# Not good looking: Instant Shine, Ammo and inner game over looks **URL:** \ **Category:** Really Awesome Social Awareness Training\ **Created:** [April 15, 2007, 12:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637 "2007-04-15T12:30:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![leto44](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@leto44](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leto44)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 12:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/1 "2007-04-15T12:30:02Z")
**You may view and post in the original thread here:** [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-use-when-youre-not-good-looking/3141](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-to-use-when-youre-not-good-looking/3141) Can I compensate the attractivness of a good look? ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 3:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/2 "2007-04-15T15:26:52Z")
[Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) perhaps? ---
**Author:** ![bmthint](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bmthint/32/1283_2.png) [@bmthint](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bmthint)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 4:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/3 "2007-04-15T16:01:14Z")
if u read some posts by gem or curiouspua u will find that women don really care about ure looks. granted it helps but if u have game they dont care. if u need a confiidence booster tho, try some shine and some ammo. i strongly recommend u reading some posts by gem and curiouspua tho ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 4:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/4 "2007-04-15T16:38:04Z")
I wear a paper bag and it suites me just fine. Seriously though man, lose the negativity about yourself. Look at my picture. I get lots of attention from the ladies. It’s all about your inner game and believing in yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Flip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/53a042/32.png) [@Flip](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Flip)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/5 "2007-04-15T16:50:14Z")
ahum, check this out: [http://youtube.com/results?search\_query=Seduction+School&search=Search](http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Seduction+School&search=Search) ---
**Author:** ![Carmine23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carmine23/32/1703_2.png) [@Carmine23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carmine23)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 5:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/6 "2007-04-15T17:14:45Z")
> [@Can pheromones make up for not being good looking?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/5): > > ahum, check this out: > [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=) Wow those guys have no game at all!!! They act like robots! But Leto44 that should help you out a lot!!! Nice post Flip!!! ---
**Author:** ![Flip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/53a042/32.png) [@Flip](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Flip)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/7 "2007-04-15T18:01:21Z")
Yeah it also helped me quite abit.. but only quite abit because I wasnt always sure if I am good looking or not (I guess I am?) Rep my post if you like 😃 Be sure to watch all 5 clips… its amazing how they end up 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Carmine23](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/carmine23/32/1703_2.png) [@Carmine23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Carmine23)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 6:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/8 "2007-04-15T18:20:50Z")
yeah I’m trying to watch all the clips, seriously I dint think there were guys like that!!! For me it just comes so natural to talk to girls I honestly didn’t think there were guys like that!!! ---
**Author:** ![Flip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/53a042/32.png) [@Flip](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Flip)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 6:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/9 "2007-04-15T18:34:22Z")
its called shy ma man 🙂 some people have it, some people dont. Sometimes non good lookin people arent shy.. but just cant even get into their game because the girls dont give them a chance. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/10 "2007-04-15T18:39:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Can I compensate the attractivness of a good look? This really isn’t a [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) matter. You need to workout, dress well, educate and refine yourself, get a good job, etc. Basically try harder and do things that show you care about yourself and are confident in who you are. Looks are nice but most women find status and personality more important than a pretty face. In other words, they find guys with their ducks in a row attractive, especially since they know there is future potential. Of course, you should make the most of your physical assets, even if they aren’t the best. Hell, women aren’t perfect either. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/11 "2007-04-15T18:46:17Z")
> [@Can pheromones make up for not being good looking?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/10): > > This really isn’t a pheromone matter. You need to workout, dress well, educate and refine yourself, get a good job, etc. Basically try harder and do things that show you care about yourself and are confident in who you are. Looks are nice but most women find status and personality more important than a pretty face. In other words, they find guys with their ducks in a row attractive, especially since they know there is future potential. Of course, you should make the most of your physical assets, even if they aren’t the best. Hell, women aren’t perfect either. Yup it’s so much more about inner game than anything else. I totally believe in myself and what I am doing in life. I have passion and this makes me attractive in the eyes of females. ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/12 "2007-04-15T18:49:35Z")
I’d say when you use [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), forget you even have them on. Don’t look for anything. Otherwise, if they aren’t working or you can’t tell they are working, it’s going to make your confidence worse. Better not to rely on them and reap the benefits when they come. But as others have said, it’s more about developing your self-confidence than anything else. If you can get to a point where you appreciate yourself as a man, than women will too. But don’t do it for women, do it for yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Flip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/53a042/32.png) [@Flip](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Flip)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/13 "2007-04-15T18:54:33Z")
> [@Can pheromones make up for not being good looking?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/12): > > I’d say when you use pheromones, forget you even have them on. Don’t look for anything. Otherwise, if they aren’t working or you can’t tell they are working, it’s going to make your confidence worse. > > Better not to rely on them and reap the benefits when they come. But as others have said, it’s more about developing your self-confidence than anything else. If you can get to a point where you appreciate yourself as a man, than women will too. But don’t do it for women, do it for yourself. Ma man, that’s pretty much impossible 😛😃 you can try… but youll never succeed unless you KNOW that they wont do anything. ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/14 "2007-04-15T19:27:20Z")
> [@Can pheromones make up for not being good looking?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/13): > > Ma man, that’s pretty much impossible 😛😃 you can try… but youll never succeed unless you KNOW that they wont do anything. It’s definitely hard to forget you have pheromones on. It actually happens a lot though after you’ve been using them so long, you don’t even think about it. I agree with your point though. My only concern is sometimes over-reliance can make the person’s problem worse. ---
**Author:** ![leto44](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@leto44](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leto44)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/15 "2007-04-15T20:01:42Z")
For me it’s not hard to talk to them, but when I talk to them it’s like they just don’t listen. Maybe it’s the things I say, but I’m not sure. The thing is, it wasn’t always like that, some years ago it was an easier thing for me to seduce them. Ones even a friend of one girl talked to me about her feelings for me! So I had the game ones, but now a half of it is gone. Maybe I’ve got uglier or there’s something about my chemistry. I’ll try to boost my “chemistry” with the pheromones. I’m working out, I eat heаlthy food, but I don’t have a healthy look, don’t know why. I’m a thin kinda guy, no muscles at all, maybe that’s why. ---
**Author:** ![leto44](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@leto44](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leto44)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 8:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/16 "2007-04-15T20:09:41Z")
> [@Can pheromones make up for not being good looking?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/can-pheromones-make-up-for-not-being-good-looking/3141/6): > > Wow those guys have no game at all!!! > They act like robots! > > But Leto44 that should help you out a lot!!! Nice post Flip!!! Tha fat guy is cool! He got the game. ---
**Author:** ![Flip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/53a042/32.png) [@Flip](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Flip)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/17 "2007-04-15T20:10:15Z")
show me a picture of yourself.. it might just be you thinking youre ugly.. if we know that it really isnt your outside (which doesnt matter alot) it will still help. Believe it or not, I have never seen anyone I couldnt possibly get into a relationship with.. a big fatty? So? I think about the inside. If you find out that their just not interested, get on with it, try the next one and perhaps try a different move. If it goes on and on.. I think it would be best if you stop at one girl and personally ask her why shes so silent and what she thinks of you and whats going on blabla. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/18 "2007-04-15T20:34:46Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m a thin kinda guy, no muscles at all, maybe that’s why. Right now, thin guys are in, especially in rock influenced culture. Perhaps a reaction to the fat boys of hip-hop culture? Hell, outside of “in da hood” fashion, tight jeans and fitted shirts are all the rage. Slender but healthy men are in. Go with it. ---
**Author:** ![m3turbo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@m3turbo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/m3turbo)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 9:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/19 "2007-04-15T21:30:34Z")
For people your age, looks don’t matter as much anyway. However Money does ,so work on that and behave with confidence with a slight bit of ego. No matter what they say women love to be treated like dirt. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2007, 11:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637/20 "2007-04-15T23:34:58Z")
> [@](#): > > No matter what they say women love to be treated like dirt. Please, please mention this in the woman’s forum. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-good-looking-instant-shine-ammo-and-inner-game-over-looks/23637.md?page=2)