# No time for a clever title. -My Journal

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**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [February 9, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-a-clever-title-my-journal/54500 "2012-02-09T10:23:32Z")\
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**Author:** ![sip166](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@sip166](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sip166)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-a-clever-title-my-journal/54500/1 "2012-02-09T10:23:32Z")

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Well, i was going to wait until i got home to write this, but im too excited to wait. Like anyone else, I had my doubts about “magic potions” that can make people act differently. I am an engineering student and I like to think of everything from a scientific point of view. The following joural will be as scientific as possible. First off, here are the products I own.  
-ammo  
-tuth  
-ig  
-ij  
-io  
-a314

Here are my ideas for an experiment:  
I would ideally have 2 sets of each mone, except one is a control that is just the scent and the other has the mone. The labels will be taped over so i dont know which one is which. I would then go about testing my results and when i am satisfied with my data I can compare. If anyone could hook me up with just the scents to support my research it would be greatly appreciated.

I would also record what I used, what my environment was like, my current mood, and any other factors. I would test similar environments many times in an attempt to eliminate chance. I would also like to solidify a few relationships and use them as “test subjects”. I would like to see how someone who, for example, responds well to ammo will respond to IG or tuth. Do the wants and needs of women reflect what mone they respond to? Or is this strictly a biological thing that is more primal? I will also add more later and edit based on your responses.

Unfortunately i am a broke college student and to make this experiment long-term I may need to request funding. Do you guys think I would be a  
Jerk for asking about funding? I came across a website where you propose your idea and people can help fund it. I personally dont feel bad asking because I am doing this strictly for research and not for personal gain. I am open to any input. PM me or post here.

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**Author:** ![sip166](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@sip166](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sip166)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 10:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-a-clever-title-my-journal/54500/2 "2012-02-09T10:23:58Z")

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2-9-2011 _Day1_

Well its my first day and i already had some hits. I got my togo bottles in the mail, and like I’ve read on the forums, the caps had some liquid in them. I decided not to waste this liquid so i applied the liquid that was in the AMMO, IO, and TUTH. These were probably less than 1 full spray each but I’m not sure. I went to the campus center to study and by what i think is a coincidence, I have three girls sitting near me within 5 minutes. I observed them for any odd behavior, but noticed nothing. Two of the girls were friends and one was alone. The one girl of the two friends (obviously the alpha) actually pulled out her own body spray and put it on herself and then began playing with her hair. Later, the girl that was by herself moved closer to me and kept glancing at what i was studying (looking for a convo starter maybe?). She then got up and asked me if I would watch her stuff while she was gone. When I was about to leave, she kept looking at me out of the corner of her eye as I was packing up and I could sense her internal struggle that us guys know all too well. I believe the conversation in your head goes something like “oh god they are leaving. if i dont man up and say something now then i may never see this person again.” It was a fun first experience and I cant wait for more.

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**Author:** ![Tacarov](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tacarov/32/2132_2.png) [@Tacarov](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tacarov)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 12:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-a-clever-title-my-journal/54500/3 "2012-02-09T12:33:49Z")

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Hey Sip,

Interesting to try double blind tests, I sort of came into it the other way, not expecting much of anything but being happily surprised when I first noticed hits that couldn’t quite be ignored. IH in particular has given me a number of those, people telling me things that there is no way they would normally say.

What scent package did you order in? I’m assuming you bought togo sizes since you say that money is a bit tight which would come in the standard neroli scent for most mones. If so it would be quite cheap for you to run your tests.

For 1.45 you can pick up [empty 5ml size togo bottles](https://a314.com/) and for 21.94 you can pick up a [30ml bottle in the fragrance of your choice.](https://pheromonelabs.com/)

Tuth isn’t exactly something you would want to be testing completely blind, it can be way to sexual and cause some negative reactions if not used in the right environment.

I know that Shine, IO, IH and I believe IG all come in [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) normally. A314 is in Akuto in its oil form and I believe the same in the spray. I’m not quite sure about tuth and I know that ammo uses a custom scent package that I didn’t see available by itself.

At the prices above you would only be set back 27.74 to be able to blind test 4 different mixes. Of course this is assuming that the mones have no natural smell, depending on your sensitivity they do. There is at least one forum on here where someone ran tests on themselves as well as others and they thought the different mixes smelled different even based on the same scent package.

All that aside, what I might advise would be for you to test out each of these mixes on their own, become familiar with the effects. I would save tuth and maybe even ig for later, based on the likelihood of ODing on the former and the subtle nature of the hits the latter can produce. Ammo, io and ij ought to provide the most blatant hits, but as you may know from reading on the forums these really act as something to give you a bit of an edge they don’t really make women sex crazy or anything like. We after all are complex beings and even subtle influences can be ignored by our brains.

Once you have started your blind tests and have written some reports you might want to give Steve a call, or even give him a call to order those scents and empty bottles. He may be able to get a hold of the ammo fragrance for you.

Also in relation to your question about women and how they react, it has to do with a great many things, I’ve read that it has to do with age, upbringing / cultural values, and possibly even their race. Their unique sensitivities can be just as varied and hard to pin down as guessing a woman’s favorite food, you can make generalities and educated guess, but you are not going to be able to get it perfect 100 percent of the time. Even if you have a good idea, her mood, time of the month, the environment she is in and even her relationship with you can affect her response.

As an example younger women are typically scared by higher none signatures where as women age they become more tolerant and this can kick their desires into high gear. However a younger girl who has been around high none signature all her life (men output different levels of natural mones which aslo varies based on age and cultural background) would be more accepting of this possibly even looking for guys with this on a subconscious level. A normal girl just looking for a wild night also might go after that high none signature when she would normally tend to shy away from this in her everyday life.

Be sure to keep track of all this research, it will be very interesting to watch.

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**Author:** ![sip166](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@sip166](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sip166)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 1:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-a-clever-title-my-journal/54500/4 "2012-02-09T13:15:14Z")

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Thanks for your input. I was not going to do a blind study in which i didnt know what [pheromone](https://a314.com/) I was applying. I was just going to make it blind in the sense that i would have to bottles labeled “tuth” and only one would contain the pheromone. This would allow me to apply the proper dosage without knowing if it actually contains a pheromone or just a nice smell. Another thing that may concern me with that idea is that once a girl smells a cologne with the pheromone in it, and then we see each other again, would the smell itself trigger the response. This is something I will also have to test. Lots of testing in the future for me. For now, I’m using my togo bottles to figure out what the proper dosages are for me. I’m also doing regular observations just to get a general idea of what to expect.

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**Author:** ![girlygirl189](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@girlygirl189](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/girlygirl189)\
**Post date:** [February 21, 2012, 12:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-a-clever-title-my-journal/54500/5 "2012-02-21T00:28:39Z")

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are you trying to find a girlfriend?
