# Nuclear Fallout: Building a Pheremone WMD **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 22, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789 "2010-10-22T04:31:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 5:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/101 "2013-10-21T17:43:17Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > On a side note…TAK + P74 is really interesting. > > Trying to debug the beta in 74 and use this with A314, I have TAK and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) ready to go but was keeping it for after I’m recovered. 🙂 Keeping P74 fairly low around A314 won’t result in beta - Below 20mcg will still give you all fallout effects and you only need increase it if you have overt none in the mix, which also helps offset the softness. P75 would probably do much the same. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2013, 8:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/102 "2013-10-21T20:14:48Z")
I agree about the 20 mcg, as this thread below illustrates all too well. In only female company, it matters less. In mixed company…well..there’s always that alleged 5% of the world male population that is gay. I tend to go 3+ drops of 314 and 1 sp. TUTH. Getting hard to make sense of store stocks. T U T H is now in (I think) but all the 314 is out, sprays and oil. I think they have it, but the listings aren’t updated. _See what I get_ for recommending them. They sell out. > [@Best Scent for BI men?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/best-scent-for-bi-men/48851/5): > > From both reports from gay menbers and from various comments made by Jasmin and Michael over the years. Also from testing products myself and picking up on which emotions the bring about. I can throw in a ton more comments and reports but the forum is huge and I would be here all day and I have to do laundry LOL stuck_out_tongue Now the reason for my choices are threefold…what will work for the poster, what they have available for purchase, the least amount of money spent to get to his… ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 12:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/103 "2013-10-26T12:35:10Z")
Question, is this the Love Scent we are talking? Can you use the half strength? Also, is there a decent enough replacement for [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/)? This is actually for the second Fallout Mix on the first page. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 1:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/104 "2013-10-26T13:35:44Z")
There is no difference between the two “strengths” of NPA - its just bottle size and it is not an alternative/replacement for A1 or [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/105 "2013-10-26T13:40:12Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > There is no difference between the two “strengths” of NPA - its just bottle size and it is not an alternative/replacement for A1 or P83. I was actually talking about androstadienone. Oh and if there is any type of alternative for [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/106 "2013-10-26T13:41:05Z")
No difference between them either. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/107 "2013-10-26T13:41:40Z")
Okay, so its just bottle size. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/108 "2013-10-26T14:01:08Z")
Yup. No alternative for [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), except maybe P103 but its much more difficult/hit or miss to use but P83 is very much a secondary component, you don’t need it in most core fallout mixes although it is very useful in many. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 2:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/109 "2013-10-26T14:05:20Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Yup. > > No alternative for P83, except maybe P103 but its much more difficult/hit or miss to use but P83 is very much a secondary component, you don’t need it in most core fallout mixes although it is very useful in many. Okay, so its not necessary but its good. Its not similar to [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/). Got it. ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2013, 3:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/110 "2013-10-26T15:00:24Z")
> [@Crucible](#): > > Question, is this the Love Scent we are talking? Can you use the half strength? Also, is there a decent enough replacement for P83? This is actually for the second Fallout Mix on the first page. Thanks. I actually ordered A1 through alpha dream. They sell the spray version, which is a lot easier to use IMO. Androstadienone: single molecule Delivery was slow as hell though. Took them like 2.5 weeks, even though I ordered express shipping. However, they did refund me for the A1 and gave me a free bottle of Glace, so I just paid for the shipping 😛 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 8:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/111 "2013-10-29T08:33:39Z")
> [@Ekscentra](#): > > -etrione (P86) and -atrione are the only two I’m sure of, mobo. I also speculate it contains small amounts of alpha and epiandrosterone, but I can’t be entirely sure of those last two. Definitely seeing something useful in this combo - Exposed another developed fallout to this yesterday and she became very dreamy and confiding. In all the right ways. 4 2-3cm daubs from the roller, neck just below the ears and wrists, with one drop A314 split between the temples. Without the A314, PA seems to be hitting younger women nicely but none of the dreamy “I could get lost in you” aspect. She wants to meet again Thursday! 🙂 The history of this one is that she was initially developed with A314/IH/[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/), then I left-off for a while and resumed with A314/Cohesion (or A1) and recently moved to try this pairing, which seems to be moving things nicely in the right direction. ---
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 10:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/112 "2013-10-30T10:12:30Z")
Anything remotely comparable to P103 that’s still around to test? 103 was neat stuff. On a second note, I’m thinking links to competitor websites might not be the best idea on this thread. Not saying posts could get edited or deleted, but I’m not the one who would decide that. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 10:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/113 "2013-10-30T10:39:08Z")
[P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) is the nearest I’ve found - except P103 is much more physical and hits a whole lot harder. I’ve had a supply of P103 as my fallback for when P83 goes into drought for a long time now. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/114 "2013-11-06T14:36:53Z")
Once again the Posess Alpha/A314 combo did good - This time I increased to two drops A314 and fallout was fully engaged/dreamy and heaving out the IOI’s for five solid hours this afternoon. Its been a week since I last saw her. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/115 "2013-11-12T16:39:06Z")
Meeting up with a girl to study with in the library today. Gonna give this Mix a try. We’re both 20 years old, should I use 1 drop of A314 instead of 2? Also, would’ve been nice to have known where kotov applied the sprays. I guess beggers can’t be choosers 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/116 "2013-11-12T18:09:06Z")
Less for younger, yes. Don’t get hung-up on application spots - that kind of overthinking will render any pheros useless! ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/117 "2013-11-12T19:58:36Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Less for younger, yes. > > Don’t get hung-up on application spots - that kind of overthinking will render any pheros useless! Ah ok. Kotov used 2 drops of a previous rev. I heard the most recent rev of A314 is less potent. Do you recommend I use 1 or 2 drops? (My target is 19 or 20) Haha okay 🙂, I’ll go for A1 to the backsides of the neck. A314 to the back of my right ear. IS in my hair/wrists. Ammo middle of the neck. P83 Left and right bicep. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/118 "2013-11-12T20:34:17Z")
If its Rev32, just use the same dosing, its perfectly viable. ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/119 "2013-11-13T00:26:47Z")
Well I tested it out today. I was studying with 2 girls in a private room. There were actually 3 girls at one point, for about 30 mins maybe. Noticed no difference what so ever with this mix ☹ ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2013, 1:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/120 "2013-11-13T13:40:29Z")
Youth and A314 in mixes can be fickle but you are missing the point of fallout by looking for results on just one exposure. You need to run with your mix for some time around them and yes, initial exposures can seem unproductive - see if this begins to change on subsequent re-exposures [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789.md?page=5) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789.md?page=7)