# Nothing can be perfect **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 5, 2010, 9:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406 "2010-09-05T09:25:30Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 9:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406/1 "2010-09-05T09:25:30Z")
The last time I had three drops of A314 and two shots of ammo, everything was just dandy. That was, however, in a crowd where I had exactly one friend. Yesterday I narrowed it down to two drops of A314 but still used two shots of ammo when I went to a place where I knew just about everybody. I didn’t make any new enemies, but it was hard to keep a conversation going with some of the guys I know damn well. A couple of them avoided me and I mean dodged me as if I was a god damn bullet, pretty much criss crossing through the room like I couldn’t get to them them as they did. Add to that a whole bunch of unwanted attention from chicks you just don’t want (good friends ex’s, good friends new girlfriends etc.) and I felt like I had to go home. I solved it like I always have done since beginning of time - I got really, really shit faced and that brought everything back to almost normal. Still people didn’t fuck with me, but no one seemed to like the thought of me waking up in their home the next morning neither. My friends got talkative, but for one guy who lives in another town, he’s an extreme alpha male and I’ve always gotten along just fine with him. This time I would’ve had to strap the man to a chair to speak with him for more than the few minutes that I did. He vanished like a god damn ninja and we had absolutely no kind of argument before he did. Immediately I knew it was because of the mones and that was the beginning of the end. Had I been a preacher I would’ve collected the souls of every living thing in that place last night, I can tell you that. They would’ve followed me to hell and a few would’ve followed me back if I’d just re-applied along the way. In a crowd where I know most people, I think I’m gonna cut down on this stuff in the future. I like my friends and I like talking to them. Still it was an OK night out in my books. 🙂 It sure was interesting, educating and fun. EDIT: Took out the most blatant typos. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 11:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406/2 "2010-09-05T11:01:24Z")
One strange incident happened. This was a party arranged by a tire dealer where I usually buy all my tires. There were some car dealers present, one of whom I’ve bought a brand new van from many years ago. I see him a couple of times a year and consider him a friend but last night he was as if I were his dead son risen from the grave. Too bad he retired and sold his business a couple of years ago. Most likely could’ve made a great deal on a car otherwise. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![andy8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@andy8](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andy8)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406/3 "2010-09-05T19:34:04Z")
You should think of using IS to turn your domineering vibe into charismatic one or IH to add a touch of Beta to your A314. You didn’t mention your and the crowds average age btw? ---
**Author:** ![nd123](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@nd123](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nd123)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406/4 "2010-09-05T20:04:43Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > The last time I had three drops of A314 and two shots of ammo, everything was just dandy. > That was, however, in a crowd where I had exactly one friend. > > Yesterday I narrowed it down to two drops of A314 but still used two shots of ammo when I went to a place where I knew just about everybody. I didn’t make any new enemies, but it was hard to keep a conversation going with some of the guys I know damn well. A couple of them avoided me and I mean dodged me as if I was a god damn bullet, pretty much criss crossing through the room like I couldn’t get to them them as they did. I find using IO with an [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)/A314 combo really helps buffer the “too much respect” factor all of the rone is most likely putting off. Try cutting down the A314 down to one drop too for more social situations. Sounds like you’re close to a good mix so don’t give up! ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2010, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406/5 "2010-09-05T20:05:13Z")
> [@andy8](#): > > You should think of using IS to turn your domineering vibe into charismatic one or IH to add a touch of Beta to your A314. > > You didn’t mention your and the crowds average age btw? I’m 38 and it was a very mixed crowd, probably ranging from 18 to 65 or something like that. Average age about 25 to 30. Not many really young kids present nor many over 50. There were some 450-500 people altogether. I went to an event tonight and used only one drop of A314 and one shot of ammo. Not quite comparable to last night as no alcohol was served here, it wasn’t a party but this mix seemed to be better. I’ll try going with that for a while. ---
**Author:** ![andy8](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@andy8](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andy8)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 8:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406/6 "2010-09-07T08:39:31Z")
Judging by your age, 1 drop of each might actually have very little effect, but everybody is different. Based on other people in their 30’s from around here, i’d still say test out 2 shots of each but add the socials with at least as many sprays if not more. ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 11:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406/7 "2010-09-07T11:57:58Z")
Curious… Did anything change with you between the night out with just one friend and the night out with everyone knowing you? Did you start taking any supplements, start working out? Did you already have on mones from earlier in the day? ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406/8 "2010-09-07T13:46:05Z")
> [@JosieWilder](#): > > Curious… Did anything change with you between the night out with just one friend and the night out with everyone knowing you? Did you start taking any supplements, start working out? Did you already have on mones from earlier in the day? I knew quite a few people at the event on the second night too. The only major difference was that no one was drunk. Two, even three drops of A314 works very well sometimes, other times it seems to be too much. Still haven’t had any disastrous nights with any of the mixes, nothing has gone terribly wrong by any means. Just that a friend or two try to avoid me (and one became a little agressive once) and some women acting inappropriately. I’m not trying to imply that they throw their clothes off or try to rip mine off for that matter, but even more subtle moves are awkward when you know their boyfriend. That could be the ammo more than A314, I guess. I don’t know. At least with the A314 I’ll try just one drop but maybe the ammo could get two shots and I’ll just avoid my friends’ girlfriends. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 2:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406/9 "2010-09-07T14:02:50Z")
I’m not very happy about the thought of adding more products, cause I seem to be a bit sensitive to the scents myself. I like the scent of A314, I think it smells really good and it’s used in drops so it doesn’t spread wide like a spray. Everything else I’ve tried I’ve immediately gotten a feeling of “too much” as soon as I’ve applied just one dose. And the smell stays so strong for the next hour or so that I don’t feel too good. The one or two sprays of ammo (one to the chest, sometimes another to the neck) still feel pretty OK when I put a shirt on afterwards but the socials I have, IO and IH seem to smell stronger and less pleasant. I’ve never had any allergic reactions to anything. Well, hay but I doubt that’s included in any of these bottles. EDIT. Lactose too, but still unlikely to be found here. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406/10 "2010-09-07T14:10:22Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > The last time I had three drops of A314 and two shots of ammo, everything was just dandy. > That was, however, in a crowd where I had exactly one friend. > > Yesterday I narrowed it down to two drops of A314 but still used two shots of ammo when I went to a place where I knew just about everybody. I didn’t make any new enemies, but it was hard to keep a conversation going with some of the guys I know damn well. A couple of them avoided me and I mean dodged me as if I was a god damn bullet, pretty much criss crossing through the room like I couldn’t get to them them as they did. > > Add to that a whole bunch of unwanted attention from chicks you just don’t want (good friends ex’s, good friends new girlfriends etc.) and I felt like I had to go home. > > I solved it like I always have done since beginning of time - I got really, really shit faced and that brought everything back to almost normal. Still people didn’t fuck with me, but no one seemed to like the thought of me waking up in their home the next morning neither. My friends got talkative, but for one guy who lives in another town, he’s an extreme alpha male and I’ve always gotten along just fine with him. > > This time I would’ve had to strap the man to a chair to speak with him for more than the few minutes that I did. He vanished like a god damn ninja and we had absolutely no kind of argument before he did. > > Immediately I knew it was because of the mones and that was the beginning of the end. > > Had I been a preacher I would’ve collected the souls of every living thing in that place last night, I can tell you that. They would’ve followed me to hell and a few would’ve followed me back if I’d just re-applied along the way. > > In a crowd where I know most people, I think I’m gonna cut down on this stuff in the future. I like my friends and I like talking to them. > > Still it was an OK night out in my books. 🙂 It sure was interesting, educating and fun. > > EDIT: Took out the most blatant typos. Curious. Where did you apply the A314 and Ammo. Did you layer the Ammo on top of the A314 or did just apply completely apart? ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406/11 "2010-09-07T14:35:00Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > Curious. Where did you apply the A314 and Ammo. Did you layer the Ammo on top of the A314 or did just apply completely apart? First night: A314, one drop behind each ear and down the front of the neck. Ammo, one shot to the chest and one to the back of the neck. Second night: A314, one drop split between the pulse points on the front of the neck. Ammo: one spray to the chest. So no layering. I used a little after shave the first night. In the natural place, after I shaved. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2010, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nothing-can-be-perfect/41406/12 "2010-09-07T15:13:23Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > Curious. Where did you apply the A314 and Ammo. Did you layer the Ammo on top of the A314 or did just apply completely apart? Hey do you layer or seperate? Are there any differences? Sometimes ill layer (more complex mixes) sometimes I won’t, for my simple mixes. I’m curious if that makes any difference