# NPA – Loaded Grenade !!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 20, 2011, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824 "2011-06-20T04:39:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![lostguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a4c791/32.png) [@lostguy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lostguy)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2012, 9:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/41 "2012-05-23T21:18:13Z")
> [@Pagodeiro](#): > > I get better effects when i dab that stuff … > > or use straight drops .. > > dillutions did never work the same like NPA used directly !! > > try it and you’ll see ! > > **Pago** I used to Dab.. but have to be careful.. its just not really proper dosage is it?.. (i ordered there the edge starter pack) which came with a white bottle of frag oil which had a dropper.. so i Used that for NPA.. but liek i said.. I always OD on all the mones… now a bit serious… True pheros, are legit i ordered a few from them before they do have a 100% coups.. lol for 25 or if you order something else u can add coups for only 4$ (which comes separate (25$ for 3ml or order something else and add 3ml of coups for 4$).. good deal (no im not advertising them .. lol so dont take me wrong… they have true love.. (the spray apparently requires 6 sprays.. so you have to restock.. quickly ---
**Author:** ![arif8020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@arif8020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/arif8020)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/42 "2013-05-20T03:05:16Z")
> [@Rangel52](#): > > Party/club > > - (3) NPA + (4) IS X2 = laid > or (3) NPA + (4) IG = laid > or (3) NPA + (4) TAC = laid > > I bought my first bottle 4 weeks ago and so far found these mixes excellent milf (30-40) magnets. The amazing thing about NPA is you don’t have to find the women it attracts, they find you. If you are dressed and groomed half way decent and can talk, your are going to get laid. > > I apply (3) drops of NPA straight from the bottle; one on the neck behind each ear and one on the chest. As you can see from my mixes, I also use a social with it, but I don’t spray over the NPA. Have you tried NPA with just IS, [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) or P79? Well here is my point, I plan to buy NPA soon. Other than AMMO and TUTH, what I have in my arsenal is [P75@2.5mcg](mailto:P75@2.5mcg) and a bottle mixed with 25ml IS@regular strength with 5ml [P79@12.5mcg](mailto:P79@12.5mcg). I had mixed IS and P79 in that amount as I wanted to balance out the effects of P79 as standalone. Now my question is, Should I try 2 sprays NPA (5:1) with 2 sprays P75? Also, would you think it would be a safe bet to use 2 sprays NPA 5:1 with the mix of P79/IS that I have, as P79 seems to work as an enhancer of emotions in the target. Just a head off, I plan to use Blue Sugar with NPA as it seems to have better sillage and also, from personal experience, women do tend to like this EDT. Or should I just apply NPA the way you do instead of mixing it with any EDT? Your advice would be greatly appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/43 "2013-05-20T03:28:40Z")
IS is fine to use with NPA - However it won’t provide much by way of moderation but will bring the feelgood factor to help its impact. [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) - Is usable but what dose are you thinking-on? Personally I can use around 5-7.5mcg (mostly 5) before it starts getting too edgy/uncomfortable but age may be a factor here. Or get some other social moderator in there. 1:5 is a good starting point for NPA but depending on age, situation and other components, you may be able to go higher or lower. Blue Sugar is a superb cover/dilutent and you will be able mix a good range of doses with it. As for dabs vs mixing, that’s entirely up to you. Personally, I find mixing much more managable, reliable and longest lasting in the widest range of conditions. Moreso than dabbing, which can work brilliantly when the conditions (temp, humidity, raunchiness etc - clubs are NPA’s natural envoronment! 😉 ) are spot-on but can fail totally if things change just a little bit - leading to a massive fall-off in diffusion and effectiveness if it gets a little cooler or more humid or it can go the other way, diffusing so well you OD or discover NPA’s peculilar property of degrading to a god-awful stink at the drop of a hat - this in particular is tamed significantly by mixing. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![arif8020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@arif8020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/arif8020)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/44 "2013-05-20T03:36:55Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > IS is fine to use with NPA - However it won’t provide much by way of moderation but will bring the feelgood factor to help its impact. > > P75 - Is usable but what dose are you thinking-on? Personally I can use around 5-7.5mcg (mostly 5) before it starts getting too edgy/uncomfortable but age may be a factor here. Or get some other social moderator in there. > > 1:5 is a good starting point for NPA but depending on age, situation and other components, you may be able to go higher or lower. Blue Sugar is a superb cover/dilutent and you will be able mix a good range of doses with it. > > As for dabs vs mixing, that’s entirely up to you. Personally, I find mixing much more managable, reliable and longest lasting in the widest range of conditions. Moreso than dabbing, which can work brilliantly when the conditions (temp. humidity, raunchiness etc) are spot-on but can fail totally if things change just a little bit - leading to a massive fall-off in diffusion and effectiveness if it gets a little cooler or more humid or it can go the other way, diffusing so well you OD or discover NPA’s peculilar property of degrading to a god-awful stink at the drop of a hat - this in particular is tamed significantly by mixing. 🙂 Thanks for getting back so quickly mobo, as always to the rescue. I’ll take your advice and mix Blue Sugar and NPA at 5:1 and start with just 2 sprays. Well I have a bottle of [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/)@2.5mcg so I plan to go with 2 sprays at first. I believe that would make it 5mcg in total? At this moment I wish to try NPA with what I have in my arsenal so for the time, I would stick to P75 and the mix I have mentioned of IS/P79. You have mentioned about mixing NPA with IS, but I also want to know how is it gonna work with the IS/P79 mix that I have (don’t have IS and P79 seperately now). Is that going to be too risky? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/45 "2013-05-20T03:46:00Z")
Yup - 2,5mcg - that will let you build-up your dose nicely. 🙂 Adding P79 - the only way is to try it and see. IME P79 can be very hit or miss with overt none. It can indeed amply all the good things very well but it can also do the same for the bad - Similarly, it could make the edgy/uncomfortable vibe of [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) much worse, or it could help its masculine presence no-end. FWIW, my most positive results with both P75 and P79 have been with well balanced or social-heavy mixes, which insulate the potential negatives no-end. So if you can get a social moderator in there it would help steer the mix nicely. NPA/IH/IS has done very well for me with both P75 and P79 but I’ve not tried them together. The IH/IS provides a nice and deeply engaging social moderator to the NPA - Which gets the talk turning to appropriate filth very nicely! 😉 ---
**Author:** ![arif8020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/13edae/32.png) [@arif8020](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/arif8020)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 3:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/46 "2013-05-20T03:51:03Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Yup - 2,5mcg - that will let you build-up your dose nicely. 🙂 > > Adding P79 - the only way is to try it and see. IME P79 can be very hit or miss with overt none. It can indeed amply all the good things very well but it can also do the same for the bad - Similarly, it could make the edgy/uncomfortable vibe of P75 much worse, or it could help its masculine presence no-end. FWIW, my most positive results with both P75 and P79 have been with well balanced or social-heavy mixes, which insulate the potential negatives no-end. So if you can get a social moderator in there it would help steer the mix nicely. > > NPA/IH/IS has done very well for me with both P75 and P79 but I’ve not used them together. The IH/IS provides a nice and deeply engaging social moderator to the NPA - Which gets the talk turning to appropriate filth very nicely! 😉 Thanks mobo, greatly appreciated. Now this is how I am gonna test the: First Test:- 5:1 NPA x 2 sprays + 2 sprays [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/)@2.5mcg Second Test:- 5:1 NPA x 2 sprays + 2 sprays of P79/IS mix I have mentioned above Third test: - 5:1 NPA x 2 sprays + 2 sprays [P75@2.5mcg](mailto:P75@2.5mcg) + 2 sprays of P79/IS mix I have mentioned above Will start a thread hopefully to report the results. This will ofcourse be after I get the NPA. Thanks Mobo ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 9:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/47 "2013-05-20T09:50:18Z")
They have updated the Formula of NPA … what version you guys are talking about here ? you can see the difference if your bottle is frosted or not frosted ! **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 11:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/48 "2013-05-20T11:55:53Z")
Have they? The bottle, graphics and dropper (which was changed some time ago) yes, along with a revamp of their website/product image and a proper webshop but Lacroy have clearly confirmed that there is no change whatsoever to the phero formula and I’ve found no difference between any of the updated versions I’ve used. ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2013, 6:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/49 "2013-05-20T18:57:25Z")
If I can add my 2 cents - I feel NPA + A1 is a solid hitter. I love this simple combo I always get hits. ---
**Author:** ![Jojje](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b19c9b/32.png) [@Jojje](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jojje)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 4:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/50 "2013-05-21T04:41:21Z")
any combos from phero that kicks the same way? Then I want to try it 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 4:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/51 "2013-05-21T04:50:35Z")
There are a good number of NPA combo threads already. It combines well with a great many social/status/secondary product sold here. ---
**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/52 "2013-05-21T19:13:17Z")
this juice make female touchy touchy.i had a girl use her nails and scratch my arm hard 😮plus she couldn’t control her horniness.combine this with A314 and you’re going to intimidate the crap out of your friends.i call this the TERMINATOR combo.you get this extremely confident feeling,on top of the world and untouchable.everyone get out of the way when they’re in the presence of the terminator ---
**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2013, 9:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824/53 "2013-05-21T21:07:55Z")
this juice make female touchy touchy.i had a girl use her nails and scratch my arm hard 😮plus she couldn’t control her horniness.combine this with A314 and you’re going to intimidate the crap out of your friends.i call this the TERMINATOR combo.you get this extremely confident feeling,on top of the world and untouchable.everyone get out of the way when they’re in the presence of the terminator [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-loaded-grenade/50824.md?page=2)