# No time for experiments....(putatives) Need a solid mix by Friday. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 31, 2007, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843 "2007-01-31T04:11:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/21 "2007-02-04T04:41:19Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Hey toilofday! That mix really looks greatttt…! > Although I think it might have too much TAA from MX210, MX200 and IS (hence the cocky confidence playerish vibe, which is good when you are hunting, but not when you have a specific target in mind, it might give the vibe that this guy doesn’t care if I like him or not). > > **Adding one spray of MX201 was good move as I have recently discovered. For me it has beta-nolish rapport building without seriousness effect.** > > How much P83 do you think you got with 3 dabs? That might have some contribution to edginess. Overall I think this mix is a keeper and should be tweaked and perfected by you. Can you elaborate nbully please on your experiences with MX201 (P93 with Neroli)? What doses have you used because another few posters felt very mellowed out by [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) (althouth they may have been combining it with other mones). Visionary ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/22 "2007-02-04T15:45:35Z")
> [@Socrates](#): > > Can you elaborate nbully please on your experiences with MX201 (P93 with Neroli)? What doses have you used because another few posters felt very mellowed out by P93 (althouth they may have been combining it with other pheromones). > > Visionary Visionary, I have tried [P93](https://a314.com/product/p93/) for few times now. With 3 sprays I was becoming very introspective (thinking too much about myself and life and such) and I didn’t like it. I am naturally very introspective and too much of it tends to bring me down, which is what happened with it. With 2 sprays I didn’t observe much. So I tried 1 spray recently and it surprised me. I posted the report on my blog. Here is the text: Today I tried P93 one spray only. I think it has an easygoing attraction vibe. 1 spray in the morning and 1 spray in the afternoon (12.5 mcg/spray), both times to the back of head. In the morning met a lady with whom I had taken a class before, she was very talkative, approached me to talk (never did that before, she is normally very shy), asked lot of questions and was very friendly, volunteered lots of information about her son, got my phone number, touched me 2-3 times on hand while talking in a flirty way. In the afternoon met with friend who was in a sharing mode too, talked about his life when he was young, disclosed some private information, good conversation. It’s not without attention getting qualities. Got more than usual eye contact from women. People I met were more receptive and friendly. Some beta-nolish characteristics! Sex was good too!! ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2007, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/23 "2007-02-04T18:44:42Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > I have tried P93 for few times now. With 3 sprays I was becoming very introspective (thinking too much about myself and life and such) and I didn’t like it. I am naturally very introspective and too much of it tends to bring me down, which is what happened with it. > With 2 sprays I didn’t observe much. So I tried 1 spray recently and it surprised me. I posted the report on my blog. Here is the text: > > Today I tried P93 one spray only. I think it has an easygoing attraction vibe. 1 spray in the morning and 1 spray in the afternoon (12.5 mcg/spray), both times to the back of head. In the morning met a lady with whom I had taken a class before, she was very talkative, approached me to talk (never did that before, she is normally very shy), asked lot of questions and was very friendly, volunteered lots of information about her son, got my phone number, touched me 2-3 times on hand while talking in a flirty way. > > In the afternoon met with friend who was in a sharing mode too, talked about his life when he was young, disclosed some private information, good conversation. It’s not without attention getting qualities. Got more than usual eye contact from women. > > People I met were more receptive and friendly. > Some beta-nolish characteristics! > Sex was good too!! sounds almost like a unisexual androstedienone? The overly introspective ‘downer’ effect it has on you sounds a lot like what happens to me with too much dienone. Positive effects you reported seem dienone like as well…[P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) sounds like a goodie ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 7:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/24 "2007-02-09T07:42:37Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Visionary, I have tried P93 for few times now. With 3 sprays I was becoming very introspective (thinking too much about myself and life and such) and I didn’t like it. I am naturally very introspective and too much of it tends to bring me down, which is what happened with it. > With 2 sprays I didn’t observe much. So I tried 1 spray recently and it surprised me. I posted the report on my blog. Here is the text: > > Today I tried P93 one spray only. I think it has an easygoing attraction vibe. 1 spray in the morning and 1 spray in the afternoon (12.5 mcg/spray), both times to the back of head. In the morning met a lady with whom I had taken a class before, she was very talkative, approached me to talk (never did that before, she is normally very shy), asked lot of questions and was very friendly, volunteered lots of information about her son, got my phone number, touched me 2-3 times on hand while talking in a flirty way. > > In the afternoon met with friend who was in a sharing mode too, talked about his life when he was young, disclosed some private information, good conversation. It’s not without attention getting qualities. Got more than usual eye contact from women. > > People I met were more receptive and friendly. > Some beta-nolish characteristics! > Sex was good too!! Thanks nbully, interesting stuff! MHarris said about P93 that: “All I’ll end with is by saying that it’s a neat molecule. For the reasons most guys are attracted to pheromones, I think it’ll be useful.” [[http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/p93-yes-exists-no-you-cant-1011-2.htm](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/mens-pheromone-advice-tricks-tips/p93-yes-exists-no-you-cant-1011-2.htm)] Most guys are attracted to pheromones of course for one reason lol. And Michael doesn’t say things like that willy nilly! I have ordered this putative unscented at 5 mcg per spray and will try low doses for a while first (like 1 spray). Visionary ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2007, 8:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/25 "2007-02-09T08:59:00Z")
I’ve thought out some theoretical mixes from the original that i’m wanting to test out. I was hoping to get some input on them. pre p83 tests. May cause irritation. A314 may give me status, but it could turn out to be stand offish. p79 ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) x3 p83 ([Experimental Pheromone P83 - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/p83/)) x2 dabs (5mcg/spray mix) mx200 x3 mx201 x1 IS x2 A314 ([A314 Classic Edition – Trust & Respect Pheromone for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/)) 1 drop spaceland ([https://a314.com/](https://a314.com/)) 1 spray beta -Androstenol uncented 10 mcg ([Microgram - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microgram)) Could ghost effect or be very effective. Apply –none in easy place to remove. Bring something to wash it off with and find a way to bring some spaceland. P79 x3 Mx200 x1 Mx201 x3 IS x2 -none 2.5mcg spaceland x1 betanol 10mcg ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 7:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/26 "2007-02-11T07:59:34Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > 2.5-5.0 mcg androstenone > 22.5 mcg P79 > 2 shots spaceland > 3 shost of shine > > maybe a tiny hint of P83 Sigma, thanks for this mix. I decided to use it as opposed to one of the mixes I had thought up. I used it on one of my friends as well. He said it made him feel more alpha, and he recieved attention from a pre wedding girls night out. Unfortunatley he has a horrid case of MPB, and screwed up his chances. I had a good a decent hit towards the end of the night, and swooned a girl into our table before being pulled away by her friends. A pretty decent night. Nothing spectacular, but definate results. This mix does need a cover scent as all the products involved (except IS) smell rather strong. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/27 "2007-02-11T19:13:49Z")
> [@toilofday](#): > > Sigma, thanks for this mix. I decided to use it as opposed to one of the mixes I had thought up. I used it on one of my friends as well. He said it made him feel more alpha, and he recieved attention from a pre wedding girls night out. Unfortunatley he has a horrid case of MPB, and screwed up his chances. I had a good a decent hit towards the end of the night, and swooned a girl into our table before being pulled away by her friends. > > A pretty decent night. Nothing spectacular, but definate results. > > This mix does need a cover scent as all the products involved (except IS) smell rather strong. Yeah I’ve been using slight variations of that mix for a couple of weeks now. Definately creates a very ‘large’ presence…both in a social and sexual standpoint. Its a little excessive at times I think…not that its necessarily a bad thing, but sometimes it feels more appropriate to simply hang back. Its a very heavy mix, both effectwise and physical [pheromone](https://a314.com/) content-wise. 100mcg of androstenol from two sprays of Spaceland is quite a lot in itself. It has a very heavy smell to it. If you’re using lower concentrations of P79/83, the smell of the perfumers alcohol can be a little overwhelming at first. Definately want to cover. If you want increased attention and attraction from females, you can further complicate things by adding IFM and TAL. Definately makes things more intersting. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/28 "2007-02-11T20:00:28Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > …Definately creates a very ‘large’ presence…both in a social and sexual standpoint. Its a little excessive at times I think…not that its necessarily a bad thing, but sometimes it feels more appropriate to simply hang back. That description fits very well. My friend had a short headach after aplication, and I even felt a little looped. When we arrived at the club we found a table off the dance floor and just chilled. I wondered about a couple times, but wasn’t feeling an overly active vibe. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2007, 8:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843/29 "2007-02-11T20:02:19Z")
> [@sigma](#): > > …Definately creates a very ‘large’ presence…both in a social and sexual standpoint. Its a little excessive at times I think…not that its necessarily a bad thing, but sometimes it feels more appropriate to simply hang back. That description fits very well. My friend had a short headach after aplication, and I even felt a little looped. When we arrived at the club we found a table off the dance floor and just chilled. I wondered about a couple times, but wasn’t feeling an overly active vibe. I’m thinking of subbing mx207-212 in for the spaceland and Instant shine. It might be more active. Less androstenol and a lot more Taa. I wish I had some Tal to add into the mix. Sounds fun. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/no-time-for-experiments-putatives-need-a-solid-mix-by-friday/1843.md?page=1)