# No results yet from NOL products like Instant Openness: how much should I use? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 16, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-yet-from-nol-products-like-instant-openness-how-much-should-i-use/756 "2006-10-16T18:30:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sherid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sherid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sherid)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 6:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-yet-from-nol-products-like-instant-openness-how-much-should-i-use/756/1 "2006-10-16T18:30:57Z")
Guys, any idea if its normal that NOL products don’t work for me. Or is it I am not doing enough of experiments or probably not reading the signs of it working altogether? I tried Instant Openess / Honesty … Previously I tried SOE but then I don’t see much results with it. Products where I see diffierence is with TAA (IS), A314, NONE, Rone stuff. Boosts my confidence and and ability to go get. Probably it must b because of my personality … Trying NOL still … Seeing how people could get extra friendly and OPEN up their life to me .. easily … But no luck yet … Any ideas??? ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-yet-from-nol-products-like-instant-openness-how-much-should-i-use/756/2 "2006-10-16T18:44:05Z")
I’ve noticed when using IO or similar in a group (like at a lunch meeting) after about 15 minutes or so the conversation often gets pretty rolling. And there was a recent time I had a passenger in a car with me who started getting very conversational after about 20 minutes (had on Pheromol Factor I think, which I believe is a -nol product). You do need some “before and after” experiences with the same people sometimes to see the changes. You have to have an idea of how things go _without_ a -nol presence, and then later, _with_ a -nol prescence. Other times when I’ve worn IO while out and about I’ve had situations where someone I’ve been talking to for about 5-10 minutes just won’t shut up! I’ve yet to notice anything dramatic with IH, but I suspect the effects may be a little more subtle. I’ve gotten some interesting “secrets” with IO alone (once someone gets to talking away). ---
**Author:** ![Sherid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sherid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sherid)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2006, 7:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-yet-from-nol-products-like-instant-openness-how-much-should-i-use/756/3 "2006-10-16T19:48:58Z")
How many sprays r u puttinG to get such an effect??? > [@Rbt](#): > > I’ve noticed when using Instant Openness or similar in a group (like at a lunch meeting) after about 15 minutes or so the conversation often gets pretty rolling. And there was a recent time I had a passenger in a car with me who started getting very conversational after about 20 minutes (had on Pheromol Factor I think, which I believe is a -Androstenol product). You do need some “before and after” experiences with the same people sometimes to see the changes. You have to have an idea of how things go _without_ a -Androstenol presence, and then later, _with_ a -Androstenol prescence. Other times when I’ve worn IO while out and about I’ve had situations where someone I’ve been talking to for about 5-10 minutes just won’t shut up! > > I’ve yet to notice anything dramatic with Instant Honesty, but I suspect the effects may be a little more subtle. I’ve gotten some interesting “secrets” with IO alone (once someone gets to talking away). ---
**Author:** ![Rbt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rbt/32/2066_2.png) [@Rbt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rbt)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-yet-from-nol-products-like-instant-openness-how-much-should-i-use/756/4 "2006-10-17T20:07:02Z")
> [@Sherid](#): > > How many sprays r u puttinG to get such an effect??? I am a minimalist at heart (also darned cheapo) so I generally only use one or two sprays at a time (usually only one). It’s a small group at a smallish table (never more than 6 people, usually only about 3-4 most times). If I were in with a larger group, say at a family gathering, I’d probably go with at least 2 to three sprays. I also tend to apply to arms and sides (on clothing) so I can “direct” the “cloud” the way I want it to go. For example, one of my “primary targets” always sits to my left, so she gets the “better stuff,” while someone who I’m not really interested in all that much (in terms of influencing) sits to my right, so that side may get a slightly different application dosage (both female). 🙂 I may also mix in a bit of IFM and/or a314 depending on my mood and inclination (one to max two sprays/drops usually. a314 often goes on arms/chest/neck [skin]. IFM on back of neck, back of shirt area). I also have a tendency to go easy on IO (or most any other -nol product) as I’d like to be able to get a word in edgewise sometimes… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Sherid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sherid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sherid)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2006, 8:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-yet-from-nol-products-like-instant-openness-how-much-should-i-use/756/5 "2006-10-17T20:50:25Z")
I tried spraying like … 7 to 8 Sprays .. just to OD the stuff and see the results. This way … atleast I saw people getting friendly and also hiked up my mood .. I didnt get chance to experiment more around people .. But just went to drop someone at airport and counter gurls were extra happy and flirtish … I uzed was Instant Honest … around 8 Sprays … So i guess … this works .. to an extent … since there is some sort of DIHL … atleast a response … But 2 or 3 sprays is very less for me… Therefore I cannot use this stuff on daily … otherwise it will get very expensive I guess .. ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-yet-from-nol-products-like-instant-openness-how-much-should-i-use/756/6 "2006-10-18T03:14:38Z")
> [@Sherid](#): > > I tried spraying like … 7 to 8 Sprays .. just to OD the stuff and see the results. This way … atleast I saw people getting friendly and also hiked up my mood .. I didnt get chance to experiment more around people .. But just went to drop someone at airport and counter gurls were extra happy and flirtish … I uzed was Instant Honest … around 8 Sprays … So i guess … this works .. to an extent … since there is some sort of DIHL … atleast a response … But 2 or 3 sprays is very less for me… > > Therefore I cannot use this stuff on daily … otherwise it will get very expensive I guess .. Are you a smoker? How many times have you tried it at lower doses? ---
**Author:** ![Sherid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@Sherid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Sherid)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2006, 12:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-results-yet-from-nol-products-like-instant-openness-how-much-should-i-use/756/7 "2006-10-18T12:13:40Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Are you a smoker? How many times have you tried it at lower doses? NO I dun SMOKE… I tried 2 to 3 times with LOW doses? … No LUck tho … But with 7 to 8 sprayz… probably was forced to get some response ..