# Nuclear Fallout: Building a Pheremone WMD **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 22, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789 "2010-10-22T04:31:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 7:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/121 "2013-11-16T07:23:38Z")
Just ordered A314 Oil, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), P74, P83, and TUTH…I guess its going to take a while. While I wait, do you think I may just need some Cohesion? I want this fallout something kinda bad. ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 4:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/122 "2013-11-16T16:06:47Z")
there are so many fallout options! I find it very confusing 😕 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/123 "2013-11-16T16:32:09Z")
> [@Crucible](#): > > Just ordered A314 Oil, Instant Honesty, P74, P83, and TUTH…I guess its going to take a while. While I wait, do you think I may just need some Cohesion? I want this fallout something kinda bad. Cohesion or A1 won’t go wrong if you are OK using it but you have enough to get started there already. With IH/[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/), you don’t need it but it would be a logical progression if that combo is unproductive. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2013, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/124 "2013-11-16T16:41:02Z")
> [@ThePheroNoob](#): > > there are so many fallout options! I find it very confusing 😕 That’s because fallout effects/responses cover a fairly wide range itself and there is no one certain way to promote/trigger it - then factors individual to yourself **and** your subjects also have great import. And I’m getting more good results from my A314/PA combo - Despite telling my main fallout that I was unlikely to be able to meet her yesterday, she still went to the place anyway and messaged me to say she was sitting waiting for me and when she had to leave! 😃 Oh and I’m getting secondaries - A pretty Indian woman has got very dreamy around me and the last time I was in, and attractive East European woman who is often there caught my eye when passing me - a direct but coy smile and a little wave. A come-on or what! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/125 "2013-11-17T01:51:29Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Cohesion or A1 won’t go wrong if you are OK using it but you have enough to get started there already. With IH/P74, you don’t need it but it would be a logical progression if that combo is unproductive. Roger that!!! Thanks man! ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/126 "2013-11-17T05:25:56Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > That’s because fallout effects/responses cover a fairly wide range itself and there is no one certain way to promote/trigger it - then factors individual to yourself **and** your subjects also have great import. > > And I’m getting more good results from my A314/PA combo - Despite telling my main fallout that I was unlikely to be able to meet her yesterday, she still went to the place anyway and messaged me to say she was sitting waiting for me and when she had to leave! 😃 > > Oh and I’m getting secondaries - A pretty Indian woman has got very dreamy around me and the last time I was in, and attractive East European woman who is often there caught my eye when passing me - a direct but coy smile and a little wave. A come-on or what! 😃 Oooo, nice one man! I’ve never had any luck with A314. Maybe me and my targets are too young? I’m 21 (turned 21 today actually!) and my targets are 19-21 What’s PA? I really want to give Crush a try. What should I mix it with? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 5:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/127 "2013-11-17T05:30:11Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > That’s because fallout effects/responses cover a fairly wide range itself and there is no one certain way to promote/trigger it - then factors individual to yourself **and** your subjects also have great import. > > And I’m getting more good results from my A314/PA combo - Despite telling my main fallout that I was unlikely to be able to meet her yesterday, she still went to the place anyway and messaged me to say she was sitting waiting for me and when she had to leave! 😃 > > Oh and I’m getting secondaries - A pretty Indian woman has got very dreamy around me and the last time I was in, and attractive East European woman who is often there caught my eye when passing me - a direct but coy smile and a little wave. A come-on or what! 😃 What exactly did you use to get that? ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2013, 5:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/128 "2013-11-17T05:32:45Z")
Mobo, what did you use and how long did it take? ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/129 "2013-11-20T01:04:30Z")
Guys, just ordered True Love to go along with the rest of that order. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 1:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/130 "2013-11-20T01:31:26Z")
That’s A1 and Meo-Est isn’t it? Spray or oil? Personal feeling is that oil would be most suitable but it remains the only product of their’s that I’ve any interest in trying. I did run with some Meo-Est in A314/A1/NPA and A314/IH/[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/)/TUTH mixes a good while back. Other than much increased comfort/moderation, I can’t say it made a huge difference and I didn’t really miss it - esp where IH/P74 was involved, so I wouldn’t regard it as a critical component. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/131 "2013-11-20T01:33:18Z")
> [@Crucible](#): > > Mobo, what did you use and how long did it take? Read from Page 10 - Its been maybe six/eight exposures for the East European woman and twice that for the Indian girl - Although she showed less blatent signs of emotional engagement first. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 2:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/132 "2013-11-20T02:57:07Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > That’s A1 and Meo-Est isn’t it? Spray or oil? Personal feeling is that oil would be most suitable but it remains the only product of their’s that I’ve any interest in trying. > > I did run with some Meo-Est in A314/A1/NPA and A314/IH/P74/TUTH mixes a good while back. Other than much increased comfort/moderation, I can’t say it made a huge difference and I didn’t really miss it - esp where IH/P74 was involved, so I wouldn’t regard it as a critical component. I got the oil version. I wasn’t thinking of using it with IH and [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/), just with A314 from time to time. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/133 "2013-11-20T03:25:20Z")
Yes, it would probably be most useful with A314 and/or a sexual. With IH/[P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/) it seems to be a bit more of the same. ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 12:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/134 "2013-11-20T12:55:10Z")
Mobo, what should I run with Crush to form my base fallout mix? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 3:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/135 "2013-11-20T15:40:06Z")
Treat it like A1 or Cohesion - Crush is pretty much Cohesion minus the components suspected to reduce fallout/crushyness - to that end, you have a pretty wide choice of pheros you could pair it with, or simply use it standalone or with steering. 🙂 P83 and maybe some sexual steering would seem a good start - I’d go for TUTH but being A1-based, Ammo is more viable as its alphanol is less problematic with A1. IH/IS could be useful too. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 6:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/136 "2013-11-20T18:14:55Z")
Have you tried True Love? Could you tell me what you know about it and is it anything like Cohesion? ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 6:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/137 "2013-11-20T18:24:11Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Treat it like A1 or Cohesion - Crush is pretty much Cohesion minus the components suspected to reduce fallout/crushyness - to that end, you have a pretty wide choice of pheros you could pair it with, or simply use it standalone or with steering. 🙂 > > P83 and maybe some sexual steering would seem a good start - I’d go for TUTH but being A1-based, Ammo is more viable as its alphanol is less problematic with A1. > > IH/IS could be useful too. Sounds great. I’ve always wanted to use a fallout mix with ammo in it. How many sprays of each would you recommend I start at? There isn’t much info as to how much A1 is inside Crush. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/138 "2013-11-20T19:00:56Z")
> [@Crucible](#): > > Have you tried True Love? Could you tell me what you know about it and is it anything like Cohesion? > [@Nuclear Fallout: Building a Pheremone WMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789): > > Comrades, I have been occupied these last few days perfecting a very special weapon in the Great Pheremone Arms Race. While members of this forum continue to brew mixes for meeting and attracting fine young ladies in social settings, I have taken it upon myself to pursure a slightly different kind of mix. Something catering to the less, shall we say, “sportsman like” sentimentality? A brew not meant to be wielded by soldiers on the front lines, storming bars and classrooms to chalk up a wanton … TL is Meo-Est, A1 and Est, with some A and B-nol for social steering, so its nothing I’ve not already used in other forms - Cohesion is a much more complex product. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2013, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/139 "2013-11-20T19:04:22Z")
> [@ThePheroNoob](#): > > Sounds great. I’ve always wanted to use a fallout mix with ammo in it. > > How many sprays of each would you recommend I start at? There isn’t much info as to how much A1 is inside Crush. I think its a fairly hefty dose, so I would start with one spray. I’d assume that as Crush is a variant on the Cohesion formula, its dosing would be much the same? The rest really needs you to find your own best doses but I’d tend to go with around 40mcg P83 ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/140 "2013-11-21T03:10:11Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > [Nuclear Fallout: Building a Pheremone WMD](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789) > > TL is Meo-Est, A1 and Est, with some A and B-nol for social steering, so its nothing I’ve not already used in other forms - Cohesion is a much more complex product. Hey I also just ordered some Evolve. So I have Evolve, True Love, A314, IH, P74, [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/), and TUTH. 😉 I thik I may be ready for a fallout. A314, IH, and P74. Use P83 to steer and TUTH to close A314, and True Love, Evolve to close Sound about right? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789.md?page=6) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789.md?page=8)