# Noob with a question **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 23, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-with-a-question/14305 "2008-06-23T14:29:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![chiefraven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5daacb/32.png) [@chiefraven](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/chiefraven)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-with-a-question/14305/1 "2008-06-23T14:29:52Z")
Hi guys, I’m new here…and to the world of Pheromone. I’ve did a google search on pheromone and it spit out so many pheromone products, and lots of [pheromone colognes](https://a314.com/shop/)..however, i dont really see any of them discussed in this forum. At the same time, everyone here seem to talk about the same products… such as instant shine…etc is it because the forum is affiliated with the company that produces these items? just wondering. and most of these products all have very similar effects… are they really effective? and have their own distinct attributes? 'cuz i see a bunch of them regarding sexuality, and a bunch of them for confidence. seems like ever pheromone forum has their own products ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 3:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-with-a-question/14305/2 "2008-06-23T15:28:43Z")
> [@chiefraven](#): > > I’ve did a google search on pheromone and it spit out so many pheromone products, and lots of pheromone colognes..however, i dont really see any of them discussed in this forum. At the same time, everyone here seem to talk about the same products… such as instant shine…etc > > is it because the forum is affiliated with the company that produces these items? personally I have used several of the other [Pheromone colognes](https://a314.com/shop/) and sprays, some will slight effects, some with little effect. In my opinion most of the products are inferior to the Smartmones product lines. > [@chiefraven](#): > > and most of these products all have very similar effects… are they really effective? and have their own distinct attributes? 'cuz i see a bunch of them regarding sexuality, and a bunch of them for confidence. > > seems like ever pheromone forum has their own products I have seen similar products that have a slight effect, but not many as tunable as these, Most of the forums bait, censor, and load their posts making their products look and sound the best, I haven’t seen that here, the most notable is Pherlure who all the testimonials are guys getting supermodels, (yeah right) With my own personal testing I am finding they really do have the listed effects, not just self or imagined ones. and they work on most all women or men, not just the good looking ones, so you have to use caution. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 23, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-with-a-question/14305/3 "2008-06-23T19:06:26Z")
This is a forum associated and linked with the Androtics commercial site, so posters tend to end up here and post about the products they just bought. However the mods seem to welcome discussion of most products, save posting of links to other commercial sites and wholesalers. So no plot to disallow other products. The problem is most of the members are happy with what they use and are not prone to wander off and try something else. The “don’t fit it if it ain’t broke” sorta thing. The most common non-Androtics products to be discussed here are those sold at LS, e.g., EW, Scent of Eros, The Edge, NPA, etc. LS also has a forum, albeit not as active as this one, if you need more detailed chatter about those products (most of which I still enjoy using). ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-with-a-question/14305/4 "2008-06-24T00:57:23Z")
Hello Cheif Welcome to Pherotalk Yes this is the Androtics smartmones forum affiliated with there store so we talk mainly about there products. If you take a look around you will see that people report the good the bad and the ugly without being censored. Androtics is confident with there products and apprieciates the feedback one way or the other. You can also get a lot of help learning to use the products here. We do talk about other products by name (no links allowed) Some of us use products from LS or other companies as well. LS does have a forum but it is censored and you can only talk about what they sell. Still a good company though. This forum is active because people enjoy the products. They work as long as you understand what [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) can do and what they cant do. (link in my signature below) . No hype here 😉 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-with-a-question/14305/5 "2008-06-24T09:34:09Z")
Androtics is one of the 2 main suppliers of pheromones to have a community forum, and this is a huge plus. Anyone can go get a bottle of deer piss at Wal-mart, mix in a little sandalwood or other EO, whip up a page calling it the greatest pheromone on Earth from a template and slap it online. That’s pretty much what you see when you search for Pheromones, besides this place and LoveScent. The difference between Androtics and LoveScent is that Androtics produces its products in-house, while LoveScent is just a distributer of other companies’ products. The advantage is that the actual mixers of the products you buy here have ready access to the forums and feedback goes directly where it needs to. Now, as has been stated, the LoveScent folks are good people, albeit a little heavy-handed on their forums, but they do sell some quality products, which come recommended as strongly by regulars here as by the LS community members. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cab0a1/32.png) [@Daddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daddy)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 7:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-with-a-question/14305/6 "2008-06-24T19:52:28Z")
> [@data4](#): > > The difference between Androtics and LoveScent is that Androtics produces its products in-house, while LoveScent is just a distributer of other companies’ products. The advantage is that the actual mixers of the products you buy here have ready access to the forums and feedback goes directly where it needs to. Huh? Then why do the Androtics bottles all say “Boca Raton, FL”? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 24, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-with-a-question/14305/7 "2008-06-24T21:42:33Z")
Because they used to be in Boco Raton before the moved to Cally. Why waste good labels 😃 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cab0a1/32.png) [@Daddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daddy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 3:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-with-a-question/14305/8 "2008-06-25T03:00:27Z")
That sounds very interestiong. I’d love to hear how that came about. Once upon a time, please? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noob-with-a-question/14305/9 "2008-06-25T11:07:18Z")
> [@Daddy](#): > > That sounds very interestiong. I’d love to hear how that came about. Once upon a time, please? 🙂 Once upon a time Jasmin was out in the yard huntin up some grub when out of the thin air came a bubbling pheromone king (MHarris) , Well the next thing you know ole Jasmin is a phero goddess and the kin folk said “Jas move away from here, They said callyfornee is the place you ought to be” So she loaded up the truck and she moved to Beverly Snort hows that LOL Here is th scaled down version Well they started out in Florida at least smartmones and there mailing service, the lab may have always been in Cally and as the business grew Jasmin realized that PUA and NLP training was useful and pheromone users are interested in these subjects so the packed up the moving van and moved out to LA where all the action is. Jasmin announced a while back that they were looking to relocate again, not far from LA but close enough so they could travel to important meetings and seminars and have a better selection of employees to choose from. Apparantly good help is hard to find in LA which is why we adore April so much While Androtics and smartmones are the same technically Smartmones is the online stoe and Androtics is the Lab that produces the pheromones. Mharris is the man behind the pheromones. Jasmin Manages the lab and business. Here is a little post by Jasmin bettr explaining it. If you do a search there are tibbits and announcements all over the forum about the growth of the business. > [@This is where the magic is done (St Andrews) slight\_smile](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/this-is-where-the-magic-is-done-st-andrews/11639/4): > > That’s where our mail service used to be in Florida. We haven’t been in Florida for years. Our current mail service is in lovely Beverly Hills, with the lab and shipping work happening a bit further east… right near Glendale, California. That’s a fairly normal area, compared to most of Los Angeles. That let us hire some people who weren’t “so LA”. Our next step (hopefully) is a tech campus. Or at least a little mini-Google type campus or building somewhere nice. I visited Google last year, an… Tisha