# Npa- question **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 6, 2013, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442 "2013-11-06T11:33:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sharon777sy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@sharon777sy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharon777sy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 11:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/1 "2013-11-06T11:33:52Z")
Hello guys! You have a great forum! I just got my bottle on Npa and I have a rookie question… Can I mix the Npa +cologne and put the mixture in an empty spray bottle for sevrel weeks using it any time I want? or should I mix the Npa +cologne every time I want to use it. THANK YOU!! : )) ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 11:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/2 "2013-11-06T11:58:29Z")
Mix and use as needed - NPA will keep for ages when mixed. Personally I tend to mix 5ml at a time - approx 40 sprays, so I can adjust dosing to other pheros I’m using at the same time but its up to you. As this is your first post, you should start your own thread in the intro forum with some more info about yourself, your situation, how you want to use pheros and your opportunities to use them. That way you get better advice and the GC to help try AD products. ---
**Author:** ![sharon777sy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@sharon777sy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharon777sy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/3 "2013-11-06T12:04:46Z")
Thank you mobocaster! 1.What ratio are you using colonge:Npa? 2.how many sprays are you using in a time? and on what parts of the body? 🙂) ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 12:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/4 "2013-11-06T12:10:34Z")
I use various proportions depending, standard 1:5 is the most common but I’ll go up or down depending on the cologne/situation/dose. Several detailed threads here on mixing/dosing/combining with NPA already that are worth a look. The application points sticky here has lots of ideas but so long as it has good circulation and is open to diffuse, its viable. ---
**Author:** ![sharon777sy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@sharon777sy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharon777sy)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 12:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/5 "2013-11-06T12:19:20Z")
Great I’ll look for the threads.. Thanks again! really curious fotr the outcome… ---
**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 12:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/6 "2013-11-06T12:54:14Z")
just diluted my NPA using 1:5 ratio.i transferred 15ml NPA into a 100ml perfume atomiser and added 75ml cologne.so how many mcg enone per spray and how many sprays should i apply? I want an approachable sexual vibe,not overbearing. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/7 "2013-11-06T14:14:18Z")
> [@leon333](#): > > I want an approachable sexual vibe,not overbearing. 😮😃😛 NPA is not exactly known for its subtlety or gentleness - I’d place it somewhere between TUTH and IJ in the phero blunt instrument stakes. However, if you have some IO, IH and ideally [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), you can make it less raw, IH/P74 is a favourite moderator for me. As for dose, we can’t be that certain because the only reasonably reliable info out there for NPA is for the very oldest formula that was superceded at least 5/6 years ago - That worked out around 6.5mcg eNone/A1 per spray at 1:5 dilution. Start with one spray and take it from there. ---
**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/8 "2013-11-06T15:08:50Z")
yup NPA is raw and horny as hell!!!😮that’s why I diluted the bastard.it’s so concentrated girls with sensitive nose will pick up that nasty piss,BO and ass smell.imagine you’re trying to hit on a girl and she think that you smell like ass and you just piss your pants.not very attractive.diluted NPA is the way to go people,and yes! 74 my fav putative,since you mentioned I gotta grab myself another bottle ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2013, 1:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/9 "2013-11-07T13:38:06Z")
My two favourite NPA-mixes are: Mix 1: 0.6 ml NPA 0.4 ml A1 2.5 ml Cool Water mixed in a to-go-bottle. One spray (0.125ml) provides 0.0214ml NPA (=5.14ml androstenone and 5.14ml secret ingredient) and 14.29 mcg A1. One spray on skin (neck) or two sprays on clothes (near neck). Mix 2: 1 part of NPA and 2 parts of Kouros. dabbed (=0.022ml / dab) out of a phiola. One dab provides 0.0073ml NPA (=1.76 mcg androstenone and 1.76 mcg secret) use three to five dabs on neck / ears. ---
**Author:** ![hankypanky2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hankypanky2/32/597_2.png) [@hankypanky2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hankypanky2)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 6:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/10 "2013-11-08T06:23:59Z")
NPA contains meo-est which causes cancerous skin cells. Again do your own research. ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 8:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/11 "2013-11-10T08:05:49Z")
> [@hankypanky2](#): > > NPA contains meo-est which causes cancerous skin cells. Again do your own research. Meo-est is found on cancer tissue, but this is no evidence that it causes cancer! ---
**Author:** ![hankypanky2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hankypanky2/32/597_2.png) [@hankypanky2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hankypanky2)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 8:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/12 "2013-11-10T08:16:30Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > Meo-est is found on cancer tissue, but this is no evidence that it causes cancer! > [@](#): > > METHOXYESTRATETRAENONE aka MEO-EST ~ Meo-Est is an equine (horse) hormone excreted in the urine of pregnant mares and only produced in humans in cancerous cell tissue. It is sold by some companies as a less expensive alternative to authentic EST (aka Estratetraenol), because authentic EST is the most expensive molecule on the market. There have been studies showing that Meo-Est is such a strong carcinogen, that anywhere it touched human skin they could see cellular abnormality…cancerous skin cells. Now, it was not reported the strength that was used for that testing, it might have been astronomically high - way higher than the concentration used in any commercial phero product. To put it in perspective - for example, the FDA has removed saccharine from its list of cancer-causing items because the sheer volume that was used in the rodent testing was so unreasonably huge, that no human would ever ingest that much. This MIGHT be the case with the Meo-Est testing as well, but to be on the safe side, LPMP chooses not to include this molecule in any or our products. Another well-known pheromone manufacturer acknowledges the potential risk of using Meo-Est directly on the skin, but still offers it, suggesting that it only be sprayed on clothing, because in their opinion, it still has pheromonal benefits. A third manufacturer offers it without any health warning at all. It is our opinion that this molecule be avoided. Using genuine EST may be more expensive, but it comes without the potential risks. Love Potion Magickal Perfumerie ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2013, 10:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/13 "2013-11-10T10:12:37Z")
ok, you seems to be right, but are you sure that NPA contains Meo-est? LaCroy states that NPA contains None + three secret ingredients. If Bruce from LS is correct, one of the secrets is A1. the rest is speculation. some people have assumed that the two secrets are androstAnone and copuline. Where do you have the information that NPA contains meo-est? ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/14 "2013-11-11T00:14:02Z")
> [@hankypanky2](#): > > NPA contains meo-est which causes cancerous skin cells. Again do your own research. Guys - stop replying to this dickhead hankypanky2, he’s a toilet. All he does is spam the board and blasts mones, just read his sig. In another post he said mones gave him a “virus”…seriously!!! Just flush his ass already and move on to more serious shit. ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/15 "2013-11-11T00:18:19Z")
> [@sharon777sy](#): > > Hello guys! > You have a great forum! > > I just got my bottle on Npa and I have a rookie question… > > Can I mix the Npa +cologne > and put the mixture in an empty spray bottle for sevrel weeks using it any time I want? > > or should I mix the Npa +cologne every time I want to use it. > THANK YOU!! : )) Sup dude - I would follow [mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster) rule of 5:1 ratio. I use a pipette to extract 1ml of NPA and squirt that into an atomizer and then use my fav cologne. That’s it, 1 - 2 - 3 easy peasy. ---
**Author:** ![sharon777sy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8baadc/32.png) [@sharon777sy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharon777sy)\ **Post date:** [November 11, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/16 "2013-11-11T15:27:53Z")
HI andromun, Thanks for the advice 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![hankypanky2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hankypanky2/32/597_2.png) [@hankypanky2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hankypanky2)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 7:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-question/60442/17 "2013-11-12T07:24:45Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > ok, you seems to be right, but are you sure that NPA contains Meo-est? > > LaCroy states that NPA contains None + three secret ingredients. If Bruce from LS is correct, one of the secrets is A1. the rest is speculation. some people have assumed that the two secrets are androstAnone and copuline. > > Where do you have the information that NPA contains meo-est? 1. does new [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) additive contain est ?? I cant find ingredients on site. 2. can you please indicate what you mean with est ? barry 3. Hello est = Estratetraenol 4. Not in the for MEN formulation messaged them again about meo est, no reply. Go figure…