# Nootropics: any personal advice or experience to share? **URL:** \ **Category:** Lounge\ **Created:** [January 19, 2008, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430 "2008-01-19T02:28:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![TRDE59](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trde59/32/412_2.png) [@TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TRDE59)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/21 "2008-01-21T01:20:26Z")
> [@bubblebob](#): > > šŸ˜ƒ The whole packet PEA contains only 120 mg! So that stuff seems to have been a waste of moneyā€¦ > > My Phenibut comes from Relentless Improvement. Iā€™ve been using it before, but not very often. I didnā€™t even feel much of a change the last times Iā€™ve taken it. > > Well, I guess I should stick to cardio and weight lifting for improving my mood - that has proven to be the most beneficial. And itā€™s for free! Yeah, unfortunately you develop a tolerance to phenibut very quickly, and it takes a looong time to reverse it. Well, normal phenibut, that is šŸ˜‰ Go here [NeuroBalance (8 Fl oz) By: IBE](http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/ibe/neurobalance-8-fl-oz.html) Itā€™s phenibut with a carrier molecule attached making it easier to cross the blood-brain barrier. It may seem expensive compared to the normal phenibut, but that bottle will last you a while. Itā€™s no more expensive than IS, anyway šŸ˜ƒ . Itā€™s about twice as strong as regular phenibut, so 500mg will feel like a gram of regular, and tolerance develops MUCH more slowly. A guy reviewing it on that siteā€™s forums said that as an experiment he took a serving every day until he finished the bottle (lasted him about two months that way) and he didnā€™t develop tolerance at all. Iā€™ve tried it and it works like a charm every time (although I would only use it as needed, maybe 1 or 2 times per week at most). Lol at the PEA packet. It wasnā€™t very expensive, though, was it? It shouldnā€™t have been. Like, seriously, if you **only** paid a **dollar** for 120mg, you got ripped off. But yes, weight lifting and cardio pwn all others when it comes to good mood. ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 7:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/22 "2008-01-21T07:19:56Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Shipping is definitely one of the most expensive things in the world, especially now. Itā€™s not the shipping companies profiting so much. In business circles, Iā€™ve heard itā€™s the way for the government people who steal the oil and other resources, to steal trillions of dollars of $. Itā€™s like a tax on the entire world. After all, you _gotta_ ship. A pity we donā€™t have teleportation of objects yetā€¦ it would come in useful! šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![TRDE59](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trde59/32/412_2.png) [@TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TRDE59)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/23 "2008-01-21T09:15:22Z")
> [@Phoenix](#): > > A pity we donā€™t have teleportation of objects yetā€¦ it would come in useful! šŸ˜ƒšŸ˜ƒ lol. Iā€™m sure that once that technology becomes available to the public, the government would have already put in place ā€œtoll booth tracking beamsā€ that would transport you to another dimension and force you to stand in a long line to pay your fee before allowing you to arrive at your destination. ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 9:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/24 "2008-01-21T09:39:43Z")
> [@TRDE59](#): > > lol. Iā€™m sure that once that technology becomes available to the public, the government would have already put in place ā€œtoll booth tracking beamsā€ that would transport you to another dimension and force you to stand in a long line to pay your fee before allowing you to arrive at your destination. Although this could not be explained thru science, but mystics like the Sufis travelled great distant in seconds using this method since centuries ago!šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/25 "2008-01-21T12:32:54Z")
> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#): > > Although this could not be explained thru science, but mystics like the Sufis travelled great distant in seconds using this method since centuries ago!šŸ™‚ And the saints did bilocation too šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Izumisan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/edb3f5/32.png) [@Izumisan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Izumisan)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 1:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/26 "2008-01-21T13:23:35Z")
Is the PEA you guys are referring to the same as that which is produced when you are infatuated? I have ADD, and the last time I was infatuated coincided with being taken off Concerta. I couldnā€™t believe how much better I functioned while head over heels, and how incredibly difficult it was to have my heart get broken (in part, I guess, because it placed me in PEA and dopamine withdrawal?) ---
**Author:** ![TRDE59](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trde59/32/412_2.png) [@TRDE59](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TRDE59)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 1:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/27 "2008-01-21T13:51:59Z")
> [@Mohammad\_Shah](#): > > Although this could not be explained thru science, but mystics like the Sufis travelled great distant in seconds using this method since centuries ago!šŸ™‚ Sufisā€¦ ā€¦ Like Jasmin? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 12:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/28 "2008-01-22T00:27:44Z")
> [@TRDE59](#): > > Sufisā€¦ > > ā€¦ > > Like Jasmin? šŸ˜ƒ She has a near characteristic like one.šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 9:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/29 "2008-01-22T09:13:58Z")
> [@TRDE59](#): > > Yeah, unfortunately you develop a tolerance to phenibut very quickly, and it takes a looong time to reverse it. Well, normal phenibut, that is šŸ˜‰ > > Go here [NeuroBalance (8 Fl oz) By: IBE](http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/ibe/neurobalance-8-fl-oz.html) > > Itā€™s phenibut with a carrier molecule attached making it easier to cross the blood-brain barrier. It may seem expensive compared to the normal phenibut, but that bottle will last you a while. Itā€™s no more expensive than IS, anyway šŸ˜ƒ . Itā€™s about twice as strong as regular phenibut, so 500mg will feel like a gram of regular, and tolerance develops MUCH more slowly. > > A guy reviewing it on that siteā€™s forums said that as an experiment he took a serving every day until he finished the bottle (lasted him about two months that way) and he didnā€™t develop tolerance at all. Iā€™ve tried it and it works like a charm every time (although I would only use it as needed, maybe 1 or 2 times per week at most). > > Lol at the PEA packet. It wasnā€™t very expensive, though, was it? It shouldnā€™t have been. Like, seriously, if you **only** paid a **dollar** for 120mg, you got ripped off. > > But yes, weight lifting and cardio pwn all others when it comes to good mood. _cough_ my PEA was 35$ _cough_ šŸ˜ƒ Thanks for that suggestion, but I had a very difficult time importing Phenibut from outside of the EU last time - in fact I only got it because the id\*\*t at the customs threw away the wrong bottleā€¦ šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Mohammad\_Shah](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mohammad_shah/32/873_2.png) [@Mohammad\_Shah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mohammad_Shah)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 9:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/30 "2008-01-22T09:47:18Z")
Really interesting stuff you have here! Perhaps I should try it. My brain neuros have stop working since President Nixon resigned!šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/31 "2008-07-10T20:00:01Z")
Hey any chance any of yall ever found any Nootropics/Smartdrugs which were effective for Panic Anxiety Disorders? ---
**Author:** ![douche](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/douche/32/1144_2.png) [@douche](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/douche)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 9:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/32 "2008-07-10T21:49:30Z")
I have extensively used Modafinil and Adrafinil for their wakefulness promoting/ā€œfocusā€ inducing properties. These work wonders, especially modafinil. Modafinil is very expensive if you donā€™t get it from the right place and adrafinil is much cheaper. Adrafinil is metabolized in modafinil in the body about an hour after ingestionā€¦interesting stuff. I prefer adrafinil even though it can potentially be more dangerous to the liver because modafinil give me headaches. If you are interested in getting either of these, PM me and i will tell you the best and cheapest sites for purchasing them. The only nootropic/smart drug that i can think of for panic/anxiety disorders might be picamillone. Iā€™m not sure about others because most of them are for improving cognition and stuff like that. ---
**Author:** ![MeDieViL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/medievil/32/1650_2.png) [@MeDieViL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MeDieViL)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430/33 "2008-07-11T17:30:26Z")
i recently started taking resveratrol, aniracitam, pyritinol, Nac, rhodiola and alcar, but one of them is making my bloodpressure too drop too much and i still didnt figure out wich one of them nootropics are a waste of time for anxiety disorder, is youve got social anxiety then the only meds that might help are amisulpiride, nardil,lyrica, ghb (can be very addicting and opiates also very addicting) [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nootropics-any-personal-advice-or-experience-to-share/8430.md?page=1)