# none and its effects **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 3, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-its-effects/27695 "2009-04-03T05:52:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![simplyme101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@simplyme101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simplyme101)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 5:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-its-effects/27695/1 "2009-04-03T05:52:36Z")
So I have read a lot of threads that talk about a lot of products containing none. First thing I wanted to ask was can someone point me to a link where I can find more information on none? Is there a list that provides a quantity of different [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) and none in different products? I read in a thread that one should not apply any none products on the hair. It didn’t mention a reason but I was just curious and wanted to get your take on it. Thanks, ---
**Author:** ![Xiphoid](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/xiphoid/32/1852_2.png) [@Xiphoid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Xiphoid)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-its-effects/27695/2 "2009-04-03T14:14:46Z")
Have you read the sticky that covers pretty much all the phero’s? **Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp** It’s a great thread that’ll give you answers to most of your Q’s… As far as I know you should avoid applying -none to your hair because it’s pretty much impossible to get out…so you’ll get build up and risk ODing on it. ---
**Author:** ![simplyme101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@simplyme101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simplyme101)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-its-effects/27695/3 "2009-04-03T23:27:00Z")
> [@Xiphoid](#): > > Have you read the sticky that covers pretty much all the phero’s? > **Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp** > > It’s a great thread that’ll give you answers to most of your Q’s… > > As far as I know you should avoid applying -none to your hair because it’s pretty much impossible to get out…so you’ll get build up and risk ODing on it. thanks!! that sticky was a lot of help… do you know where I can find a list of all the componenets that are used in the products? Thanks a bunch ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-its-effects/27695/4 "2009-04-04T02:11:39Z")
There’s no list like that. You’ll find that the product descriptions in the store tell you quite a bit. The thing is if they said exactly what was in each one then less scrupulous companies would just copy the mixes that Androtics works hard to invent. The main pheromone in each of the instant products is pretty much understood so here’s a quick rundown. TUTH = Androstenone or -none for short Ishine = TAA (the “T” series being proprietary designations given by Androtics to certain pheromones) IO = Alpha-androstenol IH = Beta-androstenol IJ = Androstenone IG = Androsterone IFM = Androstadienone also called A1 AMMO and [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) are both colognes that contain pheromones. AMMO marketed mainly to straight guys, Mystery Boy marketed mainly to gay guys. A314 is thought to be based on androsterone, but contains a lot of other stuff including a bit of -none. Now, next time this question gets asked it’s your turn to explain it! LOL 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![woostar88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/96bed5/32.png) [@woostar88](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/woostar88)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 7:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-its-effects/27695/5 "2009-04-04T07:29:04Z")
What’s the difference between alpha and beta when it comes to androstenol? ---
**Author:** ![Ball.Saxbury](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ball.saxbury/32/1063_2.png) [@Ball.Saxbury](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ball.Saxbury)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 7:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-its-effects/27695/6 "2009-04-04T07:38:19Z")
> [@renny](#): > > There’s no list like that. You’ll find that the product descriptions in the store tell you quite a bit. The thing is if they said exactly what was in each one then less scrupulous companies would just copy the mixes that Androtics works hard to invent. > > The main pheromone in each of the instant products is pretty much understood so here’s a quick rundown. > > TUTH = Androstenone or -none for short > Ishine = TAA (the “T” series being proprietary designations given by Androtics to certain pheromones) > IO = Alpha-androstenol > IH = Beta-androstenol > IJ = Androstenone > IG = Androsterone > IFM = Androstadienone also called A1 > > AMMO and Mystery Boy are both colognes that contain pheromones. AMMO marketed mainly to straight guys, Mystery Boy marketed mainly to gay guys. > > A314 is thought to be based on androsterone, but contains a lot of other stuff including a bit of -none. > > Now, next time this question gets asked it’s your turn to explain it! LOL 🙂 Hey Renny, do you happen to know what the CTTM 2 is? How does it line up against the IO and IH by themselves? Hoping to save a few bucks. ---
**Author:** ![simplyme101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@simplyme101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simplyme101)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 2:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-its-effects/27695/7 "2009-04-04T14:03:00Z")
> [@woostar88](#): > > What’s the difference between alpha and beta when it comes to androstenol? Check out thr sticky that covers **Basic Noob Phero Bootcamp** it explains the answer to your question very nicely!! ---
**Author:** ![simplyme101](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5f8ce5/32.png) [@simplyme101](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/simplyme101)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 2:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-its-effects/27695/8 "2009-04-04T14:08:06Z")
This is awesome!!! exactly what I was looking for now all I need to do is figure out how much none can my body take without OD and when I start doing comobs whats the prefect mixture for none,alpa and beta. oh I am promise I will copy paste this thread next time this question is aksed..haha Thanks a ton!! > [@renny](#): > > There’s no list like that. You’ll find that the product descriptions in the store tell you quite a bit. The thing is if they said exactly what was in each one then less scrupulous companies would just copy the mixes that Androtics works hard to invent. > > The main pheromone in each of the instant products is pretty much understood so here’s a quick rundown. > > TUTH = Androstenone or -none for short > Ishine = TAA (the “T” series being proprietary designations given by Androtics to certain pheromones) > IO = Alpha-androstenol > IH = Beta-androstenol > IJ = Androstenone > IG = Androsterone > IFM = Androstadienone also called A1 > > AMMO and Mystery Boy are both colognes that contain pheromones. AMMO marketed mainly to straight guys, Mystery Boy marketed mainly to gay guys. > > A314 is thought to be based on androsterone, but contains a lot of other stuff including a bit of -none. > > Now, next time this question gets asked it’s your turn to explain it! LOL 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2009, 6:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-its-effects/27695/9 "2009-04-04T18:17:34Z")
> [@Ball.Saxbury](#): > > Hey Renny, do you happen to know what the CTTM 2 is? How does it line up against the IO and IH by themselves? Hoping to save a few bucks. All three contain both isomers of androstenol. CTTM2 could be said to be in between IO and IH, but that would be simplifying it. I used to advise new guys to get CTTM2 to start with because it produced the most obvious hits for me. As time went on though I found that that was the wrong advise for about 2/3rds of people. It really is a crapshoot as to which one will be most obvious to a given person. Try them one at a time, there’s no shortcut with pheromones. Alphanol and Betanol get the most press for being creating an atmosphere for comfortable communication. That’s not all they do though. If you are serious about pheromones you’ll find all three products to be useful in different ways. ---
**Author:** ![ElectraComplex](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/electracomplex/32/1257_2.png) [@ElectraComplex](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ElectraComplex)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-its-effects/27695/10 "2009-04-16T13:53:30Z")
Instant honesty engenders touchy feely behavior and cuddly wuddlies with my guy I like it 🙂 also does cause a lot of talking 😛 very frank comfortable talking about things that make me happy as a woman. 😛