# \-none, -rone, -nol explained

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720>\
**Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\
**Created:** [December 24, 2007, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720 "2007-12-24T04:30:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![Patratt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/patratt/32/971_2.png) [@Patratt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Patratt)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/1 "2007-12-24T04:30:29Z")

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Here is a description of all of these found on another site and as a newB I found it to be very helpful:

- Androstenone (a.k.a -none, Anone): Signals dominance and aggression, quite competitive. -none is often associated with a sexual response, but by no means exclusively.

- Androstenol (a.k.a -nol, Anol): Signals youth, and sociability, often induces lots of talking, friendliness and comfort. As it often seems to cause conversation, it can be a good ice breaker.

- Androsterone (a.k.a -rone, Arone): Signals masculinity. It also creates an impression of reliability and protection (i.e. “this is the alpha male who can look after me”).

- Copulins (a.k.a cops): Secreted in women’s vaginas during ovulation, these are a collection of fatty acids and other biological molecules that serve to induce copulation. It is said that if a man smells Copulins on a woman, she is judged to be more attractive.  
Can I get the veterans/experts on here to explain to us beginners just what Androtics products are what? Just some help with the beginners products. Something to the effect of:

Androsterones - A314  
Androstenols - [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)  
Copulins - Instant Jerk

Thank you all for your help.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 11:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/2 "2007-12-24T11:14:05Z")

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Hello

Well we cant tell you exactly what is in each one, trade secrets and all that 😉 but we can point you in the right direction without giving away any specific recipe. These are estimates from info MH and Jasmin have discussed in forum.

Ammo has 2.5 Androstenone Androsterone and Alpha Androstenol

Ammo1.5 which is special custom order has the origonal formula plus TAA.  
**1.5 is no longer sold.**

Turn Up The Heat is 2.5 Androstenone with 7 other steering compounds no buffers

Instant Openness is Alpha Androstenol (2 human mones)

Instant Honesty is Beta Androstenol (3 human mones)

Instant Shine has 3 pheromones in in but is mostly altered TAA

A314 is 80% AndrosterRONE and has I believe 11 to 16 other pheromones in the other 20%

[Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is mostly [Androstadienone](https://a314.com/shop/) (3 human mones) DISCONTINUED

Instant Jerk is Androstenone and copulins NO LONGER CONTAIN COPULINS

IG is Androsterone with modifiers suspected to be TAC/TAK

The T series is exclusive to Androtics at least by the names we use for them like TAL TAH TAC TAA ect…

On to the ladies.

Our IFM is slightly less buffered then the mens for maximum comfort. DISCONTINUED

Instant sexiness A is TAL heavy, small amount of TAH and some undisclosed pheromones (5 human mones)

Instant sexiness B is TAH heavy, small amount of TAL and undisclosed pheromones.

The rest are the same as the guys products.

I think that about covers it.

Whoops forgot Spaceland thats high high dosages of Alpha Androstenol 50mcg per spray DISCONTINUED

whoopsie again forgot the pre release

Dirty is anone and copulins in a oil carrier DISCONTINUED

CTTM2 is Alpha Androstenol and bnol 50/50 DISCONTINUED

LAM copulins and nols DISCONTINUED

Tisha

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 5:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/3 "2007-12-24T17:13:00Z")

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[Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/shop/) is anon and copulins  
Tisha do you mean androstanone or androstenone? Just for clarity. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Patratt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/patratt/32/971_2.png) [@Patratt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Patratt)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2007, 5:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/4 "2007-12-24T17:32:22Z")

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Thank you Tish! That is awesome! That is a great explanation!

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2007, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/5 "2007-12-29T19:28:11Z")

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> [@renny](#):
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> [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) is anon and copulins  
> Tisha do you mean androstanone or androstenone? Just for clarity. 🙂

Im sorry, Yes I do renny thank you LOL Left a letter out 😛

Tisha

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**Author:** ![lifeissweet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/97f17d/32.png) [@lifeissweet](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lifeissweet)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/6 "2008-05-05T04:51:33Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
>
> Hello
> 
> Well we cant tell you exactly what is in each one, trade secrets and all that 😉 but we can point you in the right direction without giving away any specific recipe.
> 
> Ammo has 2.5 Androstenone Androsterone and Alpha Androstenol
> 
> Ammo1.5 which is special custom order has the origonal formula plus TAA.  
> **1.5 is no longer sold.**
> 
> Turn Up The Heat is 2.5 Androstenone with no buffers
> 
> Instant Openness is Alpha Androstenol
> 
> Instant Honesty is Beta Androstenol
> 
> Instant Shine has 3 pheromones in in but is mostly altered TAA
> 
> A314 is 80% AndrosterRONE and has I believe 11 to 16 other pheromones in the other 20%
> 
> Instant Female Magic is mostly[Androstadienone](https://a314.com/shop/)
> 
> Instant Jerk is anone and copulins
> 
> IG is Androsterone with modifiers suspected to be TAC/TAK
> 
> The T series is exclusive to Androtics at least by the names we use for them like TAL TAH TAC TAA ect…
> 
> On to the ladies.
> 
> Our IFM is slightly less buffered then the mens for maximum comfort.
> 
> Instant sexiness A is TAL heavy, copulins, small amount of TAH and some undisclosed pheromones
> 
> Instant sexiness B is TAH heavy, copulins, small amount of TAL and undisclosed pheromones.
> 
> The rest are the same as the guys products.
> 
> I think that about covers it.
> 
> Whoops forgot Spaceland thats high high dosages of Alpha Androstenol 50mcg per spray
> 
> whoopsie again forgot the pre release
> 
> Dirty is anone and copulins in a oil carrier
> 
> CTTM2 is Alpha Androstenol and bnol 50/50
> 
> LAM copulins and nols
> 
> Tisha

and Patratt post too.

Tisha, this information is great. Why is this not posted at the sticky thread? Just wondering…

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 9:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/7 "2008-05-05T09:16:58Z")

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Cause were picky about our stickies LOL

There are so many useful threads that it can be tough to move them all to stickies. It gets to be to much like in the mens section. I was thinking of making a post in there of must read stickies with the links and then releasing some of them into the forum. This way the members can just use the link. I will have to talk to steveO and Jasmin though first and see what they think.

Tisha

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**Post date:** [May 5, 2008, 6:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/8 "2008-05-05T18:42:09Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
>
> I will have to talk to steveO and Jasmin though first and see what they think.
> 
> Tisha

"It’s easier to obtain forgiveness than to get permission–Admiral Grace Hopper 😃

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**Author:** ![ponderu](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ponderu/32/465_2.png) [@ponderu](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ponderu)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 7:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/9 "2008-05-06T07:54:58Z")

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Thank you Tisha  
Ponderu

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**Post date:** [May 6, 2008, 7:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/10 "2008-05-06T19:28:52Z")

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What does androstadienone signal?It doesnt appear to be dominance or masculinity, perhaps the latter to a very small degree. It appears to be much more subtle, perhaps youth, sociability, friendliness and comfort, but it seems to project an aura of “i am a comfortable safe male who wouldnt hurt you” to females that can sometimes make them happyer approaching you… It also, in my opinion, puts you on womens “phero radar” and biologically, is probably designed to be secreted in combination with other compounds. Perhaps, being more of a carrier or dispersal agent, since, as I have read, it is the most abudant compound in male sweat.

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**Author:** ![Lillith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lillith/32/2355_2.png) [@Lillith](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lillith)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2008, 2:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/11 "2008-05-08T02:04:40Z")

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Is there an Androtics product that is AndrosteRONE and copulins?

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/12 "2008-05-08T21:43:20Z")

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No Lillith, not with rone and cops.

You could by a bottle of rone and use eow with it and see how it go’s

Tisha

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**Post date:** [May 8, 2008, 11:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/13 "2008-05-08T23:41:49Z")

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If AndrosteNONE has been combined with copulins, why hasn’t AndrosteRONE been mixed with copulins?

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 12:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/14 "2008-05-09T00:13:12Z")

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I really dont know, it would make a good experiment though.

Usually if a test mix has cops or anone in it they will indicate that it does. They may have mixes that have both arone and cops with a bunch of other mones but not just those two.

hopefully some new test mixes will be coming soon and maybe that will be one of them.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 3:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/15 "2008-05-09T03:01:06Z")

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> [@Lillith](#):
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> If AndrosteNONE has been combined with copulins, why hasn’t AndrosteRONE been mixed with copulins?

AndrosteRONE would add the scent of a dominant male; not good for females trying to enhance their young and fertile scent.

James V. Kohl

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**Author:** ![Lillith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lillith/32/2355_2.png) [@Lillith](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lillith)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2008, 11:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/16 "2008-05-09T23:01:20Z")

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I can understand why AndrosteRONE and copulins would not be the most ideal product for women.

I’m just curious if there is some science behind the reason why it appears no one has made a product for men that contains copulins and AndrosteRONE.

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**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/17 "2008-05-10T01:42:48Z")

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> [@Lillith](#):
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> I’m just curious if there is some science behind the reason why it appears no one has made a product for men that contains copulins and AndrosteRONE.

Mixed message, again. Copulins = femininity; androsterone = masculinity.

James V. Kohl

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**Author:** ![Lillith](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lillith/32/2355_2.png) [@Lillith](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lillith)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 6:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/18 "2008-05-10T18:52:26Z")

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Thanks J.V., your post was very helpful.🙂

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**Post date:** [May 10, 2008, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/19 "2008-05-10T22:51:35Z")

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Never know.. mixed message might be good.. a man in touch with his feminine side might attract some ladies..  
Ponderu

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2008, 9:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/none-rone-nol-explained/7720/20 "2008-05-11T09:36:53Z")

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> [@jvkohl](#):
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> Mixed message, again. Copulins = femininity; androsterone = masculinity.
> 
> James V. Kohl

Is it good for gay?

Well, I am not gay. Just curious

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