# Not noticing effects! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 27, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-noticing-effects/52037 "2011-08-27T22:56:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jackdon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jackdon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jackdon)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 10:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-noticing-effects/52037/1 "2011-08-27T22:56:10Z")
Popped out to my local pub tonight testing out the Mones for the first time, 2 x sprays of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) (one either side of neck) 1 x spray on mx423 2 x sprays of IH (either side of wrists) and noticed little if not any effects, people did seem quite talkative, but i don’t know if it is just normal or what, any ideas from people? ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 11:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-noticing-effects/52037/2 "2011-08-27T23:21:02Z")
I haven’t tested mx423 but it sounds like you got what you were aiming for. Ammo has socials in it, IH is a social. The interesting and sometimes frustrating thing about pheros is that they don’t always get you in your face results. What were you looking to get as far as results? ---
**Author:** ![jackdon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jackdon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jackdon)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-noticing-effects/52037/3 "2011-08-27T23:42:50Z")
> [@2000GT](#): > > I haven’t tested mx423 but it sounds like you got what you were aiming for. Ammo has socials in it, IH is a social. The interesting and sometimes frustrating thing about pheros is that they don’t always get you in your face results. > > What were you looking to get as far as results? To get more noticed, see if i could spot girls looking at me, etc 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-noticing-effects/52037/4 "2011-08-27T23:51:45Z")
This might sound like a redundant question but, were you being social? Getting out there and talking to people? It’s rare that folks can get blatant hits, especially since pheros are like lube for the gears. It helps things move more quickly but ya still have to do the work. Even some of our more experienced members have off days where they don’t seem to get many hits. It’s also possible you may have had hits but didn’t notice them. Not all hits are in your face. In this section, there is a thread on the list of IOI’s. That’s a good place to start. Also studying body language helps too. You can pick up on more subtle cues that tend to get missed. As far as pheros go, it’s a good mix but I’d probably leave the mx out of the equation since AD prefers that MX’s are tested independently first. For accurate data. ---
**Author:** ![Raja\_the\_tiger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/raja_the_tiger/32/686_2.png) [@Raja\_the\_tiger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Raja_the_tiger)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 11:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-noticing-effects/52037/5 "2011-08-27T23:56:42Z")
I never noticed much at the very start of my use. And when I did start to notice the changes it was usually later in the day reflecting back. If you’re 20 1 spray of ammo is most likely all you need. And the MX423 is an experimental test mix, you should do a search to see what others have found its effects to be. ---
**Author:** ![DotCom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dotcom/32/2152_2.png) [@DotCom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DotCom)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2011, 12:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-noticing-effects/52037/6 "2011-08-28T00:08:39Z")
> [@Raja\_the\_tiger](#): > > I never noticed much at the very start of my use. And when I did start to notice the changes it was usually later in the day reflecting back. > > If you’re 20 1 spray of ammo is most likely all you need. And the MX423 is an experimental test mix, you should do a search to see what others have found its effects to be. Actually, for MX mixes, you should really test them out yourself before you research it. If you read up on other people’s experiences, it steers your brain into a certain direction misleading your brain into thinking thats how its supposed to work. Remember: MXs and putatives all work differently for everyone. ---
**Author:** ![Raja\_the\_tiger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/raja_the_tiger/32/686_2.png) [@Raja\_the\_tiger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Raja_the_tiger)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2011, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-noticing-effects/52037/7 "2011-08-28T00:21:11Z")
> [@DotCom](#): > > Actually, for MX mixes, you should really test them out yourself before you research it. If you read up on other people’s experiences, it steers your brain into a certain direction misleading your brain into thinking thats how its supposed to work. Remember: MXs and putatives all work differently for everyone. That’s what I meant to say. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DotCom](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dotcom/32/2152_2.png) [@DotCom](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DotCom)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-noticing-effects/52037/8 "2011-08-28T00:29:27Z")
> [@Raja\_the\_tiger](#): > > That’s what I meant to say. 😉 Gotcha 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2011, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-noticing-effects/52037/9 "2011-08-28T00:35:59Z")
> [@DotCom](#): > > Actually, for MX mixes, you should really test them out yourself before you research it. If you read up on other people’s experiences, it steers your brain into a certain direction misleading your brain into thinking thats how its supposed to work. Remember: MXs and putatives all work differently for everyone. This! Also remember that Ammo is already a well balanced product with near-equal proportions of its component mones. Further moderating it withthe androstenols in IH and the unknown but very likely to be social MX423 is maybe softening it too much.