# \-none and none

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-none/15749>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [July 17, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-none/15749 "2008-07-17T23:15:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 3\
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**Author:** ![Metis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Metis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Metis)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-none/15749/1 "2008-07-17T23:15:14Z")

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What do these two words in the title mean?

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 11:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-none/15749/2 "2008-07-17T23:23:35Z")

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None is zero, -none is short for androstenone.

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**Author:** ![Metis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Metis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Metis)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2008, 11:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-and-none/15749/3 "2008-07-17T23:26:00Z")

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Ah… ok, thanks 🙂