# \-none products **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [July 31, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-products/31158 "2009-07-31T17:18:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VikingIs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8797f3/32.png) [@VikingIs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/VikingIs)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-products/31158/1 "2009-07-31T17:18:05Z")
Hello, I have a couple questions about -none products. I tested Pheromax and NPA and both horribly stink. Is it the same with Androtics stuff? Producers say that it is because ‘the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) scent’. It is hard to believe that because another product P10 (Perfect Ten) is mostly -none based, but it doesn’t stink at all. I could only sense -nol a little. They say this is because pure -none doesn’t have any scent, but it is difficult to isolate it. So what is the true? ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-products/31158/2 "2009-07-31T17:28:02Z")
Androstenone smells differently depending on the person. I read that 30% of people can’t smell androstenone. Others think it smells like cat urine and some say it has a vanilla scent. Below is a link to a thread on the forum that might help answer your question. > [@The official "Can you smell androstenone" poll](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-can-you-smell-androstenone-poll/189837): > > It is frequently said that 30% of people cannot detect androstenone. I can smell the cat piss like odor. Other people think that it smells like sweat or b.o. It would be great if you want to post saying whether you hate the smell or not and what it smells like to you slight_smile Lets see if the numbers here justify the statistics data above smiley Thx for your participation ---
**Author:** ![VikingIs](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/8797f3/32.png) [@VikingIs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/VikingIs)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-products/31158/3 "2009-07-31T18:05:13Z")
ok, so if -none has a smell, so what is in P10 then? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-products/31158/4 "2009-07-31T18:10:23Z")
> [@VikingIs](#): > > ok, so if -none has a smell, so what is in P10 then? 🙂 Stone Labs tends to produce a less stinky ~none than other producers. Also NPA has some “secrets” in it that adds to the stink. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2009, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-products/31158/5 "2009-12-06T14:35:21Z")
I think the grade of synthesis along with the method of deriving it from its source into liquid form can make how none smells vary quite widely. NPA has a funk of its own. Considering none is only half of NPA’s make up it is interesting trying to figure out what could make it smell like this. At the same time The Edge for me at least smells different compared to NPA and thats from the same company as we all know. ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-products/31158/6 "2009-12-08T23:15:11Z")
The Edge _is_ NPA diluted to 1/5th strength.🙄 ---
**Author:** ![BKRF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@BKRF](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BKRF)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2009, 11:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-products/31158/7 "2009-12-12T11:54:43Z")
I’m new here, and have seen people mention “-none” in other threads. Can someone please tell me what it means? ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2009, 12:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-products/31158/8 "2009-12-12T12:05:21Z")
Androstenone is a [pheromone](https://a314.com/) that induces arousal/submission from people in general. It is said it is only very effective with women when they are ovulating. “None” is pretty much the mainstay sexual phero even though it isn’t exactly proper to label it this way as it doesn’t always invoke sexual response outright. It is the main driving pheromone of the product Turn up the Heat and is also contained in Ammunition as well. While probably being the most widely used pheromone among all in any product around it has the most residual effect being that you could stop applying mones for 1-3 days and -none could still be in effect when you go out as I’ve experienced O so many times lol. -None also has the probably the worst adverse effects when used improperly due to dose and lack of proper scrubbing of application areas. Hope that cleared up the term -none a bit. ---
**Author:** ![BKRF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f14d63/32.png) [@BKRF](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BKRF)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2009, 12:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-products/31158/9 "2009-12-12T12:30:45Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > Androstenone is a pheromone that induces arousal/submission from people in general. It is said it is only very effective with women when they are ovulating. > “None” is pretty much the mainstay sexual phero even though it isn’t exactly proper to label it this way as it doesn’t always invoke sexual response outright. > It is the main driving pheromone of the product Turn up the Heat and is also contained in Ammunition as well. While probably being the most widely used pheromone among all in any product around it has the most residual effect being that you could stop applying mones for 1-3 days and -none could still be in effect when you go out as I’ve experienced O so many times lol. -None also has the probably the worst adverse effects when used improperly due to dose and lack of proper scrubbing of application areas. > > Hope that cleared up the term -none a bit. Hell yeah it did. I was expecting a few word definition. lol Thanks!