# No hits yet from A314, IS, IH, IO and Turn Up The Heat: what am I doing wrong? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 31, 2009, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429 "2009-05-31T11:35:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DESTINY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@DESTINY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DESTINY)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/1 "2009-05-31T11:35:09Z")
i had tried a314, IS,IH,IO AND TURN UP THE HEAT but no hots till now… really i don;t understan what to do… now i doubt that phero work or not…any help… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/2 "2009-05-31T11:43:43Z")
Well you have to help us help you. We cant tell you if your doing something wrong if you don’t tell us what you did and what happened. How much did you use ? Where did you apply it ? What types of environment did you use them in ? Did you test them by themselves or did you layer ? How many times did you try each one ? Did you work on your dosage ? Are you expectations in line with what mones do ( Read what mones can do and what they cant do in my signature below) Were you congruent with the vibe meaning when using IO did you use body language that indicated you were open to conversation and approach or did you sit in a corner and not make any eye contact with people who were looking at you. Read this post\>\>\>\>\> > [@Congruence? What's That?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/congruence-whats-that/9805): > > What is congruency? We talk about this alot but do we really do a good job of explaining it to a newbie? Do we really understand what goes into congruency ourselves? I looked up an array of definitions to find one that matched my idea of congruent/congruous/congruence. There is the purely mathematical “congruent figures have the exact same size and shape”. Then there is the more legalizish “Congruence is the degree of match between two codes”. My favorite is “Agreement of character (parameter)”. … Mones do work they just wont do all the work for you. They open the door of opportunity and you still have to walk though that door. If you can give us more info we can help you with some tips and point out if you did anything wrong 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 1:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/3 "2009-05-31T13:01:04Z")
Like Tisha said, we are all here to do what we can to help you make sense of what’s happening but we gotta know what you are doing. Start with whichever one you used the most so far and tell us about how much you used, where you were, what you were doing and who was around you…it helps a lot if you used it several times and can tell us about the different times too. ---
**Author:** ![gitsmw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@gitsmw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gitsmw)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 7:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/4 "2009-05-31T19:35:28Z")
Don’t expect women to make the first move. ---
**Author:** ![DESTINY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@DESTINY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DESTINY)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 8:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/5 "2009-05-31T20:40:15Z")
ok here it goes… i was sitting with my sisters friend in living room and she was just 2 metre away…from me i used 2 spray of instant honesty on my neck 2 spray of instant oppeness on my wrist 1 spray of instant shine on my chest and 1 spray of turn up the heat behinde my neck so i started talking to her and it was going normal as usal. no eye contact or anything unsual… any help… how much should i apply next time. ---
**Author:** ![DESTINY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@DESTINY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DESTINY)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/6 "2009-05-31T20:42:22Z")
one more thing… my age is 37 ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/7 "2009-05-31T20:50:13Z")
> [@DESTINY](#): > > ok here it goes… i was sitting with my sisters friend in living room and she was just 2 metre away…from me I’m not sure this is really about the amount of phero’s you used… She’s _your sisters friend_ 🙂 Obviously I can’t speak for all women, but there’s no way I’d hit on my brothers mate no matter how hot he was sitting there chatting to me in the livingroom… It’s sometimes hard to test phero’s in situations where people are unlikely to just go with the flow… It’s sometimes just not socially acceptable to respond to whatever “urge” you might feel. A sisters friend is unlikely to show you that she finds you attractive…co-workers may also be a bit tricky sometimes as it’s just not acceptable to act on the phero message in the work setting and most people do have self control 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![kokos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kokos/32/874_2.png) [@kokos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kokos)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/8 "2009-05-31T20:51:53Z")
People that know you and are ofter near you are used to your [pheromone](https://a314.com/) signature, so i wouldn’t expect any hits from them. Hits are subtle at most and you have to kind of look for them to know that you are getting them. They might be as simple as a look from the girl having her coffee on the next table, or a smile. try using a product everyday for a week and then stop using it for a few days and look for differences in how people react to you ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 10:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/9 "2009-05-31T22:10:01Z")
Hey DESTINY, I think Kokos and Xiphoid are right. First, you need to start with just one product at a time. Now just about all of us started just the way you did with a spray of this and 2 sprays of that. Just about all of us got the same results you did…nada. No problem, we even have a name for it ‘phero-baptism’. LOL Think about it like a DJ mixing some tunes. If he knows what he’s doing he can take a riff from this song and a sample from the next and throw in a drum track and make good music. It very different from just turning on three radios tuned to different stations and trying to adjust the volume. Get to know each one. It may take a week or two for each one. You may not even see anything then. I’ll bet though if everytime you run into your sister’s friend this week you are wearing IH and then each time you see her next week you are wearing IO, at some point she’ll say something to your sister about how easy you are to talk to. That’s called the grapevine, what people are saying about you. It’s a much better guide than what people are saying to you. Have fun and keep trying! ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 10:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/10 "2009-05-31T22:18:38Z")
I still don’t get it why new users can’t and don’t understand that [pheromones](https://a314.com/) DON’T work on command all the time, and that they WON’T make just ANY girl eye you or be all over you like in the movies. It seems like you sprayed on your products and seemed to think that they’d get the girl all into you just like that (by just spraying them.) That won’t happen, you do get attention with pheromones after spraying them, but they’d have to be into you subconsciously (and/or consciously) too though. > [@DESTINY](#): > > ok here it goes… i was sitting with my sisters friend in living room and she was just 2 metre away…from me > > i used 2 spray of instant honesty on my neck > 2 spray of instant oppeness on my wrist > 1 spray of instant shine on my chest > and 1 spray of turn up the heat behinde my neck > > so i started talking to her and it was going normal as usal. no eye contact or anything unsual… > > any help… how much should i apply next time. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/11 "2009-05-31T22:50:37Z")
> [@mikotorocks714](#): > > I still don’t get it why new users can’t and don’t understand that pheromones DON’T work on command all the time, and that they WON’T make just ANY girl eye you or be all over you like in the movies. It seems like you sprayed on your products and seemed to think that they’d get the girl all into you just like that (by just spraying them.) That won’t happen, you do get attention with pheromones after spraying them, but they’d have to be into you subconsciously (and/or consciously) too though. It’s those damned Ax commercials.😮 Even though when you see one you laugh at how silly it is, the fantasy is enticing. The walls of my shop are covered with pictures of smiling guys and girls with big trout. The fact that most of them are once in a season (sometimes once in a lifetime) thrills by guys and girls who have been fishing awhile, doesn’t register with the guy on his first fishing trip. He just sees himself in the picture. A little practice though and the right lure…bammo he can get on the wall with his own thrill. Pheromones ain’t too much different. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [May 31, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/12 "2009-05-31T23:49:42Z")
True renny, I can see how pictures like that (and ads as well) can help to inspire and make you reach for that still _possible_ goal even though it may be once in a great while. It helps boost morale, and helps keep you trucking. > [@renny](#): > > It’s those damned Ax commercials.😮 Even though when you see one you laugh at how silly it is, the fantasy is enticing. The walls of my shop are covered with pictures of smiling guys and girls with big trout. The fact that most of them are once in a season (sometimes once in a lifetime) thrills by guys and girls who have been fishing awhile, doesn’t register with the guy on his first fishing trip. He just sees himself in the picture. > > A little practice though and the right lure…bammo he can get on the wall with his own thrill. Pheromones ain’t too much different. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/13 "2009-06-01T00:25:09Z")
Well, the Ax commercial is like a fake picture, I’ve got a great one of a catfish on a flatbed Tonka truck. Looks like the fish is hanging off both ends of a tractor trailer! It’s just for fun like the Ax commercials are supposed to be. It’s an obvious exaggeration like the Ax commercials. And it plants the subliminal that “it could happen” just like the Ax commercial does. Nobody really believes that that catfish really exists, but in our sexualized culture I think maybe people really do believe that there is a spray that will cause women to fall at the users feet. Some of them come here and we just have to smile and say “no, it doesn’t exist. If you’ll put in some work though we can help you be a better fisherman and we know what lures do work for real fish. Of course it’s 10% the lure and 90% the fisherman.” Sorry about the hijack DESTINY. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 3:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/14 "2009-06-01T03:15:29Z")
> [@](#): > > ok here it goes… i was sitting with my sisters friend in living room and she was just 2 metre away…from me > > i used 2 spray of instant honesty on my neck > 2 spray of instant oppeness on my wrist > 1 spray of instant shine on my chest > and 1 spray of turn up the heat behinde my neck > > so i started talking to her and it was going normal as usal. no eye contact or anything unsual… > > any help… how much should i apply next time Ok first you need to find your dosage for each product. So you should be using one at a time. Next you need to read “what mones can do and what they cant do” The link is located in my signature below. For 37 your using a low amount of each product. I know you see everyone layering but you would have better results with using 1 or 2 products at a higher dosage. Then once you have those down and see the results move on to more. Now for TUTH, Its been said time and again this is for a sexual atmosphere or with someone who has a comfort level and attraction to you already. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) would pull her attention to you more then TUTH. Also while wrists are a pulse point, I have never found them to be the best application point. So go back to the beginning and find your dosages then go to layering. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![DESTINY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@DESTINY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DESTINY)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 10:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/15 "2009-06-01T10:57:42Z")
Thanks for the reply tisha, so can u please suggest me how much spary should i use ? as my age is 37. tisha i am also looking for instant femal majic but it seems its out of stock. any idea when it will be available. ---
**Author:** ![DESTINY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@DESTINY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DESTINY)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 11:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/16 "2009-06-01T11:22:28Z")
tisha what other good product u can suggest me. ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 12:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/17 "2009-06-01T12:14:53Z")
> [@DESTINY](#): > > Thanks for the reply tisha, > so can u please suggest me how much spary should i use ? as my age is 37. The actual number of sprays is individual Destiny, we can’t tell you how many. Age does make a difference in that you are likely to need more but we can’t tell you how much. You have to try different doses and find the one that’s right for you. Try _each phero on it’s own_ to find the best dose for you for each phero… _Then_ you can try and combine several phero’s 🙂 So if you didn’t notice anything with 2 sprays, try 3 sprays for a few days. If that’s not doing anything, try 4 sprays… Oh, and don’t forget to read the sticky’s and the links in Tisha’s profile, they’ll give you lots of useful info 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![DESTINY](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/59ef9b/32.png) [@DESTINY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DESTINY)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/18 "2009-06-01T19:41:29Z")
hey thank you very much for ur reply… i think i am getting the idea now.. i;ll try as u said already started with 1 spar now i;ll increase as requried… hope i get hits 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [June 1, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-hits-yet-from-a314-is-ih-io-and-turn-up-the-heat-what-am-i-doing-wrong/29429/19 "2009-06-01T20:59:36Z")
You will DESTINY, it just takes some patience, practice, and good attention skills. But in the end, it’s worth it. Just make sure to REALLY pay attention to things that “don’t” seem to fit. Like eyeing that you haven’t noticed before, or different female flirting things like hair twirling and flirtatious smiles. I know just one spray sounds like very little, but sometimes believe it or not that’s all it takes. So as mentioned start with just one spray of just one product, while paying real close attention. If you don’t notice anything after a few days then add two. If say you spray on one spray of TUTH in the morning, but end up seeing someone after a few hours I suggest completely washing off the first application with Witch Hazel or a simple good scrubbing then spraying on another spray of TUTH so it can be fresh and potent. That way it’ll still be just one spray you’re using and not an additional spray to equal two. > [@DESTINY](#): > > hey thank you very much for ur reply… i think i am getting the idea now.. i;ll try as u said already started with 1 spar now i;ll increase as requried… hope i get hits 🆒