# No results at 16 from Instant Honesty, Openness and Shine: which pheromone to try? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 16, 2008, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-16-from-instant-honesty-openness-and-shine-which-pheromone-to-try/10059 "2008-03-16T07:20:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![richuroo43](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@richuroo43](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/richuroo43)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 7:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-16-from-instant-honesty-openness-and-shine-which-pheromone-to-try/10059/1 "2008-03-16T07:20:23Z")
instant honesty-doesn’t work instant openess-doesn’t work instant shine-doesn’t work i want a [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) that really works that strongly attracts women for me, a 16 almost 17 year old ---
**Author:** ![incubusattacks](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/incubusattacks/32/1259_2.png) [@incubusattacks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/incubusattacks)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 8:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-16-from-instant-honesty-openness-and-shine-which-pheromone-to-try/10059/2 "2008-03-16T08:35:29Z")
Hate to break it to ya dude, but those products don’t sexually attract girls, and no [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) will ever have outrageous effects like you see on Axe or Tag commercials. The products you bought encourage socializing, and in a way they do attract girls, but people in general.. give them another chance.If you wanna get laid get a stripper 😛 ---
**Author:** ![arbek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ce7236/32.png) [@arbek](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/arbek)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 10:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-16-from-instant-honesty-openness-and-shine-which-pheromone-to-try/10059/3 "2008-03-16T10:12:24Z")
The product you got should well be suited to that age group, if I’m not mistaken, through lots of reading around this forums. But Pheromone are not magic potion, that can turn you from mud to stud… if that your expectation then you got the wrong idea. You need to tell us, why it not working and what you are doing so maybe we can help you, even give some ideas on what you are doing wrong.. to help enhance your social aspect of using pheromone. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 10:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-16-from-instant-honesty-openness-and-shine-which-pheromone-to-try/10059/4 "2008-03-16T10:47:01Z")
I’m afraid Incubus is right, no pheromone product will “strongly attract women” to you. That’s your job. What pheromones generally do is add enhancement or value to your total package. With pheromones it’s still you only a little better. However you are still responsible for creating attraction: act sensual and confident, look good, make small talk, smile and be friendly, etc. In other words, you do the grunt work and pheromones will afford you an edge up. Attraction is still in your court. Instant Honesty and Instant Openness are wonderful general social products. They help impart a friendly air and foster verbal discourse. Great for work and socializing. Instant Shine is a subtle product and is best paired with a stronger pheromone such as -Androsterone or none. I think thus you make the most of the uplifting aspects. Get your game in order and intelligently and purposely use pheromones to strengthen your presentation. Start with a balanced all-in-one mix–social and [sensual pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/sensual-pheromones/), e.g., Ammo–and specialize and tweak as you learn via experimentation. Took me months to grasp the basics and a couple years to focus and tweak to good effect. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-16-from-instant-honesty-openness-and-shine-which-pheromone-to-try/10059/5 "2008-03-16T11:26:14Z")
Excellant post gegogi. I agree with him, mones are just a part of attraction you have to create the rest. Mone products just give you a edge. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![bond007](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bond007/32/1076_2.png) [@bond007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bond007)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-16-from-instant-honesty-openness-and-shine-which-pheromone-to-try/10059/6 "2008-03-16T16:50:55Z")
im surprised no one brought up the thread made by tisha. [this one](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-pheromones-can-do-and-what-they-cant-updated/9558) bond ---
**Author:** ![Lillith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lillith/32/2355_2.png) [@Lillith](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lillith)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-16-from-instant-honesty-openness-and-shine-which-pheromone-to-try/10059/7 "2008-03-16T20:29:16Z")
The pheromones you chose are better suited for an older woman. You need to try some products that have androsteRONE. If you are 16 or 17, you are naturally producing more than enough androsteNONE (unless you are Clay Aiken or Bobby Trendy). Try [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and a low dose androsteNONE, alpha-androsteNOL product. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-16-from-instant-honesty-openness-and-shine-which-pheromone-to-try/10059/8 "2008-03-16T21:02:15Z")
Nuttin’ like a teenager with an “old lady” vibe to attract 16 & 17 year old girls!😃 TAA or androstenol are not exclusively older women mones. Not even remotely. Instead, they’re universally excellent social products for any age or sex. They just don’t shout do me ASAP! ---
**Author:** ![richuroo43](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/edb3f5/32.png) [@richuroo43](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/richuroo43)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-16-from-instant-honesty-openness-and-shine-which-pheromone-to-try/10059/9 "2008-03-17T02:26:41Z")
ok so which 1 of these pheros is the best working for my age meaning which is the #1 phero for my age group 16-17 in the world, even from other companies ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-16-from-instant-honesty-openness-and-shine-which-pheromone-to-try/10059/10 "2008-03-17T02:42:45Z")
These pheromones should work for you, Socials work well in your age group because the sexual pheromones can come on to strong. It would help if you gave us some info on how your using them. How long have you been trying them ? How many sprays are you using ? Where do you apply them ? What enviroment are you using them in ? What kind of effects are you expecting, this will help us know if your expectations are to high or not. Remember pheromones give you an edge and make socialization easier but they wont do all the work for you. You still have to make a effort. You still have to approuch and charm them. The pheromones just make it easier. Instant Openness, should make all people both men and women chatty, more friendly and confortable around you. Instant Honesty, still chatty but deeper, gives a feeling of closeness and sensitivity. Connects more. Instant Shine is a mood enhancer, it makes people feel good when they are around you and draws them to you. None of the above are better suited for older women by any means, in fact its best your age group start with the socials. [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) is a good product as well which can give you a mature more sophisticated aura. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Baller21](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/baller21/32/1988_2.png) [@Baller21](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Baller21)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2008, 5:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-at-16-from-instant-honesty-openness-and-shine-which-pheromone-to-try/10059/11 "2008-03-17T05:50:38Z")
> [@richuroo43](#): > > instant honesty-doesn’t work > instant openess-doesn’t work > instant shine-doesn’t work > > i want a pheromone product that really works > that strongly attracts women for me, a 16 almost 17 year old Maybe it’s you thats not working. Pm me if you want something that really works.