# No time for experiments....(putatives) Need a solid mix by Friday. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 31, 2007, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843 "2007-01-31T04:11:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/1 "2007-01-31T04:11:48Z")
I need an attraction mix that is not over the top sexual for a “second meeting” I’m already money, but I want a good mix with my new sexually enticing pheromones that should arrive within the business week I’m getting P79 7.5 mcg/spray in light neroli P83 5 mcg/spray in light neroli MX200 MX201 My regular inventory includes Alpha androstenol 2.5mcg unscented Beta androstenol 2.5mcg unscented Alpha androstenone 2.5mcg unscented Spaceland [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) MX207-212 A314 MX102 I need to use the putatives/mx200-201 because my regular inventory doesn’t generally produce sexual results in culture of Northeast Indiana. Like I said before I do not want to be seen as sexual, but rather someone who is sexually appealing (Big difference!). I also want to promote conversation to avoid awkward silence. We may be out at a bar, I’m not sure, so the mix needs to be versatile. Dosage ranges would be great if you could suggest them. I’m throwing myself to the mercy of the forum. I know testing is important but fate has thwarted me with time. Please deliver me from initial testing and help insure my victory of a potential relationship that has been missing from my recent existence. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/2 "2007-01-31T05:25:05Z")
Toil, Toil, I hope you have all the components to make this mix! > [@CTTM + Shine + TAH = Virtual Orgy](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/cttm-shine-tah-virtual-orgy/1842/1): > > I 've been playing around with Pheromones for a while and enjoy mixing them them for my friends. And my skeptical friends and extremely impressed.slight_smile I gave friend one a small batch of home brew to take home with him. He puts on one spray a day and says he is getting sex from his wife 3 times a week (and he has been married for 10 years) and a hot Latino he has the hots for started calling him every day. Mix One – 3 parts CTTM2, 1 part DS [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/), 1 part TAH 5 mcg, 1/2 part … If you don’t… Well, somehow I’ve gotta @#($&g get them to you before the weekend! ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 5:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/3 "2007-01-31T05:34:17Z")
Well, I have shine, and alpha/beta -Androstenol so [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) Mix 2 is all fine, but for everything else it would be a -none Od for sure. I’m say to sensitive, and so are the people in this area. It’a realy kind of bad. I’ve only recieved on positive hit. The next time I talked to her she excused her actions on alcohol. (Bull S&\*t). -none is bad news for here. It did help me with an exam today. I felt realy competative and focused. just a dab under the nose w/some mx102 face, 2 IS 1 face 1 wrists, 5mcg beta Androstenol The -none had me BLANK! Clear headed and on memory recall. I also noticed that I had my hand covering the -none application point after a while. Like I was leaning on my fist under my nose. I’m sure I subconciously didn’t like it. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 5:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/4 "2007-01-31T05:38:56Z")
Thanks for help and link though. I don’t think I looked at that post. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 7:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/5 "2007-01-31T07:17:29Z")
> [@toilofday](#): > > I need an attraction mix that is not over the top sexual for a “second meeting” I’m already money, but I want a good mix with my new sexually enticing pheromones that should arrive within the business week > > I’m getting > > P79 7.5 mcg/spray in light neroli > P83 5 mcg/spray in light neroli > MX200 > MX201 > > My regular inventory includes > > Alpha androstenol 2.5mcg unscented > Beta androstenol 2.5mcg unscented > Alpha androstenone 2.5mcg unscented > Spaceland > Instant Shine > MX207-212 > A314 > MX102 > > I need to use the putatives/mx200-201 because my regular inventory doesn’t generally produce sexual results in culture of Northeast Indiana. Like I said before I do not want to be seen as sexual, but rather someone who is sexually appealing (Big difference!). I also want to promote conversation to avoid awkward silence. We may be out at a bar, I’m not sure, so the mix needs to be versatile. Dosage ranges would be great if you could suggest them. > > I’m throwing myself to the mercy of the forum. I know testing is important but fate has thwarted me with time. Please deliver me from initial testing and help insure my victory of a potential relationship that has been missing from my recent existence. > > 😃 2.5-5.0 mcg androstenone 22.5 mcg P79 2 shots spaceland 3 shost of shine maybe a tiny hint of P83 ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 8:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/6 "2007-01-31T08:21:35Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > 2.5-5.0 mcg androstenone > 22.5 mcg P79 > 2 shots spaceland > 3 shost of shine > > maybe a tiny hint of P83 Ok, I like it, except the -none. Do you see any way to get around it? Perhaps a314, mx102, or put in more than a hint [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)? If it’s necessary it’s necessary. I just don’t know if I can afford a negative reaction with this girl (age 21 recently). I want to play it safe. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 12:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/7 "2007-01-31T12:53:41Z")
> [@toilofday](#): > > I need an attraction mix that is not over the top sexual for a “second meeting” I’m already money, but I want a good mix with my new sexually enticing pheromones that should arrive within the business week > > I’m getting > > P79 7.5 mcg/spray in light neroli > P83 5 mcg/spray in light neroli > MX200 > MX201 > > My regular inventory includes > > Alpha androstenol 2.5mcg unscented > Beta androstenol 2.5mcg unscented > Alpha androstenone 2.5mcg unscented > Spaceland > Instant Shine > MX207-212 > A314 > MX102 > > I need to use the putatives/mx200-201 because my regular inventory doesn’t generally produce sexual results in culture of Northeast Indiana. Like I said before I do not want to be seen as sexual, but rather someone who is sexually appealing (Big difference!). I also want to promote conversation to avoid awkward silence. We may be out at a bar, I’m not sure, so the mix needs to be versatile. Dosage ranges would be great if you could suggest them. > > I’m throwing myself to the mercy of the forum. I know testing is important but fate has thwarted me with time. Please deliver me from initial testing and help insure my victory of a potential relationship that has been missing from my recent existence. > > 😃 Maybe it will be helpful to know the race of your date. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 5:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/8 "2007-01-31T17:06:43Z")
caucasian ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/9 "2007-01-31T17:46:30Z")
> [@toilofday](#): > > I need an attraction mix that is not over the top sexual for a “second meeting” I’m already money, but I want a good mix with my new sexually enticing pheromones that should arrive within the business week > > I’m getting > > P79 7.5 mcg/spray in light neroli > P83 5 mcg/spray in light neroli > MX200 > MX201 > > My regular inventory includes > > Alpha androstenol 2.5mcg unscented > Beta androstenol 2.5mcg unscented > Alpha androstenone 2.5mcg unscented > Spaceland > Instant Shine > MX207-212 > A314 > MX102 > > I need to use the putatives/mx200-201 because my regular inventory doesn’t generally produce sexual results in culture of Northeast Indiana. Like I said before I do not want to be seen as sexual, but rather someone who is sexually appealing (Big difference!). I also want to promote conversation to avoid awkward silence. We may be out at a bar, I’m not sure, so the mix needs to be versatile. Dosage ranges would be great if you could suggest them. > > I’m throwing myself to the mercy of the forum. I know testing is important but fate has thwarted me with time. Please deliver me from initial testing and help insure my victory of a potential relationship that has been missing from my recent existence. > > 😃 I will suggest this, MX200 - 3 sprays - Mild attraction, comfort, openness, good for one-on-one MX102 - 1 spray - slight status raise [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) - 1 spray - since lower sprays have been working well for you lately - add slight fun vibe, confidence (hold yourself back when you find yourself going too cocky) P79 - 3 sprays - one on each shoulder so that it’s covered but still releases steadily, one on back of neck for fast dispersion, you can add this just before you get there to get that boost of energy. Don’t refresh MX102. But you can refresh with MX200, I have found it doesn’t harm. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2007, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/10 "2007-02-01T05:02:25Z")
Thanks I’ll write these and see what I can figure out with some more research as my phero’s will definately be here friday!!! WOOOT WOOOT! lol ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/11 "2007-02-03T03:56:06Z")
So I wore mx200 x3 mx201 x1 mx210 x2 IS by 2 p79 x3 p83 x3 dabs I flet very playerish like I could have anybody I wanted. I went to mad anthony’s to eat with some friends and the girlfriends of the group kept giving me IOI’s I had multiple over 3 second stares. One girl leaned over tarted smelling her boyfriend who was beside me, then she looked straight at me. The guys at the table were reluctant to make eye contact. One of my buddies is clued in on the phero’s. I sat down and he began sniffing the air. He then looked at me and said “Sex panther?” with a cynical way, and then said “I thought so, I can smell it” He then later told me that my scent was making him angry…LOL! Oh and the girl…I’m realy confused right now. She ignored my text messages until right now and said “Sorry I was at applebees” 10:45 when I sent her a message at 7:30. Then one at 9:50 saying “That’s it you’re fired” I swear I saw her at Mad Anthony’s. I don’t want to contradict what she said and come off like I don’t remember what she looks like, but I’m bad with faces and I swear it was her at Mad Anthony’s. I guess I’ll have to see. It could be her identical twin. I don’t think i’m wrong. I sent her a message back saying “Interesting So what’s up?” I noticed that this mix is making me very angry at the moment. Not like androstenone agression, but more like a “Don’t you know who I am?!?!” kinda thing. I was very happy before, but I got a little P.O’ed at the text thing. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 7:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/12 "2007-02-03T07:49:39Z")
I’ll make this brief. After lack of return text from target female I went back out to a bar in the area and reapplied 2 sprays of mx200 and 2 sprays shine. I end up seeing the girl and her friend. Talk to them, then my buddy shows up behind them (who is after the targets friend). Wohw! Then a group of female friends (hot by the way) show up I talk to them for a bit, wait for a drink this entire time, and head out to hang out with the target. Poor response. I bail on the situation and go hang out with the female friends. They are standing off the dance floor chatting and such. I show up and it turns into a 30 minute dance goofiness fiasco. I go get some drinks, come back and it’s another 30 minutes of dancing. Definite shift in mood. Te friend and I head away from the dance area to a back game area. I challenge 2 of them to a game of foosball 1 on 2. I win wooooo! Things are still active and slap happy. My buddy shows up and shortly after the friend of the target. I talk to her and see what’s going on with the target because she seems to be after my friend at this point. PISSED (pardon the French, French people, excuse the expression). Target friend tells me to talk to target to get info because she knows nothing about it (genuinely. I have a good BS detector). Target shows up after a few. I pull her off to the side and have a heart to heart, because I don’t play games! You’re interested or you aren’t. If you play games I would rather not know you than try to get to know you. She apologizes for leading me on which she said she didn’t intend to/know she was doing. We found out that we have even more in common than previously thought, such as we both haven’t dated in about 3 years because of a tragic relationship prior and that we were both raised with the opposite sex primarily (I was raised mostly by my mom and sister, her bothers). Also she told me she gets the friend thing a lot as well which I was shocked by. I told her to reconsider and think about it. I swear when she answers i’m going to stop her and kiss her. What do I have to loose Mix results. It made girls more apt to have a good time. It made me less nervous and more forward. The bull sh\*\* was gone, and I was completely myself. If I wanted to do something I did it. (p83 at a small amount seems to be the culprit + the -none in mx102 and mx200) Right now I’m in an agitated but somber mood fully embracing my screen name. Toil of Day signifying the crap that one deals with on a daily basis that can’t be helped or justified, but you hope and pray it works out to your advantage. This is the mix. I would rate it a success. So much for mx113, all it did was get me another female friend and a girl that mislead me and went after my gumpy stupid friend that I can’t believe anybody would actually take him seriously as a potential partner. I’m serious. This guy is a total idiot. Sorry for the rant. I figure it’s best to post everything about the night and how I felt than post to little. This is a very forward, happy, or “won’t put up with your sh\*\*” mix. I would rate it as one of the best I’ve used because if something comes out of this it will be spectacular. If it doesn’t turn in my favor what did I lose? Nothing, that’s right nothing. So I will deem this the Fun and Honestly Aggressive All or Nothing Mix. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 7:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/13 "2007-02-03T07:57:17Z")
This is a very powerful mix! I have no regrets. ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 12:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/14 "2007-02-03T12:50:32Z")
You seem to like her, but I’d say you can’t focus on her anymore. You probably now best go and have fun with the other girl friends. If she had anything going for you to start with, that would uncover it quickly. If not, then you had the right mix and the good fun. ---
**Author:** ![bkshilo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3da27b/32.png) [@bkshilo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bkshilo)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 5:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/15 "2007-02-03T17:34:17Z")
There are plenty of fish in the sea, brother. Keep up the good work. Get back out there and hit on another one. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/16 "2007-02-03T20:46:23Z")
Yeah, I’m not going to waste anymore time on her. Wow. That mix is STRONG!!! I still feel like i’m wearing it off. I’m going to put on some spaceland to help. Woo. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/17 "2007-02-03T21:02:49Z")
> [@toilofday](#): > > So I wore > > mx200 x3 > mx201 x1 > mx210 x2 > IS by 2 > p79 x3 > p83 x3 dabs Hey toilofday! That mix really looks greatttt…! Although I think it might have too much TAA from MX210, [MX200](https://a314.com/product/mx200/) and IS (hence the cocky confidence playerish vibe, which is good when you are hunting, but not when you have a specific target in mind, it might give the vibe that this guy doesn’t care if I like him or not). Adding one spray of MX201 was good move as I have recently discovered. For me it has beta-nolish rapport building without seriousness effect. How much P83 do you think you got with 3 dabs? That might have some contribution to edginess. Overall I think this mix is a keeper and should be tweaked and perfected by you. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 10:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/18 "2007-02-03T22:15:57Z")
Yeah, I liked it very much. I agree with the Taa thing. After I reaplied the mx200 and IS I felt overwelmed for about 5 minutes. It made me very uneasy, but once i adjusted it was ok. starting with 2 sprays of shine, no mx201, then add in a shot of spaceland should do the trick. Also Reaplication is probably a no go for the mx200. I might add a little Beta -Androstenol 10 mcg’s probably. The dabs of p83 (7.5mcg/spray)…I define a dab by puting my finger over the bottle turning it upside down then aplying what is on my finger. I probably had about 1-4mcg (2 drops). It would be nice to know how many drops are in a spray. I’ll get working on that. So the mix for tonight if I end up going out will be p79 x3 p83 x2 dabs (5mcg/spray mix) mx200 x3 mx201 x1 IS x2 A314 1 drop spaceland 1 spray beta -Androstenol uncented 10 mcg It should be much less agressive with the added androstenols. On a side note, Is androstenone realy that good? I’ve read so much about it and it seems like crap, effective crap though. as mentioned in the thread started I have 2.5 mcg spray unscented. I’m thinking about testing it some more. Personly I think I have a worthless bottle of androstenone, but i’m starting to get into the experimental side of things as of recently and i’m reconsidering. It’s just so picky, like um…mechanical fuel injectors, or Individual throttle bodies (those are a pain) Edited in I forgot in my first mix I wore mx102 1 spray to the face ---
**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/19 "2007-02-03T22:30:18Z")
comming from indiana, do you find yourself hiding your use of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) because people are more conservative there? ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2007, 10:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/20 "2007-02-03T22:36:56Z")
Nobody can know, except 2 people I have told! I would get so much guff, i’d never hear the end of it. people would probably get mad at me. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843.md?page=2)