih-what-should-i-try-next/31282/7 "2009-08-04T05:41:29Z")
> [@mikeb4](#): > > I wear short sleeve shirts all the time at work And no I only add one spray of each when using them. > > I’ve had my pheromones for over 6 months.. I started back in Feb. 09 So, you haven’t been increasing the dose until you OD? This is a great method, because then when you do finally overdose you just have to decrease the sprays to just before the overdose, and you find your ‘sweet spot’ or in other words, your ideal dose to illicit better recognizable responses 🙂. Have you ever noted any reactions to the pheromones you wore, in that time, from others? ---
**Author:** ![mikeb4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikeb4/32/1254_2.png) [@mikeb4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikeb4)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 5:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-with-tuth-and-ammo-out-of-io-and-ih-what-should-i-try-next/31282/8 "2009-08-04T05:57:30Z")
> [@Domnk](#): > > So, you haven’t been increasing the dose until you OD? This is a great method, because then when you do finally overdose you just have to decrease the sprays to just before the overdose, and you find your ‘sweet spot’ or in other words, your ideal dose to illicit better recognizable responses 🙂. > > Have you ever noted any reactions to the pheromones you wore, in that time, from others? No have not OD and reactions do you mean reactions to TUTH and AMMO? only hit I ever got was Instant openess on the first day I had it on lady was like a chatter box at the train station. ---
**Author:** ![Domnk](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/domnk/32/2269_2.png) [@Domnk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Domnk)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2009, 6:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-with-tuth-and-ammo-out-of-io-and-ih-what-should-i-try-next/31282/9 "2009-08-04T06:09:47Z")
> [@mikeb4](#): > > No have not OD and reactions do you mean reactions to TUTH and AMMO? Not specifically, I meant _any_ positive or negative reaction to _any_ of the pheromones you have worn so far. You seem to answer this in your next question though. So, just one hit over the entire 6 months, from all the pheromones you’ve used, just one time, just one product worked for you? > [@mikeb4](#): > > only hit I ever got was Instant openess on the first day I had it on lady was like a chatter box at the train station. Did you continue that dosage and the same application points, as you did wore it during that ‘hit’, with IOpenness after that?