# Noobie combos and psycological edge **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 26, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noobie-combos-and-psycological-edge/20365 "2008-09-26T19:04:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sgorban](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sgorban](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sgorban)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noobie-combos-and-psycological-edge/20365/1 "2008-09-26T19:04:36Z")
Its been a few weeks so here is what I settled on so far: About me: 36, white, in decent shape, I have always been a social person able to have a conversation with anyone. Work: 2 drops A314 2 sprays [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 1 spray instant honesty It is a extremely diverse environment, age/race/gender I came down from 3 drops of A314 this combo so far works very well. I am received by upper management friendlier, I went to another director to ask about transferring and she was extremely helpful offering all sorts of help, shocked me. People under me seem to work better at trying to please me when I have requests. General social: 2 drops A314 3 sprays Ammo 1 spray instant honesty 1 spray turn up the heat I might go to 1 drop A314 but so far its a nice combo, people are more at ease. Again this is also a wide audience so I try to keep a balance without OD Private time with someone special: 1 spray turn up the heat before dressing on my fun spot 3 sprays turn up heat after dressing 2 sprays Ammo - I get constant response from the good smell 1 drop A314 (sometimes) This has made for some great nights much quicker responses when I make my move and a couple times she initiated. I am still weighing the A314, at first it seems to make her a little shy, like I am overbearing but once we get in bed I think it puts a little more in control which she enjoys. If you can keep her comfortable I would recommend it On the prowl: 2-3 sprays Ammo 2-4 sprays turn up the heat 1 drop A314 - Change to 0 drops from current experience 1 spray instant honesty - Change to 2 sprays from current experience This amount really varies on the situation, small house party I go lower if its a crowded bar I go highest. I still have some tweaking, I went out last night and I think I had to much on, my first invisible experience, even the bartender came by me as little as possible and I go there often, they dont all know me to well but every other time she and the other female bartenders were very chatty. That is all I have in my arsenal, it seems like a good “starter” pack. The instant honesty is great at work, people definately started telling me more then normal. For the psycological edge, I am a big believer this becomes a snowball effect pheros are not a magic bullet but it gives you a little edge, then you feel better so you act stronger, then the pheros build you up a little more, so you act better, etc I walk into anywhere with such great confidence, I never had any major issues before but, I guess the only way to describe it is I feel great. Just to repeat, personality is a huge factor if you sit in the corner looking at the ground you could bath in pheros and nothing will change. ---
**Author:** ![ntk23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/65b543/32.png) [@ntk23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ntk23)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 8:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noobie-combos-and-psycological-edge/20365/2 "2008-09-26T20:37:41Z")
> [@sgorban](#): > > About me: > 36, white, in decent shape, I have always been a social person able to have a conversation with anyone. This is a one-sentence description that would fit me too! I am also a pretty outgoing person, which you need to be to give the pheros a chance to work, you’re right. I have been very interested in things like body language and stuff like that too, for a few years, which means I have been carrying out my observations of people well before I ever started using these products, which was but a month ago, well 6 weeks I think. So I cannot help noticing how easier [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) make reading body language, because even without swimming in DIHLs on a daily basis, I notice reactions that are just that bit more exaggerated than usual. Reps for your good post. 2-4 sprays of TUTH… well, it depends on context as well, like you said. I think of where I am going to be before I apply -none, the full demographic deal and everything 🙂 Yes, I have been on a roll myself recently with a lot of hits, quite a few DIHLs, and it gets easier the more feedback you get, the word “momentum” springs to mind 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noobie-combos-and-psycological-edge/20365/3 "2008-09-26T21:02:58Z")
> [@sgorban](#): > > On the prowl: > 2-3 sprays Ammo > 2-4 sprays turn up the heat > 1 drop A314 > 1 spray instant honesty > This amount really varies on the situation, small house party I go lower if its a crowded bar I go highest. I still have some tweaking, I went out last night and I think I had to much on, my first invisable experience, even the bartender came by me as little as possible and I go there often, they dont all know me to well but every other time she and the other female bartenders were very chatty. Have you tried this without the A314? Maybe this is too intimidating with all of that -none AND the A314. > [@sgorban](#): > > For the psycological edge, I am a big believer this becomes a snowball effect pheros are not a magic bullet but it gives you a little edge, then you feel better so you act stronger, then the pheros build you up a little more, so you act better, etc I walk into anywhere with such great confidence, I never had any major issues before but, I guess the only way to describe it is I feel great. > > Just to repeat, personality is a huge factor if you sit in the corner looking at the ground you could bath in pheros and nothing will change. Ditto. Reps to ya! Nice report. ---
**Author:** ![sgorban](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sgorban](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sgorban)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noobie-combos-and-psycological-edge/20365/4 "2008-09-26T21:44:34Z")
> [@river](#): > > Have you tried this without the A314? Maybe this is too intimidating with all of that -none AND the A314. I am going to a house party tomorrow, about 30 people and I am going to try without the A314, you might be right. Last night I had it when I got the invisible effect ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noobie-combos-and-psycological-edge/20365/5 "2008-09-26T21:51:28Z")
Great! That sounds like prime experimentation ground to me! Maybe even try a 2nd spray of [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). I can’t wait to hear your results! Keep us posted. ---
**Author:** ![lukester19](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lukester19/32/1953_2.png) [@lukester19](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lukester19)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noobie-combos-and-psycological-edge/20365/6 "2008-09-26T22:34:14Z")
I am going to watch this thread. Tell us how the party goes. I am going to try a similar combination to that one also to a house party so i would like to see how it works for you. ---
**Author:** ![sgorban](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8edcca/32.png) [@sgorban](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sgorban)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2008, 4:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noobie-combos-and-psycological-edge/20365/7 "2008-09-28T16:42:13Z")
Well river you were right, without the A314 it was much better. I had 1 girl I was hanging with most of the night and then another started flirting with me, within a bit they were giving each other the evil eye, I am sure it was my winning personality but the pheros definitely helped. So for any interested don’t use the A314 when on the prowl, it does seem to OD with the others. lukester19, I would recommend the combo I had a great time and it seems very well balanced with the extra [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) FYI on the girls: 1 33 Asian 2 32 Black 3 36 White What can I say I am an EOE person… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noobie-combos-and-psycological-edge/20365/8 "2008-09-29T14:41:20Z")
sgorban - Great report and HITS! Reps for trying something different!! Sounds like a winning combo! I’ll bet you felt like the cat who ate the canary sitting between those two women 😃 lukester10, we’ll be waiting for your report next!🙂 ~~River ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 2:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noobie-combos-and-psycological-edge/20365/9 "2008-09-29T14:52:21Z")
lukester19, I just realized that you are 21 years old. You may want to experiment with sgorban’s TUTH dosage in his combo. Younger men usually produce more pheros naturally, so maybe start with 2 sprays first, see what reactions you get, and then work from there. I wouldn’t want you to OD with too much -none and end up with negative reactions. Just my 2 cents worth! Good luck! ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2008, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/noobie-combos-and-psycological-edge/20365/10 "2008-09-29T14:53:53Z")
sgorban, I tried giving you reps but I get a message saying to “spread the love around” so I’ll have to get ya another time! 🙂