# Nuclear Fallout: Building a Pheremone WMD **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 22, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789 "2010-10-22T04:31:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![monesmadedoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/monesmadedoit/32/325_2.png) [@monesmadedoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/monesmadedoit)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2013, 10:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/141 "2013-11-21T22:40:40Z")
In the interest of trying to turn years of anecdotes into proven, reliable formulas, I present the following challenge: Those of you who have tested these, know what fallout is and how to create it, please answer a few simple questions. I’d like to see maybe 10-20 answers in coming months and weeks. Simple is best. My anwsers: Beta nol = doubtful. IH = yes. Alpha nol = doubtful. The third molecule in IH = probable. P83 = Maybe. THE QUESTION: The following do contribute to fallout, Yes, No or Maybe: Alpha androstenol, Beta androstenol, P83 or [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). Simplicity speaks volumes. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/142 "2013-11-22T23:15:21Z")
One last thing Mobocaster. My A314 Oil, TUTH, P74 10mcg, P83 10mcg, and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) just came in. How much of each should I use? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/143 "2013-11-23T00:00:37Z")
This is where you need to start testing to find the best dose for yourself - **Particularly** with A314, TUTH and IH. The others are more elastic in dose range but keep the [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) below 30mcg. And in other news - Primary fallout is now planning a holiday with me! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/144 "2013-11-23T00:10:50Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > This is where you need to start testing to find the best dose for yourself - **Particularly** with A314, TUTH and IH. The others are more elastic in dose range but keep the P74 below 30mcg. > > And in other news - Primary fallout is now planning a holiday with me! 😃 LOL!!! Hey, I have Evolve and Love Scent in the mail. Man, I’m ready for a change bro. How do I use the A314, just let it drip on the wrist? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/145 "2013-11-23T00:16:54Z")
> [@monesmadedoit](#): > > The following do contribute to fallout, Yes, No or Maybe: > > Alpha androstenol, Beta androstenol, P83 or Instant Honesty. Simplicity speaks volumes. Alphanol - no, in fact its positively detrimental - Except where A1 is concerned but I’d still keep the dose low. Betanol - Possibly. This was the first mone I used with any seriousness and probably still the one I’ve used the most of. I think I can identify certain fallout traits from before I knew what fallout was but this could also be the emotional engagement/bonding aspect that is already noted with Betanol. Another point worth noting is that both Betanol **and** [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) were in MX301 - Which remains the only overt sexual I’ve yet found to trigger fallout on its own. P83 - On its own, no but it can help other fallout pheros hit home. So it quite possibly works in synergy. **However** for any fallout purposes, the effective dose of P83 could well be tiny - We know its used for steering in A314, so it is possible that too much of it will work against you. There are also so many P83 mixes that don’t deliver any kind of fallout. And the breadth of possible fallout responses across such a wide range of situations seems to mitigate against a single molecule to me. IH - Yes, one of the key fallout pheros but it will not deliver much on its own - needs to be paired with something else, notably IS, P74 or A314. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/146 "2013-11-23T00:34:44Z")
> [@Crucible](#): > > LOL!!! Hey, I have Evolve and Love Scent in the mail. Man, I’m ready for a change bro. How do I use the A314, just let it drip on the wrist? Depends how much A314 I’m using - I try to get most of it up arpund my neck/throat/temples area If its one drop, it will be split just in front of the ears, two it will be between ears/wrists, three one in front of each ear, one between the wrists, four, a drop on each. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 12:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/147 "2013-11-23T00:37:32Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Depends how much A314 I’m using - I try to get most of it up arpund my neck/throat/temples area If its one drop, it will be split just in front of the ears, two it will be between ears/wrists, three one in front of each ear, one between the wrists, four, a drop on each. Thanks man. I dropped one on each wrist (2 drop) and placed them behind the ears. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/148 "2013-11-23T00:40:40Z")
Sounds good. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/149 "2013-11-23T00:57:24Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Sounds good. 🙂 Now how do you use the A1? I don’t have it yet, but its coming. That and Evolve. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/150 "2013-11-23T01:21:34Z")
I’d mix the A1 in cologne at not too strong a dose to begin with - for 12.5-15mcg per spray (see K-Train’s A1 Guide thread), then start with one spray for a few days and take it from there. You don’t need a lot of A1 either, so I’d expect 1-2 sprays (maybe three at the outside with very sexual mixes) to be effective there. Get some disposable pippettes (ebay, pharmacies, science shops) that measure in 0.25 or 0.5 ml graduations. **Do not** trust the LS dropper. Note that the effectiveness of my A314 (or APi)/Cohesion combo was greatly improved when I dropped the cohesion from two drops to one! 🙂 And keep your A1 spray to its own app point/s, so you can easily wash and reapply if it starts to get whiffy - which it is likely to do long before any other phero in your mix. Evolve is very straightforward - 1-2 sprays/drops. One in daytime/work, 2 at night. Its sexual impact builds over several hours and if you have bought the oil unscented, get a scent into it - transforms the results! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 3:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/151 "2013-11-23T03:41:59Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > I’d mix the A1 in cologne at not too strong a dose to begin with - for 12.5-15mcg per spray (see K-Train’s A1 Guide thread), then start with one spray for a few days and take it from there. You don’t need a lot of A1 either, so I’d expect 1-2 sprays (maybe three at the outside with very sexual mixes) to be effective there. Get some disposable pippettes (ebay, pharmacies, science shops) that measure in 0.25 or 0.5 ml graduations. **Do not** trust the LS dropper. > > Note that the effectiveness of my A314 (or APi)/Cohesion combo was greatly improved when I dropped the cohesion from two drops to one! 🙂 > > And keep your A1 spray to its own app point/s, so you can easily wash and reapply if it starts to get whiffy - which it is likely to do long before any other phero in your mix. > > Evolve is very straightforward - 1-2 sprays/drops. One in daytime/work, 2 at night. Its sexual impact builds over several hours and if you have bought the oil unscented, get a scent into it - transforms the results! 🙂 Thanks bro…BTW: That fallout thing REALLY works. The self effects were crazy. I was in control as well as funny. I’m not funny. This girl thinks I’m hilarious. SHE qasked to meet again! I think it may heat up some. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 4:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/152 "2013-11-23T04:16:13Z")
> [@Crucible](#): > > SHE qasked to meet again! I think it may heat up some. Good - Its up to you to see that it doesn’t cool down! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 4:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/153 "2013-11-23T04:36:03Z")
> [@Crucible](#): > > Thanks bro…BTW: That fallout thing REALLY works. The self effects were crazy. I was in control as well as funny. I’m not funny. This girl thinks I’m hilarious. SHE qasked to meet again! I think it may heat up some. Awesome, nice job man! Which mix did you use? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 4:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/154 "2013-11-23T04:47:16Z")
> [@ThePheroNoob](#): > > Awesome, nice job man! > > Which mix did you use? 🙂 A314 Oil two drops, P83 10mcg 3 sprays, [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) 10mcg 2 sprays, TUTH 1 spray, P91 1spray. ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/155 "2013-11-23T05:39:26Z")
> [@Crucible](#): > > A314 Oil two drops, P83 10mcg 3 sprays, P74 10mcg 2 sprays, TUTH 1 spray, P91 1spray. Sweet. How old are you? I’ve never had any luck with A314. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 6:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/156 "2013-11-23T06:17:17Z")
> [@ThePheroNoob](#): > > Sweet. How old are you? > > I’ve never had any luck with A314. I’m 38yrs old ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 2:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/157 "2013-11-23T14:14:42Z")
> [@Crucible](#): > > I’m 38yrs old Ah okay. That might be why? I’m not sure. Most of my target girls are 19-20 and I’m 21. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/158 "2013-11-23T14:33:39Z")
> [@ThePheroNoob](#): > > Ah okay. That might be why? I’m not sure. > > Most of my target girls are 19-20 and I’m 21. Yeah, dude this woman is super hot at 38. Part Japanese, Black, White, Turkish, and Lebanese. You need to look up as you could learn something from an older woman. Then take it back to the younger ones and be on point. For those ladies though, sub the A314 with Ammo and see if that works…another alternative is [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/). I have heard you can still get it done with just P74 and IH, but just add some MX297 to see whatsup maybe some AMMO to steer it. ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/159 "2013-11-23T15:08:23Z")
> [@Crucible](#): > > Yeah, dude this woman is super hot at 38. Part Japanese, Black, White, Turkish, and Lebanese. You need to look up as you could learn something from an older woman. Then take it back to the younger ones and be on point. > > For those ladies though, sub the A314 with Ammo and see if that works…another alternative is MX297. I have heard you can still get it done with just P74 and IH, but just add some MX297 to see whatsup maybe some AMMO to steer it. The last girl I dated for a few months was 2 years older than me - 23 years old. Yeah you’re right, I did learn A LOT from her, which is definitely helping with the younger girls. Ahh okay, I’ll give it a shot ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 4:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/160 "2013-11-23T16:29:45Z")
> [@ThePheroNoob](#): > > Ah okay. That might be why? I’m not sure. > > Most of my target girls are 19-20 and I’m 21. This is very likely why - A314 can work on younger women but it can also be very iffy indeed. Too serious/mature/“not fun”, cuddly etc. Try keeping any A314 **very** low in the mix as steering for more sociable products or use a more youthful status product like IG instead and if looking to promote fallout, look into non A314 combos instead. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789.md?page=7) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789.md?page=9)