# No results from TUTH and Ammo to-go bottles, alone or combined: dosing advice

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-from-tuth-and-ammo-to-go-bottles-alone-or-combined-dosing-advice/54366>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 28, 2012, 8:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-from-tuth-and-ammo-to-go-bottles-alone-or-combined-dosing-advice/54366 "2012-01-28T08:34:43Z")\
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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [August 20, 2012, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-from-tuth-and-ammo-to-go-bottles-alone-or-combined-dosing-advice/54366/41 "2012-08-20T00:57:59Z")

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> But the findings came from someone whose join date was 4 years ago and not new member in this forum. Usually if someone was from another company/forum, his join date would be recent.

I didnt say simple franky was from another company. However there are rumors being spread by people with agendas and lots of members here are members of other forums which is fine. I am a member of other forums as well. However they believe those rumors. 4 years is fairly new. Its hard to sort the bull crap in this business unless you been around here a long time to see it happen.

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> However, simple\_franky findings is based on his real life experience comparing old and new version of products.

I am not disregarding simply franky’s experiences at all. However he stated something that is incorrect and can mislead other members.

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> after the scent was changed and we found TUH lost much of it,s oomph

TUTH has not changed. Its exactly the same as its always been unless he customized it in another scent. Its always been neroli and still is.

So his experience of it not having enough oomph for him is not because of formula change.

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> One way to find out is if there are many users (new and old users) who bought the new version of products and report their effectiveness…

Well you cant because there is no old and new to compare with TUTH.

Yes Ammo **changed scent** and people miss the original but the formula is the same. Its been compared here all the time.

Yes IJ did change by removing the copulins. Also been compared.

Yes any product that had copulins ( womens) changed. I have talked about the womens products not being as effective as the older ones here myself without the copulins

Your new so just so you know, copulins are the vaginal fluids of fertile females. They are not something often used in mens mixes.

Yes IFM was discontinued but thats not changing the formula and just because it was discontinued along with copulins doesnt mean the rest of the formulas have changed.

So you cant negate the age “theory” which is in reality is fact not theory if your going on information that is incorrect to begin with.

Tisha

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