# No luck with women, but attractive and confident. Which product to try? **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [November 23, 2006, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937 "2006-11-23T00:15:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Crocodile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Crocodile](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crocodile)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/1 "2006-11-23T00:15:17Z")
Hi, I was reserching about pherlure when I found on this forum. After reading the posts for a hour or two I made myself a member. Although I still don’t know much about pheromones I definatly want to try one. I’m not very lucky in atractting women although my female friends say I´m hot. I’m 1,85m, fit and i’m pretty confident. Which is the best [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) for someone like me? ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/2 "2006-11-23T00:27:23Z")
> [@Crocodile](#): > > Hi, I was reserching about pherlure when I found on this forum. After reading the posts for a hour or two I made myself a member. Although I still don’t know much about pheromones I definatly want to try one. > I’m not very lucky in atractting women although my female friends say I´m hot. I’m 1,85m, fit and i’m pretty confident. Which is the best pheromone product for someone like me? Ammunition. a hot guy that is unlucky sounds like he might be high in androstenone… anyone else thinking this? ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 1:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/3 "2006-11-23T01:32:56Z")
> [@Crocodile](#): > > Hi, I was reserching about pherlure when I found on this forum. After reading the posts for a hour or two I made myself a member. Although I still don’t know much about pheromones I definatly want to try one. > I’m not very lucky in atractting women although my female friends say I´m hot. I’m 1,85m, fit and i’m pretty confident. Which is the best pheromone product for someone like me? Hey Crocodile, welcome to the forum! You say you have trouble attracting women. How would you rate your social skills? You say you are confident, do you approach women when they give you any sign of interest? Hot confident man can be intimidating too to many women just like hot confident women are to most men. Maybe you are intimidating. Do you come across as friendly or are you the serious type? Are you the life of the party or a wallflower? Many things matter. Let us know your blood group too, there might be some connection to the natural [pheromones](https://a314.com/) you secrete. I agree with Lor, Ammunition is a great first product for any newbie. Great for generating attraction without being overbearing. After you tell us more about yourself we can give you better suggestions. Then it mostly depends on your personal experimentation with different products to find which one suits your body chemsitry and your requirements. ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/4 "2006-11-23T01:34:37Z")
> [@Lor](#): > > Ammunition. > > a hot guy that is unlucky sounds like he might be high in androstenone… anyone else thinking this? If he’s high in -none I might aim for a314, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), type products. Something to “temper” the -none effects. Dealng with “Clint Eastwood Effect” (“CEE”) here??? Maybe? We might be needing some more info about the person in question. . ---
**Author:** ![sleekll](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sleekll/32/946_2.png) [@sleekll](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sleekll)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/5 "2006-11-23T03:14:48Z")
What exactly is this Clint Eastwood effect I keep hearing of? ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2006, 3:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/6 "2006-11-23T03:29:18Z")
> [@Crocodile](#): > > Hi, I was reserching about pherlure when I found on this forum. After reading the posts for a hour or two I made myself a member. Although I still don’t know much about pheromones I definatly want to try one. > I’m not very lucky in atractting women although my female friends say I´m hot. I’m 1,85m, fit and i’m pretty confident. Which is the best pheromone product for someone like me? Welcome aboard! Don’t hesitate to ask…there’re many good friends here who will guide you thru…God bless you. Mohammad 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Crocodile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Crocodile](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crocodile)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/7 "2006-11-27T17:28:34Z")
Thanks for all the reply’s. I’ve choose ammunition. I’l tell you later about the results. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2006, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/8 "2006-11-27T23:56:51Z")
> [@sleekll](#): > > What exactly is this Clint Eastwood effect I keep hearing of? Ever see “A Fist Full of Dollars” or “The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly”?? AKA “The Lone Wolf Effect”. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 7:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/9 "2006-11-28T07:57:49Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Ever see “A Fist Full of Dollars” or “The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly”?? > > AKA “The Lone Wolf Effect”. Maybe calling it the “Clint Eastwood Effect” overglamorizes what is essentially a social handicap. I think “Lone Wolf Effect” like Jim writes is a more apt description. I mean Clint Eastwood was a pure alpha male in those movies (I am assuming they are some of his ‘typical’ movies). Sure, he played characters who were completely unapproachable in those movies, but he was dominant and sexy. Some women (probably many) would have been attracted to his raw masculinity, no question. I think the problem that a lot of guys have (including me to some extent) is they have a lot of the negative qualities of the characters Clint played (complete unapproachability, stern face, not someone people feel comfortable socialising with, etc) but none or very few of the positives (such as alpha male attitude, confidence, charisma, power, fearlessness/bravery, etc.). Visionary ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2006, 7:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/10 "2006-11-28T19:17:39Z")
> [@](#): > > I am assuming they are some of his ‘typical’ movies Then there was “Every Which Way But Loose”,(“Right turn, Clyde”) and we won’t even go into “The Bridges of Madison County”!😮 ---
**Author:** ![Crocodile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/47e85d/32.png) [@Crocodile](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crocodile)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 9:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/11 "2006-12-20T21:39:18Z")
First results with ammunition: I didn´t notice that many changes around women, but I did notice that all the men close to me started to snize. A few guys in the classroom and a man that sat beside me at the bus. I used 4 sprays of ammunition, 1 on the back of the neck, 1 on each wrist and in the end I sprayed my hair. Thinking of using only two (seems to work for catlord). ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2006, 9:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/12 "2006-12-20T21:52:16Z")
Hi Crocodile! welcome. I haven’t smelled Ammunition but knowing that it’s a cologne, I think it’s quite possible that you were simply wearing a lot of scent and that’s what the sneezing was about. Four sprays of some colognes will be too much for a lot of people, especially in a closed environment like a bus or classroom. I think you’re right about trying it with only 2 sprays next time. Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/13 "2006-12-21T00:27:41Z")
I tried about 2-3 sprays of ToGo [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (which is supposedly about 80% of the spray of the standard bottle) and found the scent pretty strong. Still smelled it where it got on my undershirt a good 12 hours later. Weak, but there. If I recall Lor had a sneezing problem with others around her but I don’t recall what product seh was using at the time. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2006, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-luck-with-women-but-attractive-and-confident-which-product-to-try/937/14 "2006-12-21T01:54:40Z")
> [@Crocodile](#): > > Hi, I was reserching about pherlure when I found on this forum. After reading the posts for a hour or two I made myself a member. Although I still don’t know much about pheromones I definatly want to try one. > I’m not very lucky in atractting women although my female friends say I´m hot. I’m 1,85m, fit and i’m pretty confident. Which is the best pheromone product for someone like me? Had the same problem at one time. IFM + IShine worked wonders. You may want to go with IFM and TAA oil (which wasnt on the market at the time)