# None plus Cops- hideous backlash? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 31, 2007, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914 "2007-12-31T21:45:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![doodee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@doodee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/doodee)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 9:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/1 "2007-12-31T21:45:04Z")
Has anyone considered doing these two together or has actually done it? I want to wear A314 for the power and rapport with big bosses but i dont want to come across as butch so wondering if adding cops will counteract this? More likely it will send such a scrambled message people will freak, cant make sense of it. what do you think? I WANT POWER: GIRL POWER!! ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 10:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/2 "2007-12-31T22:03:42Z")
Well, I’m not a girl, and I don’t know how well A314 works for women, so I’m not the best to answer this, but I’m gonna give it a shot anyway. 😛 I am thinking that a better combo for women would be A314 and [Instant Sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/). The A314 should give off an Alpha and respect aura, and copulins are intended to create sexual arousal, but I suspect that adding them to A314 could possibly create a sexual intimidation factor. I believe that MX134 is what you’re actually looking for. ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/3 "2007-12-31T22:25:46Z")
I use 'none and cops together to enhance sex … in other words when I know sex is in the cards, that combination makes things hotter for both of you. I would not wear it in your workplace … basically its message is _do me now and make it rough_ 😃 A314 is not heavy on 'none though. Its primary [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) is androsterone, like 80% or so. Adding TAL, either straight or in the form of Instant Sexiness A, will enhance the femininity of your signature but still demand respect (or worship, depending on who you ask). The cops in IS/A are there but not in the foreground, and nobody’s going to mess with you inappropriately when you wear it. IS/B is much softer, more girly-helpless, elicits tenderness, protectiveness, and not as much respect. I’ve never tried wearing it with A314 - they’re pretty opposite in effect. I agree with Mark that MX134 is going to be perfect but unfortunately that’s an advanced product. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 10:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/4 "2007-12-31T22:33:17Z")
> [@Carrie](#): > > IS/B is much softer, more girly-helpless, elicits tenderness, protectiveness, and not as much respect. I’ve never tried wearing it with A314 - they’re pretty opposite in effect. > > I agree with Mark that MX134 is going to be perfect but unfortunately that’s an advanced product. Thanks Carrie, I wasn’t sure, but I was thinking that the kittenish quality that Tisha talks about in [Instant Sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/) could possibly tone down the Alpha aspect of A314 and make it a little more of a girly type respect mix. But, being a guy, I know nothing! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/5 "2007-12-31T22:34:06Z")
Thanks for the info Carrie. I thought A314 was heavy in none which is why I havent used it much. I may have to give it another go. Happy New Year Everyone Let the Party Begin ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/6 "2007-12-31T22:38:19Z")
As mentioned by the ever-brilliant Carrie, cops and androstenone have been used successfully by married ladies in this forum–with the result of extremely physical sex. I’ve not tried that, but back in the day I bought some of that androstenone product they sell to women. Let’s just say that it didn’t work well for attraction. You know that crazy lady who wanders around the mall muttering to herself? (Okay, maybe you don’t have one in your neighborhood, but just imagine you do.) People acted like I was her. I had on only like two dabs of androstenone and people treated me as if I might go all schizophrenic. I did feel a tiny tad bit scowly, but nothing extreme. I forced myself to go to the grocery store with it on one more time, just to make sure, and the result was similar. _Lots_ of space from everyone. For these reasons, I’ve never worn it around my menfolks. (I still have the bottle somewhere in the back of my armoire cause I looove how it smells.) As previously mentioned, for work, you don’t need A314 anyway. That’s a heavy men’s androsterone product. (There’s androstenone in there too, I thought.) You’ll want to start with [Instant Sexiness](https://phera.com/product/instant-sexiness/) A and possibly eventually move up to MX134. IS/A is worksafe, and you can easily add cops to it for afterhours. Happy 2008 in advance everyone!! Kitten ---
**Author:** ![doodee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@doodee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/doodee)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/7 "2007-12-31T23:21:43Z")
yeah yeah i know all this but you dont get how power hungry i am!!! I have actually ordered ISA and MX134 which everyone seems to agree are the correct choices… ..but factor in that I havent even received them yet and already im wondering whther i should hit it harder. Let me explain… i work in a corporate Law firm in London City. I am new to the firm and new to the job- im the office newbie that asks questions and stops the big boys making thier dollars. as a result im meant to sit in the corner and only speak when spoke to waiting for that mystical moment when i actually am somebody…I HATE THIS!!! How can i get respect without A314?!?!?!?! I neeeeeeeed it dont I? I know i know, ive got to trial out the ISA and MX134 first. But hey- ive got megabucks to burn 😉 I work damn hard for my cash and if i want to blow i bloody well will 🙂 I want to exude the **-watch-out-mega-bitch-is-here-dont-f** \*-with-me-do-what-i-say-or-i-will-eat-you-but-you-also-desperately-want-to-f\*\*\*-me-so-lie-down-on the-floor-and-let-me-walk-all-over-you-in-my-razor-sharp-stilletos-you-little-pigs-and-squeal-becuase-you-love-it-I-AM-YOUR-MASTER-\*\*kinda vibe. do you get it?!?!?! …having said that, i dont want to be overpowering or intimidating. (_snorts with laughter stuffing hands into mouth and trying not to howl_) i think i should get rep points for this. it is NYE and i have had a migraine for the last 2 days striaght. ~what the world needs now, is nones, sweet nones~ (definatly not btw) ---
**Author:** ![Carrie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carrie/32/1537_2.png) [@Carrie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carrie)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2007, 11:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/8 "2007-12-31T23:58:16Z")
If you have megabucks to burn, by all means get some A314. It has a little bit of 'none but it’s soooo smooth, tempered by all that 'rone and whatever other magical things they put in it. It IS power, but an in-control kind of power, the kind that only has to speak quietly and it **will be done**. No shouting, no posturing, no threats (= 'none). It is not feminine at all, but you can temper it; cops seems like the obvious thing to temper it with, but I think it’s TOO obviously sexual a message to make it the main female note you’re wearing - TAL would be better. You can also temper it with your look (how you dress, your makeup), fragrance (this can be very important), the way you move, the vocal qualities you cultivate (this can be very powerful, if you want to _be listened to_). [Pheromones](https://a314.com/) speak, but they’re not the only message getting across - it’s all part of the package. ---
**Author:** ![doodee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/5f8ce5/32.png) [@doodee](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/doodee)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 12:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/9 "2008-01-01T00:07:36Z")
…well not megabucks. but i am single and no kids so can splurge out. Plus, i dont really want to buy or do anything else now that i have enetered the enchanted world of fairymones. Your point is totally right- its not just the pheromones:- imagine if you are average/shortish heigh woman, very busty, curvy, dark long hair nd tanned and wear makeup high heels nice spangly jewellry- could you really seem butch even if you were honking off nones? it could go both ways really. if you were very feminine but smelt of the big boy stuff that has got to make a man just _cower_ really? He cant work you out. womanly but alpha male power. Must give you the edge over him? Right? But factoring in cops…hmm i dunno. If men wear cops to seem like they just did it with a girl then woment wearing nones could seem silimlar? I just wanna shake things up a bit ha ha aha 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/10 "2008-01-01T00:24:48Z")
> [@](#): > > I want to exude the **-watch-out-mega-bitch-is-here-dont-f** \*-with-me-do-what-i-say-or-i-will-eat-you-but-you-also-desperately-want-to-f\*\*\*-me-so-lie-down-on the-floor-and-let-me-walk-all-over-you-in-my-razor-sharp-stilletos-you-little-pigs-and-squeal-becuase-you-love-it-I-AM-YOUR-MASTER-\*\*kinda vibe. do you get it?!?!?! LOL I love this. 😃 I use Androstenone and cops to make sex more intense as well. The combo makes sex more animalistic and will make men a bit more aggressive in regards to sex. Im thinking this is not what your looking for at work. You want the Angilina Jolie as LARA (Tomb Raider) Aura. A smart successful powerful women who can screw your brains out if she had the inclination to. MX134 is the “I am women hear me roar” mix It will make people stand up and take notice without masking your feminine qualities. The heavy [male pheromones](https://phero.com/) that are in A314 are replaced by strong sassy women pheromones and it has a tiny trace of cops to make the “pigs squeal” Just like we tell the men with A314 you need to project that aura. With both IS/A and MX134 you will easily do that and I think you have the personality to pull off MX134 with tremendous results. Watch out London your about to hear doodee ROAR 😉 Here are some interesting threads about MX134. I love the reports from Kitten they are fantastic. I have to rep her on those again 😃 > [@Bring Your MX134 to Work Week](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/bring-your-mx134-to-work-week/3429): > > Hey all, My first results thread, so please be patient with me? :o I had really cool results last Thursday using MX134 at work and had this idea to try using it all this week, and report on any results here for each day. Not reading any of the posts on MX134, because I don’t want to skew my perceptions. Sorry in advance for any redundencies! On Thursday, I decided to try my MX134 because I was expecting to have a meeting with my boss, and I have been hearing rumors that a new position was i… > [@MX134-wearing men makes for one SEXY guy](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx134-wearing-men-makes-for-one-sexy-guy/2160): > > Okay, okay, I’m sure most of you guys and gals have heard about MX134, and how it’s the female “equivalent” of A314. (One masculine [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) swapped out for a dominant female pheromone a’la TAL) I’ve tested MX134 on some guys recently, both without their knowledge and with. Yes, like the title says: SEXY. (Lor would say SEXXAY.) 2 sprays MX134 applied unknowingly to my man’s neck while he was sleeping (I’m evil. I invented the devil horn application for a reason): Made for some amazing sex. … Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/11 "2008-01-01T00:55:25Z")
> [@mark-in-dallas](#): > > The A314 should give off an Alpha and respect aura, and copulins are intended to create sexual arousal, but I suspect that adding them to A314 could possibly create a sexual intimidation factor. I would be interested in hearing from anyone, man or woman, who has tried HIGH dose A314 (say 3-8 drops) with large amounts of Copulins. I wonder what the reaction would be? A ‘sexual intimidation factor’🆒 like Mark says? > [@Carrie](#): > > I use 'none and cops together to enhance sex … in other words when I know sex is in the cards, that combination makes things hotter for both of you. I would not wear it in your workplace … basically its message is _do me now and make it rough_ 😃 > [@tisha23](#): > > LOL I love this. 😃 I use Androstenone and cops to make sex more intense as well. The combo makes sex more animalistic and will make men a bit more aggressive in regards to sex. You ladies could try some of the putatives as sex add ons as well. [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/), P79, P83, P90, P93 have all proven to be somewhat beneficial from my own experiences and those of others on the forum… P75 especially feels Androstenone-like when doing the dirty… On that note Happy New Year Everyone!!! ---
**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/12 "2008-01-01T03:43:59Z")
> [@doodee](#): > > If men wear cops to seem like they just did it with a girl then woment wearing nones could seem silimlar? Ummm. Well, if a guy can get cops on him by having intimate contact with a womans vaginal juices, and then attract attention from other women due to his recent “conquest,” I suppose, then that a woman could get some amount of -none on her by nuzzling a man’s sweaty armpit, or wherever else her man is sweating. My only concern is that it might take a whole lot of sweat-collecting to account for very much -none. Are there women who crave mens sweat? Pepe said he was into men’s sweat, but what about you ladies?😛 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 8:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/13 "2008-01-01T08:43:58Z")
> [@](#): > > Are there women who crave mens sweat? Pepe said he was into men’s sweat, but what about you ladies?😛 No I dont crave mens sweat or like the way a sweaty guy smells. But I will say I love the smell of men. Not when he is sweating and has BO like after a workout or something. Just the natural smell without any cover. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![xpomg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/f14d63/32.png) [@xpomg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xpomg)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/14 "2008-01-01T16:36:18Z")
“[Instant Sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/)”? Or was that a typo? ---
**Author:** ![sheba](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sheba/32/1664_2.png) [@sheba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheba)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2008, 5:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/15 "2008-01-02T05:02:42Z")
> [@xpomg](#): > > “Instant Sexiness B”? Or was that a typo? [Instant Sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/) is a more sex kittenish mix only available in the large bottle. It has TAH in it and has been called a Marilyn Monroe vibe. Instant Sexiness A is a more large and in charge femme mix. It has TAL in it and has been called an Angelina Jolie vibe. This is the one that comes in the to go size and the one you receive automatically if you do not specify in the large bottle. ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2008, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/16 "2008-01-02T06:29:59Z")
> [@xpomg](#): > > “Instant Sexiness B”? Or was that a typo? I believe that was my comment, and being a guy, I am far from being any kind on expert of womens mixes. But, the [Instant Sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/) was the product I intended to offer as a suggestion, as my thought was that the kittenish aspect of it could possibly tone down the alpha male aspect of A314. Again, being a guy though, I made sure to inform Doodee that my suggestion was far from a qualified answer to her question. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![xpomg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/f14d63/32.png) [@xpomg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/xpomg)\ **Post date:** [January 3, 2008, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-plus-cops-hideous-backlash/7914/17 "2008-01-03T08:16:09Z")
No Mark I literally didn’t know about the existance of IS/b. sheba explained it for me, “Yes it is an actual product not a typo” basically 🙂.