# No results at 15 with Instant Shine, TUTH and Ammo: advice on what to use

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [May 18, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-15-with-instant-shine-tuth-and-ammo-advice-on-what-to-use/38709 "2010-05-18T23:43:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 1:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-15-with-instant-shine-tuth-and-ammo-advice-on-what-to-use/38709/21 "2010-05-19T13:29:54Z")

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> [@renny](#):
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> Hey young Padawan, first thing is you need to lighten up on yourself! You are 15! No one expects you to have a mastery of body language or anything else. Give yourself a chance. Simply spend time each day talking to people. I’m no expert on asperger’s but I do know that you can use it as an excuse or you can work to overcome whatever limitations it places on you. Try taking a simple high school drama class. You’ll learn tons of info about body language and probably make some new friends at the same time.

True shit right there. Pheromones are no magic but what they can do at their best is compound on each other. Ie, a girl flirts with you more, it gives you more confidence, they respond to the confidence, and the cycle continues.  
If you have AS I would say go for IS+IH to start with to increase conversation. Try and stay away from TUTH. The more androstenol in your mixes as a general rule the better. I think you might be getting some interest that you are having trouble discerning, so while you learn about body language, there is another thing you might want to try.  
Assume interest. Don’t assume they are in love with you, but assume and proceed as if you have their interest. You lose nothing by it and you will act more confident which can persuade them to HAVE more interest in you. It’s made a big difference for me.

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**Author:** ![phillykid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@phillykid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phillykid)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 3:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-15-with-instant-shine-tuth-and-ammo-advice-on-what-to-use/38709/22 "2010-05-19T15:22:56Z")

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**Pheromones are like nice shirts… it is still 90% YOU.** Like others who have said, you are only 15! Stay away from -none based products and put on 1-2 sprays of IO, IH, IS, and relax – be social and smile often. I remember back when I was your age, girls are so much easier… just be interested and listen… you’ll be their best friend in no time (esp. when you have IH). Don’t be afraid to disapprove and argue… in fact, the cuter the girl, the more often you should dis her (lightly). The trick is to be close (at least appears to be close) with as many of the cute girls in your social circle as possible, and brand yourself as a prize that is very “difficult to get”. Don’t brag when you close a girl and let the social proof works its magic. My 2 cents.

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**Author:** ![Bjorn89](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/94ad74/32.png) [@Bjorn89](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bjorn89)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 5:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-15-with-instant-shine-tuth-and-ammo-advice-on-what-to-use/38709/23 "2010-05-19T17:46:39Z")

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> [@boboa48](#):
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> and it just so happens I happen to have aspergers syndrome so basically i cant do this body language stuff…
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> so im basically \*\*\*\* out of luck

Hello boboa,

I’ve ASS aswell, not Asperger syndrome. How-ever YOU can be EMPATHIC and read BODYLANGUAGE.

The only difference between us and the rest is for us it’s not a “feeling”, we learn it by observing and it uses more of a cognitive function(we’re not that quick on our feet to feel or respond) but we compensate it with our thinking. Our path is less easy then the rest on these area’s. It takes just a bit longer, and a bit more effort.

Start at observing people, begin to understand social interactions. Try to get some close friends.

The biggest problem we have, is not being able to talk OUTSIDE our own interests, train that and you’ll be a long way on the right path.

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**Author:** ![boboa48](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boboa48/32/1846_2.png) [@boboa48](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/boboa48)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-15-with-instant-shine-tuth-and-ammo-advice-on-what-to-use/38709/24 "2010-05-19T20:02:55Z")

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When I was picturing the pheremones I was seeing that one axe commercial were all the girls atack that one dude…

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**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-15-with-instant-shine-tuth-and-ammo-advice-on-what-to-use/38709/25 "2010-05-19T23:13:24Z")

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Ahh, the axe effect. if only. if only.  
the only way to get that effect is to put axe and pheromones on justin bieber and put him in the middle of a hot-high-school-girl-convention

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**Author:** ![hercs63](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8c91f0/32.png) [@hercs63](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hercs63)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 11:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-15-with-instant-shine-tuth-and-ammo-advice-on-what-to-use/38709/26 "2010-05-19T23:33:52Z")

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Phermones are not like superman pills, where 1 spray, you turn into Brad Pitt, etc.

IMO, I just think your a bit young to try 'mones to use to it’s maximum effect, even if a girl was eyeing you up you may not even notice at your age.

The most noticeable hits you see is when you go to a bar or a club, i have experimented when I had go to the same bar without 'mones I seemed just another guy in the crowd, whereas when i do go to the same place with 'mones, my attitude somehow seems to be more confident & girls somehow notice me more & am more turned on to me, on both experiments I even wore the same clothing so it’s not as though I dressed better or stood out more.

I can only suggest that when your old enough to go to a bar or club then use the 'mones & can bet you notice the difference,

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**Author:** ![boboa48](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/boboa48/32/1846_2.png) [@boboa48](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/boboa48)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-15-with-instant-shine-tuth-and-ammo-advice-on-what-to-use/38709/27 "2010-05-20T01:26:34Z")

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> [@Razorpowell](#):
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> Ahh, the axe effect. if only. if only.  
> the only way to get that effect is to put axe and pheromones on justin bieber and put him in the middle of a hot-high-school-girl-convention

Well i believed what i wanted to believe lol…

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**Author:** ![MisterMagik](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mistermagik/32/2360_2.png) [@MisterMagik](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MisterMagik)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2010, 5:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-15-with-instant-shine-tuth-and-ammo-advice-on-what-to-use/38709/28 "2010-05-20T05:07:06Z")

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I don’t know what everyone is talking about…I have the axe effect every day. Just…sometimes its elderly women…Hey I won’t be choosy here!

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