# NPA/TE: Do the secret ingredients soften the androstenone? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 1, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-te-do-the-secret-ingredients-soften-the-androstenone/42237 "2010-10-01T18:59:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 6:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-te-do-the-secret-ingredients-soften-the-androstenone/42237/1 "2010-10-01T18:59:34Z")
Usually I am very easily going to OD when I use a androstenone-product (which contains None only). The perfect amount is about 4 mcg of None, 6 mcg is mostly already an OD. But if I use an 1/4 pack of the TE-gel-pack, this is just a perfect dosage, although this 1/4 pack contains much more androstenone than 4 mcg. Calculation: A full gel pack (new version) contains 80 mcg [pheromones](https://a314.com/), 50% of these are androstenone, and so 40 mcg. 1/4 pack would mean 10 mcg. Nevertheless, I can use a 1/4 pack of TE (=10mcg androstenone), but if I use a None-only-product I am going to OD with just 6 mcg. So do the secret ingedients soften the androstenone in NPA/TE 😕 ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-te-do-the-secret-ingredients-soften-the-androstenone/42237/2 "2010-10-01T21:02:26Z")
> [@stuttgart-man](#): > > Usually I am very easily going to OD when I use a androstenone-product (which contains None only). The perfect amount is about 4 mcg of None, 6 mcg is mostly already an OD. > > But if I use an 1/4 pack of the TE-gel-pack, this is just a perfect dosage, although this 1/4 pack contains much more androstenone than 4 mcg. > > Calculation: A full gel pack (new version) contains 80 mcg pheromones, 50% of these are androstenone, and so 40 mcg. 1/4 pack would mean 10 mcg. > > Nevertheless, I can use a 1/4 pack of TE (=10mcg androstenone), but if I use a None-only-product I am going to OD with just 6 mcg. > > So do the secret ingedients soften the androstenone in NPA/TE 😕 No, the secrets make NPA sexual much stronger… But I heard that The Edge (or the gel-pack only, I don’t know) is softer as NPA, also in the same ratio… That’s only hearsay… I don’t tested The Edge, only NPA… Greetings from Germany… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 9:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-te-do-the-secret-ingredients-soften-the-androstenone/42237/3 "2010-10-01T21:17:16Z")
When I dilute NPA 5:1 with cologne the effects are the same as straight TE. My take is TE is dosed for use directly from the bottle and the 5 times more concentrated NPA is designed for mixing/dilution with cologne. Save concentration, they are basically the same formula. ---
**Author:** ![alessio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@alessio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alessio)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-te-do-the-secret-ingredients-soften-the-androstenone/42237/4 "2010-10-01T21:35:24Z")
geogogi you always the best ---
**Author:** ![stuttgart-man](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/stuttgart-man/32/1615_2.png) [@stuttgart-man](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/stuttgart-man)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2010, 10:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-te-do-the-secret-ingredients-soften-the-androstenone/42237/5 "2010-10-01T22:19:08Z")
Is it possible, that the different of NPA and TE-Gel-Packs (even if different concentration is considered) is based on the differnt carrier? Fact is that oil-based-products do not emit the pheromones as strong as alcohol-based ones. In my observation, TE-Gel-Packs are a mixture of oil and alcohol. Is it possible, that the TE-Gel-carrier do not emit the mones as strong as the NPA it do and so TE can applied more without getting an OD? ---
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-te-do-the-secret-ingredients-soften-the-androstenone/42237/6 "2010-12-09T00:25:10Z")
with tuth or pi or even a few dabs APC, I get short, mad headache, yell also and walk around clenching my teeth, not with edge or npa. It feels relaxing and friendly and has almost a dihl effect on chicas and chicos. So Im wondering what the difference is. I dont know if its A1 or androstanone in npa/te but the effects highly buffer none. Even with a none heavy fomula like ammo or Alter ego if I add some npa it takes away the anger. The only thing Ive noticed with te or npa is the word handsome and sexy is always said to me very consistently but not with other none sources. Girls blatantly told me your handsome or sexy which made me realize that ot only happened from te/npa But I still like other nones like tuth or PI for the powerful tough guy feeling for some sitatuations, If I was a fighter or something it would be great. Also the smell needs to go away of covered very well. I can only od with the smell of te/npa not the actual contect. Ive worn 20 drops of Npa with only positives but with 4 drops PI and also other nones I want to just fight with people or behave horribly to family members with the teeth clenching going on. I flipped out one time at a french cafe with my cougar friend who got hooked on me with te but thtis time I tried PI. She called her dad to pick her up lol because she was too scared to be with me. Many more things like this have happened to me not to mention drinking binges which end up real bad and Ive seen a correlation with pure high none and bad behaviour. Not with Npa/te not even a little bit. ---
**Author:** ![crashbandicoot](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/crashbandicoot/32/2321_2.png) [@crashbandicoot](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/crashbandicoot)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/npa-te-do-the-secret-ingredients-soften-the-androstenone/42237/7 "2010-12-09T00:33:35Z")
Im not saying that they are better none products just my experiences. There have been times when I was in love with pure none and thought te/npa did jack and I still love tuth but it has to be used with a safe cool guy personality or buffers probably like IG and IH which I will try soon and report back as I’m excited to see the true power of tuth. BTW instead of handsome or sexy Ive got the comment Hes hott or your hot from tuth and A1 combo so tuth is definitely a strong sexual attractant I’m sure just need to fix the combos to suit me consistently. Today I wore tuth A1 Honesty but need something more to really open up the ladies to me without intimidation. All the guys were revering to me and said hey u look like Johnny depp or hey man u look ripped and ladies were very shy, so this combo works good but need something to really add a pulling effect. Any suggestions would be appreciated also.