# Not using pheros got better results.... **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 31, 2008, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779 "2008-01-31T13:24:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![kidzest](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kidzest/32/1613_2.png) [@kidzest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kidzest)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 1:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/1 "2008-01-31T13:24:11Z")
Heh guys..!, i need help and suggestion please. I recently received my togo IFM & IH2x. First time i sprayed 1x IH2x on back of neck, 1x IFM on my wrists wiping together and IS 3x on my neck & chest. Don’t notice anything unusual except one lady walking past me with a very sweet smile more like smiling to herself! Probably.., got a whiff of the pheros. What i don’t understand is, i got a fantastic result the next day, while not even using a drop of anything!(i plainly forgot..!!!) Is there anything wrong with me? Or is it my own pheros playing pranks..! I’m O+ blood group. Please enlighten me on what shuld i do…? Thks & rgds.😮 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 6:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/2 "2008-01-31T18:03:30Z")
The effects can linger for a while. Especially if you wear the same clothes or don’t wash them off. ---
**Author:** ![codemax](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/codemax/32/5173_2.png) [@codemax](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/codemax)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 6:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/3 "2008-01-31T18:29:47Z")
i use one spray of ammo before work every day. sometimes i forget, but still get the effects. it either stays on me longer than i think, or repeated use changes your own body chemistry semi-permanently. ---
**Author:** ![gitsmw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@gitsmw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gitsmw)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 6:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/4 "2008-01-31T18:37:54Z")
Women can like you without your [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) usage. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/5 "2008-01-31T18:43:33Z")
> [@gitsmw](#): > > Women can like you without your pheromone usage. Exactly. People will like you even without the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). All the pheromones do is give you and edge. They don’t really make you more likeable. However, with that edge I have found I can get more accomplished. It seems to increase the results of my efforts. My advice: keep on using them and keep on improving those social skills. You will hit a point of synergy where you will be very very good: at work, general social skills, romance with that lady, whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/6 "2008-01-31T19:11:31Z")
> [@gitsmw](#): > > Women can like you without your pheromone usage. They can remember too. What happens if you see a hot lady in a bikini, and then see her the next day in a modest dress? Did you forget she has a hot body? ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/7 "2008-01-31T19:13:47Z")
You can’t judge effects from one use only. Additionally, you wore multiple products on your first usage, before even knowing what effects each of the products will produce for you, or at what levels you can wear them. I’ll offer the same suggestion that I’m sure you’ve seen made repeatedly: Wear each of the products individually for several days, varying the number of sprays until you find your sweet spot and know what the effects of each of them are. ---
**Author:** ![gitsmw](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85e7bf/32.png) [@gitsmw](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/gitsmw)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/8 "2008-01-31T19:43:02Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > They can remember too. > > What happens if you see a hot lady in a bikini, and then see her the next day in a modest dress? Did you forget she has a hot body? False analogy. Physical appearance/proportions are not analagous to [artificial pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). So, what happens if you meet a normal chick wearing pheromones to give herself more sex appeal, and then see her the next day and she isn’t wearing any? “Oh, well, now she looks pretty average. Weird.” I’m not saying you shouldn’t wear pheromones or anything. I’m saying it’s very possible for women to be attracted to you without them. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 8:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/9 "2008-01-31T20:12:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Physical appearance/proportions are not analagous to artificial pheromones. So, what happens if you meet a normal chick wearing pheromones to give herself more sex appeal, and then see her the next day and she isn’t wearing any? “Oh, well, now she looks pretty average. Weird.” Pheromones dont make you pretty or Hot. If you find a girl unattractive to your tastes no pheromone in the world will change that. Mones can arouse,attract, enhance, ease, influence, uplift but some kind of attraction has to be present already. So when you wear pheromones around a certain person and they feel aroused and the next day you dont wear them. They will recall the arousal and associate it to you. Just because they dont feel aroused on that second meeting dosnt mean they will consider you suddenly undesirable. > [@](#): > > Please enlighten me on what shuld i do…? Thks & rgds.😮 You went for the phero baptism and sprayed them both on with no results. One product at a time, Start with one spray and work up. Try different application spots, We tell you this for a reason. You need to learn to use each product. I know the bottle says Instant but you still have to figure out how much and where your best diffusion spots are. Plus you need to wear them for at least a few days before you start to see really good results. I dont know why but alot of us have reported that. Keep in mind girls wont react like you see on the TAG commercials. Thats just hype. Do not wait till your pheromones work for you, learn to work your pheromones to your best advantage and you will see results. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![GoldenForest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@GoldenForest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GoldenForest)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 10:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/10 "2008-01-31T22:23:25Z")
You really also shouldn’t sit there, the phero is for ACTIVE use, you can wear all of the stuff you want to but if you just sit there and don’t speak they won’t help you at all save a small percentage of people that react rather strongly to the effects Pheromones are things that work during interactions between people, they rarely will start interactions off for you. They may cause more of the opposite gender to want to talk to you meaning they let IoI’s slip so you can catch on, but thats about it An I agree with the others too, you can get women to like you without phero’s, the phero’s just help you out a little to a lot depending on how they are used/combined and so on ---
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2008, 11:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/11 "2008-01-31T23:39:48Z")
> [@GoldenForest](#): > > Pheromones are things that work during interactions between people, they rarely will start interactions off for you. They may cause more of the opposite gender to want to talk to you meaning they let IoI’s slip so you can catch on, but thats about it Couldn’t agree more.But u know they are some really strange hits I got, (not many) when pheros made the opposite sex to initiate contact.As today.I was in the cafeteria I go often to drink my coffe and read the newspaper and putted on me my usual daily heay -none (don’t know how many mcg, maybe above 10 'cause it makes me nervous) and then this girl walk in.Well I know her since kids but we wasn’t friends or something.She moved to some other place and I haven’t seen her for some years.She is a 10 with blond hair, and asian like long little but blue eyes and thinks she’s special and everione has to respect her and bla-bla, too much of self esteem.So at firts I didn’t recognise her ( she changed alittle and as I said we weren’t close before) and stared at her trying to remember why this girl seems familiar.She did the same along with DIHL.And after we both remembered who the other was she walked to my table, handshaked with me and started conersation about how am I , usual bla-bla.And then she greetes some girls (friends of hers sitting on the next table) and asks is it possible to sit at my table.I said yes and then she asks if I want another coffe on her 'cause she has some occasion.I say that I want tee and she buys me one.Then she sits not only at my table (till then I was sitting alone drinking coffe and reading the newspaper) bit she moves my jacket from the chair right next to my chair and sits just some 20 centimeters away from me.We started talking about some generall stuff but obviously we both cannot concentrate on the talk and look at each other like… u know…a hell of IOI.Then one of her girlfriends from the next table says to her in loud voice “When u will come to our table and pay us some attantion too?”.It seemed wierd but the 10 explained me that she came to this cafeteria in her old neighbourhood as to meet this girl from the other table.Then she appologises that it will be rude if she doesn’t join the girl at the other table and asks if I am free to date her this or next week and what my phone number is 😮 .I gave it to her as well as taking hers.So even that time she stais more on my table till the girl from the other table calls her again.That time she apologises as like for commiting a crime and goes to the other table. U know guys, I was shocked.Yes I am no bad looking guy, I have some interresting personality too but never had such hits without pheros.And this is not the first time some girl I barely know dumps her company and joins me at my table.This time though I didn’t expect that princess high self esteem chick to do this but it was like hurricane.Came out or a sudden and did alot of action.Well in good direction though.Who knows this girl may be my new girlfriend and she is a ultimate 10 super hot babe. So my point with telling you this story witch happened today was that verry rarely pheromones work out without one doing anything.I was just sitting at the table reading my newspaper and only looked at her entering the cafeteria.No saying “Hi”, no any other IOI from my side.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![GoldenForest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@GoldenForest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GoldenForest)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/12 "2008-02-01T00:37:10Z")
Haha, nice! Like I said though, some people are dramatically effected by the pheromones. The girl probably saw you with all those attractive phero’s on and remembered who you were. It is much easier to approach an old acquaintance then a total stranger. People will pay more notice to you with the pheromones and usually be much nicer 🙂 Reminds me of this guys girlfriend, I was introduced to them by a mutual friend and the guy was most likely getting locked up for a duy or something of that nature for a few weeks, but his girlfriend is sitting there dead silent and she flat out cannot stop staring at me. I’m not talking about her holding eye contact with me or anything, this was a flat out stare, when I looked at her she would quickly look back and forth from looking straight down to looking at me over and over again. Eventually we locked eye contact and I can only describe the look she started to give me as practically begging me to just take her right there, I actually had to break eye contact cus it was making the other girls around me uncomfortable(and me a little bit too), her boyfriend was too completely submissive towards me too and wasn’t even trying to speak (A314 hehe) Kind of makes me wish I had at least gotten her number but it was getting so bad I felt bad for the bf, hahaha ---
**Author:** ![Casanova](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/casanova/32/621_2.png) [@Casanova](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Casanova)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/13 "2008-02-01T01:37:53Z")
Well I haven’t done it yet but I want to just take some girl from some scared guy and to take her somewhere to be more intimate…(yeah I know my mama always told me to be nice boy but with all this -none lately it’s hard to be one 😃 ) U say this hit u got was with A314 only and not -none involved?As for pheros making others to initiate conversation I got some hits with [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) Mix 2.Usually 3 sprays are enough for me to achieve good results.Spraying too much and I black out (usually at 9 sprays I start to be involved with my thoughts more than with what’s happenning around me).U can read about some of the hits I mention in my Come Talk To Me Mix 2 thread here. > [@Come talk to me 2 impressions](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/come-talk-to-me-2-impressions/8121): > > I’ve receaved my [Come Talk To Me](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/) Mix 2 before couple of days and have tryed it alittle. My first application was an intentional od about 8 sprays.Arms, back and front of neck and hair.The first thing I felt was some kind of dizzyness.Compared to androstenone witch usualy is like waterglass of coffe (makes me feel sober, nervous) alpha and beta androstenol have effect like drinking alcohol(dizzy, little bit tired).Strong self effects stayed for about 3-4 hours. Puted all thiese sprays and some … Be carefull 'cause using this product may result in people constantly asking you for some directions about shops, pubs, streets ext. and on contrary if u ask some one for directions he/she to explainn you the same stuff over and over again just to keep the conversation going.😮 ---
**Author:** ![Eldros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/eldros/32/279_2.png) [@Eldros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Eldros)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/14 "2008-02-01T01:48:12Z")
There’s also the fact that you are never pheromone-less; they come naturally too 😃. ---
**Author:** ![GoldenForest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@GoldenForest](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/GoldenForest)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2008, 5:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/not-using-pheros-got-better-results/8779/15 "2008-02-01T05:33:01Z")
> [@Casanova](#): > > Well I haven’t done it yet but I want to just take some girl from some scared guy and to take her somewhere to be more intimate…(yeah I know my mama always told me to be nice boy but with all this -none lately it’s hard to be one 😃 ) > > U say this hit u got was with A314 only and not -none involved?As for pheros making others to initiate conversation I got some hits with Come Talk To Me Mix 2.Usually 3 sprays are enough for me to achieve good results.Spraying too much and I black out (usually at 9 sprays I start to be involved with my thoughts more than with what’s happenning around me).U can read about some of the hits I mention in my Come Talk To Me Mix 2 thread here. > [Come talk to me 2 impressions](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/come-talk-to-me-2-impressions/8121) > > Be carefull 'cause using this product may result in people constantly asking you for some directions about shops, pubs, streets ext. and on contrary if u ask some one for directions he/she to explainn you the same stuff over and over again just to keep the conversation going.😮 haha, yea, I get an increase in hits from A314, you shouldn’t underestimate the power of high value, its like a celebrity status, gives you an aura of mystery. From my experience, it is intimidating to many women so they don’t approach but its shockingly easy to initiate conversations with them, and the highly confident and usually highly attractive girls do in fact gravitate towards you and attempt to at least display an IoI or two in hopes you’ll talk to them I did, however get much better results with IFMM in the mix, it makes you far more approachable and seems to work nice with the value factor, I got much more kino from the ladies with it, but I’m curious to see what TUTH will do with it