# Not Seeing Results, Help!?!?

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [June 20, 2009, 2:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-seeing-results-help/30028 "2009-06-20T14:59:31Z")\
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**Post date:** [June 21, 2009, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-seeing-results-help/30028/5 "2009-06-21T04:51:37Z")

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That is alot of androstenone though. Two shots of ammo & 1 shot of TUTH alone is 7.5mcg. If you are substituting IFM for more androstenone, then that may be the problem.

Using a putative like [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) might be a better substitute for IFM.

> [@What do you use in place of Female Magic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-do-you-use-in-place-of-female-magic/27888):
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> Female Magic is out what would you use if any?

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