# NPA Cover Scent Question **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 8, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535 "2012-05-08T13:57:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sheenis-envy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@sheenis-envy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheenis-envy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/1 "2012-05-08T13:57:01Z")
I bit the bullet and ordered some NPA from LS due to reading through past threads and hearing such wonderful things about it. Anyone know if Cool Water would be strong enough to cover the scent of NPA? And also, what kind of ratios should I try mixing it up? I was thinking 4:1 Cologne:NPA…any input is greatly appreciated, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 3:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/2 "2012-05-08T15:13:13Z")
It is - I have used it myself. 4:1 is a strong but good ratio to start with. 4.2/0.8 in a togo would be the recommended strength but I have used up to 1.25 with good results. 1.5 made me very popular with the old dears - I soon diluted it down! 😮😮😃 ---
**Author:** ![sheenis-envy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@sheenis-envy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheenis-envy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 6:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/3 "2012-05-08T18:12:04Z")
You’re the best mobo, thanks as always…How many sprays to you generally wear, and do you wear anything else with it? ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 6:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/4 "2012-05-08T18:40:35Z")
> [@sheenis-envy](#): > > I bit the bullet and ordered some NPA from LS due to reading through past threads and hearing such wonderful things about it. Anyone know if Cool Water would be strong enough to cover the scent of NPA? And also, what kind of ratios should I try mixing it up? I was thinking 4:1 Cologne:NPA…any input is greatly appreciated, thanks. CoolWater:NPA 4:1 is just fine. One of my favorite-mixes is to mix 0.6ml NPA, 0.4ml A1 and 2.5ml CoolWater in a togo-spray-bottle. This mix is nearly an 4:1-ratio and provides about 5.15mcg androstenone, 14.15mcg A1 and 5.15mcg of the secreat ingredient of the NPA. I have got very good results when spraying 2 times of my t-shirt (=10.3mcg None + 28.3mcg A1). Great hits especially from younger girls about 20-25. Curiously, when mixing CoolWater and chemset-androstenone from LS 20:1, people avoid me like a stink bomb ☹ I guess the chemset-None is much more stinking than the NPA and need a stronger cover (for example Kouros). Shit that I can not smell androstenone 😠 That would make the things much easily to handle… ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/5 "2012-05-08T18:48:57Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > It is - I have used it myself. > > 4:1 is a strong but good ratio to start with. 4.2/0.8 in a togo would be the recommended strength but I have used up to 1.25 with good results. > > 1.5 made me very popular with the old dears - I soon diluted it down! 😮 😮 😃 mobocaster, what do you mean with 1.25? 😕 1:25? or 1.25:1 –\> 5:4? ---
**Author:** ![sheenis-envy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@sheenis-envy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheenis-envy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 7:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/6 "2012-05-08T19:19:46Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > CoolWater:NPA 4:1 is just fine. One of my favorite-mixes is to mix 0.6ml NPA, 0.4ml A1 and 2.5ml CoolWater in a togo-spray-bottle. This mix is nearly an 4:1-ratio and provides about 5.15mcg androstenone, 14.15mcg A1 and 5.15mcg of the secreat ingredient of the NPA. > > I have got very good results when spraying 2 times of my t-shirt (=10.3mcg None + 28.3mcg A1). Great hits especially from younger girls about 20-25. > > Curiously, when mixing CoolWater and chemset-androstenone from LS 20:1, people avoid me like a stink bomb ☹ > I guess the chemset-None is much more stinking than the NPA and need a stronger cover (for example Kouros). Shit that I can not smell androstenone 😠 That would make the things much easily to handle… Thanks for this advice Stuttgart…I have some A1 as well so maybe I will try that mix out. Isn’t there A1 in NPA though? ---
**Author:** ![sheenis-envy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@sheenis-envy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheenis-envy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 7:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/7 "2012-05-08T19:23:23Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > mobocaster, what do you mean with 1.25? 😕 1:25? or 1.25:1 –\> 5:4? I’m thinking he meant 1.25ml of NPA and 3.75ml of Cool Water… ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/8 "2012-05-08T19:25:54Z")
> [@sheenis-envy](#): > > Thanks for this advice Stuttgart…I have some A1 as well so maybe I will try that mix out. Isn’t there A1 in NPA though? Yes, NPA includes A1, but just a little bit. NPA presumable contains 50% androstEnone, the rest 50% are androstAnone, androstadienone (A1) and copuline. ---
**Author:** ![sheenis-envy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@sheenis-envy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheenis-envy)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2012, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/9 "2012-05-08T19:32:09Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > Yes, NPA includes A1, but just a little bit. > > NPA presumable contains 50% androstEnone, the rest 50% are androstAnone, androstadienone (A1) and copuline. Great, thanks again…I’m really looking forward to trying this stuff out. Good to know it goes well with Cool Water… ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/10 "2012-05-09T01:44:31Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > mobocaster, what do you mean with 1.25? 😕 1:25? or 1.25:1 –\> 5:4? mls of NPA diluted with cologne to make 5ml in a togo. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 1:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/11 "2012-05-09T01:52:37Z")
> [@sheenis-envy](#): > > You’re the best mobo, thanks as always…How many sprays to you generally wear, and do you wear anything else with it? Generally 1-4 sprays depending on situation/dilution. I’ve worn a great deal of other things alongside NPA. All the old favourites from here will work. A314, A314/IH and A314/IH/P74 all go brilliantly, along with TAC, IS, [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) etc. I agree that although NPA has some A1, it often benefits from a bit more - 1-3 sprays 12.5mcg depending on dose or I will mix 0.5 or 0.75ml (for higher dose mixes) A1 into my NPA/cologne mix for convenience. My favourite cologne for mixing is Azzaro Chrome but I do need something stronger like Chanel Antaeus for the 1.25/A1 but I can get away with a lighter scent like Eternity for the lower dose mixes (0.75/0.8). Cool Water should easily manage up to 1.25ml though. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/12 "2012-05-09T02:19:54Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > Yes, NPA includes A1, but just a little bit. > > NPA presumable contains 50% androstEnone, the rest 50% are androstAnone, androstadienone (A1) and copuline. Has that mix been confirmed anywhere reliable? So far, the only NPA components that I’ve been able to attribute to reliable sources (Bruce at LS) are none and A1. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/13 "2012-05-09T16:09:57Z")
Just use edge today affter several days of nol use.. Wow it really makes a punch like its bigger brother npa. I use PLAY cologne. ---
**Author:** ![sheenis-envy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@sheenis-envy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheenis-envy)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/14 "2012-05-09T16:20:06Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Just use edge today affter several days of nol use.. Wow it really makes a punch like its bigger brother npa. I use PLAY cologne. I notice there a quite a few different products named Edge on LS, which one are you referring to? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/15 "2012-05-09T16:31:49Z")
All of them. The basic formula for Edge and NPA (at 1/5 dilution) is the same across the entire range with only differences in carrier/delivery and scent, apart from Edge Trust, which adds some Oxytocin to the mix. I don’t include the gel packs because like SOE gels, they may not be an official product and appear to have a lower concentration. ---
**Author:** ![sheenis-envy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c57346/32.png) [@sheenis-envy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheenis-envy)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 6:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/16 "2012-05-11T06:19:11Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > All of them. > > The basic formula for Edge and NPA (at 1/5 dilution) is the same across the entire range with only differences in carrier/delivery and scent, apart from Edge Trust, which adds some Oxytocin to the mix. > > I don’t include the gel packs because like SOE gels, they may not be an official product and appear to have a lower concentration. That Edge Trust sounds interesting, any experience with it or heard any reviews? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2012, 6:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/17 "2012-05-11T06:41:23Z")
I’ve not used Edge Trust but there are others here who have and posted some positive reports. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2012, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-cover-scent-question/55535/18 "2012-05-12T07:23:26Z")
I use L’aux D’issey to cover npa… I also use PLAY cologne. I have several sephora atomizers mixed up with different scents so I and women don’t get bored of them. Mix 5:1 cologne to npa drops. Be careful with npa.. As much as this juice works it also backfires. Use it in clubs, dates etc, but only after you’ve built a connection with a woman with softer mones first so they feel they are not just turned on but ready for intimacy. Also I’ve always wondered about going from a softer nol signature to a sudden horndog signature on the same date.. It may be too much, like too extreme. I would dose gradually. I use nols to soften up and build a connection, and only later, after some bond is made and I’m in a position to kiss a woman or get her hot an bothered will I try a single spray or two from a sephora atomizer of npa. The younger the woman the less npa you need. There are some people who claim you can just go to a club wear a ton of npa and get a ONS. But I think unless you are built like a stripper yourself you may have a hard time. This approach is not for me. Just some tips on how to use npa. Some people here use SOE to soften up and build friendships and connections.. I prefer heavier alpha adrostenol since it makes me talk more and I’m naturally more shy until i get to know someone better. Hope this dosing and usage tips help you out…