# No results at 15 with Instant Shine, TUTH and Ammo: advice on what to use

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**Created:** [May 18, 2010, 11:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-15-with-instant-shine-tuth-and-ammo-advice-on-what-to-use/38709 "2010-05-18T23:43:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-15-with-instant-shine-tuth-and-ammo-advice-on-what-to-use/38709/4 "2010-05-19T00:44:10Z")

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dude, mones work TOO WELL. It can also be a double-edged sword. Use too much of one thing or a bad combo, and the girl doesn’t like it, it can evenleave some BAD impression of you

Here is an example (working too good, but not the way I hoped… ☹ )

> [@2nd chance advice... which mones?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/2nd-chance-advice-which-mones/38701):
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> Okay, way back in 2009, August and Sept (lol), I started experimenting with AMMO and TUTH and IShine. I was seeing this nice girl and I sometimes used AMMO and AMMO + IShine around. I got good responses. It got her really upbeat and in good mood. One day, I tried to add more fuel to the fire by adding much TUTH with AMMO. However, things went kind of south that evening. the girl was more argumentative than usual, and she seemed to suspect me as shady. I didn’t know why she was acting that way.…

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