# Nuclear Fallout: Building a Pheremone WMD **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 22, 2010, 4:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789 "2010-10-22T04:31:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/161 "2013-11-23T16:43:24Z")
> [@ThePheroNoob](#): > > The last girl I dated for a few months was 2 years older than me - 23 years old. Yeah you’re right, I did learn A LOT from her, which is definitely helping with the younger girls. > > Ahh okay, I’ll give it a shot Keep us informed bro! This is going to be good. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 10:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/162 "2013-11-23T22:17:11Z")
SteveO sent me some Ascend and Cohesion samples along with my evolve. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/163 "2013-11-23T22:25:50Z")
Spray or oil? Both are useful -Ascend will adequately help maintain a developed fallout, whilst Cohesion, although slightly less in the crush/fallout department compared to straight A1 is still a very viable product, esp alongside A314. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2013, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/164 "2013-11-23T22:41:21Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Spray or oil? > > Both are useful -Ascend will adequately help maintain a developed fallout, whilst Cohesion, although slightly less in the crush/fallout department compared to straight A1 is still a very viable product, esp alongside A314. 🙂 All are spray ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/165 "2013-11-24T05:21:42Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Spray or oil? > > Both are useful -Ascend will adequately help maintain a developed fallout, whilst Cohesion, although slightly less in the crush/fallout department compared to straight A1 is still a very viable product, esp alongside A314. 🙂 The Evolve is unscented. Do you have to be able to smell it? ---
**Author:** ![ThePheroNoob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9e8a1a/32.png) [@ThePheroNoob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ThePheroNoob)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 7:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/166 "2013-11-24T07:19:55Z")
> [@Crucible](#): > > The Evolve is unscented. Do you have to be able to smell it? Honestly, the scents from discoverxs are pretty bad. My friends ordered a few things and so did I. None of us like the scents! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 2:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/167 "2013-11-24T14:07:13Z")
> [@Crucible](#): > > The Evolve is unscented. Do you have to be able to smell it? It won’t diffuse at all well without a scent. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/168 "2013-11-24T14:10:46Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > It won’t diffuse at all well without a scent. So, I’m screwed? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/169 "2013-11-24T16:13:02Z")
No, its pretty easy to mix-in a scent - Just a few drops of good cologne is enough - it doesn’t need to be a strong scent to encourage it to diffuse well. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/170 "2013-11-24T18:51:29Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > No, its pretty easy to mix-in a scent - Just a few drops of good cologne is enough - it doesn’t need to be a strong scent to encourage it to diffuse well. It has to be the expensive variety? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/171 "2013-11-24T19:13:53Z")
The better quality colognes/scents tend to be the ones without phero-destroying antibacterials like triclosan, yes. Essential oils can be useful too but you need to be careful as some will do-for pheros very effectively. IIRC Tisha posted good info on which ones to avoid. I stuck about a dozen drops of Chanel Bleu into my unscented tester of Evolve and it transformed its effectiveness no-end. Scent was very subtle but the hits came thick and fast where before they had been sporadic/inconsistent when just layered with a cover. If you are buying it in future, the “Fresh Musk/Vetviert” scent from PXS is about the most inoffensive and easy to cover. Its also not particularly musky and actually quite pleasant. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/172 "2013-11-24T19:15:46Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > The better quality colognes/scents tend to be the ones without phero-destroying antibacterials like triclosan, yes. > > Essential oils can be useful too but you need to be careful as some will do-for pheros very effectively. IIRC Tisha posted good info on which ones to avoid. > > I stuck about a dozen drops of Chanel Bleu into my unscented tester of Evolve and it transformed its effectiveness no-end. Scent was very subtle but the hits came thick and fast where before they had been sporadic/inconsistent when just layered with a cover. Do you think Realm would work? I’m really not cool with the idea of going out and buying some cologne…LOL!!! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/173 "2013-11-24T19:18:37Z")
Realm - That’s the A1-based scent isn’t it? Yes, it should be fine. Remember it will impact on your overall dose. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/174 "2013-11-24T19:32:22Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Realm - That’s the A1-based scent isn’t it? Yes, it should be fine. Remember it will impact on your overall dose. How will it impact? I should spray more, or less? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/175 "2013-11-24T20:31:53Z")
You will need to count it as part of your overall A1 dose, yes, so probably less of that. I can’t remember offhand if anything else is in it. It would be worth looking up some of the old threads on Realm IIRC, dose is discussed. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2013, 8:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/176 "2013-11-24T20:42:32Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > You will need to count it as part of your overall A1 dose, yes, so probably less of that. I can’t remember offhand if anything else is in it. It would be worth looking up some of the old threads on Realm IIRC, dose is discussed. There is so little of it, I wonder if its enough to care. My True Love should be here this week sometime. The dose is 1-3. I have to wonder. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 1:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/177 "2013-11-25T13:50:14Z")
Tried Kotov. Subbed Cohesion instead of A1, Evolve instead of Ammo, and added 2 shots of P91. Not seeing much except people seem very unsure how to communicate with me. Total confusion. I brought Evolve and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) with me. I figured the confusion would take place, so I’m going to spruce up at about 12:30pm. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/178 "2013-11-25T15:15:02Z")
Younger 26 yr old target biting. Seems interested enough, telling me more about herself, showing pictures. Seems to need my approval. Most inetersting is the amount of inappropriate touching on her part and how much I have gotten away with. ---
**Author:** ![Crucible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Crucible](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Crucible)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/179 "2013-11-25T15:23:36Z")
Thing that frustrates me though. I know its not hitting as hard as I have heard about here, but I DID use Cohesion instead of a serious A1. When True Love comes in I think I may hit a bit harder. I don’t believe in the AXE effect, but I do believe in the domino effect. Just some dominoes fall harder and faster than others. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2013, 3:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789/180 "2013-11-25T15:27:24Z")
I’m not at all convinced that P91 has any value for fallout - In fact I’ve found it detracts from A314 any time I’ve had them on together. Makes it very unfocused. It does do well in a non-fallout mix with A1 and TUTH though. Also, IIRC both Evolve and Cohesion have DHEA or DHEAS - which may not help you any, maybe stick to one or the other to avoid raising the proportion too much? [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789.md?page=8) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/nuclear-fallout-building-a-pheremone-wmd/42789.md?page=10)