# Noob help & Summer Ammo depressing? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 12, 2013, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-help-summer-ammo-depressing/58148 "2013-02-12T18:46:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Mysterion](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mysterion/32/986_2.png) [@Mysterion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mysterion)\ **Post date:** [February 16, 2013, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-help-summer-ammo-depressing/58148/21 "2013-02-16T06:17:32Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Do you think Summer AMMO p75 and 1 spray of tuth can get one laid with VERY YOUNG girls (21 or so white)? I am over 35 and my none levels aren’t super high anymore but I’m wondering if women that age like tuth. If the women prefer much older guys and are into you then yes, I think so. > [@dsouza](#): > > Also what are your thoughts on IS AMMO p75 IO IH for dating, and adding in a spray of tuth in there too for sex? Will this work with early 20’s white women or is the ammo tuth in there too much? I am blood type O and as I said before over 35. I am east indian. For young men that mix would be coming on much too strong, you however can give it a try. Note that what I said applies to the sexual part; u dont wear all those sexual mones at the beginning of the date. I personally would wash IO IH off and spray on Tuth when sexy time starts, and then we’d be at IS Ammo P75 Tuth which is way too much for a young woman if shes with a none producing machine (young man). You can try it. ---
**Author:** ![gforcex7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b38774/32.png) [@gforcex7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gforcex7)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2013, 11:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-help-summer-ammo-depressing/58148/22 "2013-03-11T23:10:05Z")
> [@Dwei](#): > > Summer Ammo I have tried twice. 2 sprays the first time by itself. > > Second time 1 spray plus 3 spray IS. > > Both times it made me feel depressed and kind of weak/ non masculine. I am 23 white. Is this something that others have noticed? I will try it a few more times but I feel like I wasted 50 bucks on something that makes me depressed and hasnt gotten any hits Ive really noticed. > > And below are a few tests Ive done and some things Ive noticed. Havent really found the right mix apparently. If anyone feels like reading through and giving me some tips that would be cool. > > Instant Gentlemen 2.5 sprays and 2 sprays from IH togo got me some incredible hits… from a couple of 50 year old receptionists. Im 23 and looking for girls in the 18-25 range. So not really what Im looking for. They were really funny though. Just swooning over me like a couple of school girls. Got me an appointment 2 months ahead the earliest opening so I see the power of mones I just need to get the right mix. > > IG 1.5 sprays and 3 IS sprays made me feel great. Relaxed, confident, masculine. Only 1 hit that I could see. Girl in class kept looking at me. But there were many girls in the class and she wasnt particularly good looking so… guess I need to keep experimenting. > > I tried 1 spray IG, 2 spray IO, 1 to go spray tuth. I think that one Tuth made me OD even though it was under my shirt and buffered with the other stuff. The girl next to me was really fidgety and looked kind of pissed off and basically sprinted out of class when the bell rang lol. > > I want to give off kind of a young, virile, masculine, yet fun and approachable vibe to get 18-25 year old girls. I figure a club/ party mix would be easier with none, but Im having difficulty finding something for a college class/ college campus type surrounding. > > I thought Summer Ammo would be perfect for that but I feel like it doesnt have enough kick. It makes me feel depressed and weak. Rather than confident. And apparently I cant add much none because I guess I OD easy. I think 2x Summer Ammo made me OD but I cant be sure. You didn’t waste 50 bucks. Just don’t mix the two lol ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-help-summer-ammo-depressing/58148/23 "2013-03-14T09:15:56Z")
The more I use [Summer Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) mixed with P75 the more I realize it get a lot of talk, looks, smiles, and jolly moods from young girls in the 20’s but the more I realize its terribly beta.. You will be seen as a beta male who girls find easy to talk too.. Quite frankly the attraction is not very sexual at all. Great for getting friends and going out to relaxing environments where the goal is to socialize and not really score a date with a woman. I have tried summer ammo numerous times to find beautful young woman talking to me only to be appauled when I close for a phone number or date.. Sometimes they actually like to tease me and then RUN.. Sometimes literally they just take off. I don’t seem to have this problem with ammo p75 and its socials, nor with p75 and socials. Ammo IS on its own is a sexy, sweet , happy signature but also cuts your balls off (meaning unless you have great game and know how to talk to a woman in the moment and full of loads of confidence it doesn’t help too much). I have always found p75 the magic ingredient to any mix..it’s gives you game in the moment by making you LIVE IN THE MOMENT with no doubt. For guys who aren’t terribly alpha and don’t always know what to say p75 will be that missing link. I will NEVER go without it unless someone can explain to me why I should. ---
**Author:** ![Dwei](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b77776/32.png) [@Dwei](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Dwei)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2013, 12:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-help-summer-ammo-depressing/58148/24 "2013-03-14T12:19:31Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > The more I use Summer Ammo mixed with P75 the more I realize it get a lot of talk, looks, smiles, and jolly moods from young girls in the 20’s but the more I realize its terribly beta.. You will be seen as a beta male who girls find easy to talk too.. > > Quite frankly the attraction is not very sexual at all. Great for getting friends and going out to relaxing environments where the goal is to socialize and not really score a date with a woman. > > I have tried summer ammo numerous times to find beautful young woman talking to me only to be appauled when I close for a phone number or date.. Sometimes they actually like to tease me and then RUN.. Sometimes literally they just take off. > > I don’t seem to have this problem with ammo p75 and its socials, nor with p75 and socials. > > Ammo IS on its own is a sexy, sweet , happy signature but also cuts your balls off (meaning unless you have great game and know how to talk to a woman in the moment and full of loads of confidence it doesn’t help too much). > > I have always found p75 the magic ingredient to any mix..it’s gives you game in the moment by making you LIVE IN THE MOMENT with no doubt. For guys who aren’t terribly alpha and don’t always know what to say p75 will be that missing link. I will NEVER go without it unless someone can explain to me why I should. Regular Ammo is beta also? So I should definitely get P75? 2.5mcg? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-help-summer-ammo-depressing/58148.md?page=1)