# Oak moss and other Andron ingredients **URL:** \ **Category:** Parfum / Fragrance\ **Created:** [September 21, 2014, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oak-moss-and-other-andron-ingredients/62880 "2014-09-21T23:12:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![vanadium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@vanadium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanadium)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2014, 11:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oak-moss-and-other-andron-ingredients/62880/1 "2014-09-21T23:12:34Z")
We have a lot of Jovan Andron fans here, bemoaning the loss of that scent, even if we suspect (with good reason) that AD pheros are purer, have higher content, and pack more punch. Well, it’s time to stop whining and do something about it. Did you know you can buy [60 ml of oak moss essential oil on eBay for $9](http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oak-Moss-Oil-Essential-Trading-Post-Oils-2-fl-oz-60-ML-/231333643882?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35dc8f466a&autorefresh=true)? Yup, the FDA banned it for perfumes because of skin irritation in some people (? - I have to find official confirmation of this specific detail), but it was widely used in perfumes for centuries, and is still widely used for candles and other scented products. Heck, oak moss is still FDA approved for food [21CFR172.510](http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/cdrh/cfdocs/cfcfr/CFRSearch.cfm?fr=172.510), April 2014] Since 1980, I have worn several scents that I later learned (while researching Andron last year) had contained oak moss extract and never had a skin issue, so I feel safe with it for MY personal use. I can’t advise it for YOU. You can also get tinctures of most of the other ingredients, like civet musk, castoreum, ambergris (even premixed, though I doubt it’s exactly the same mix Andron had) for a modest price – maybe not top grade, but neither was Andron, given its price and mass market sales volume. I started to do this experiment last fall. The oak moss essential oil was a revelation for me. It was pretty potent (60 ml will last me years in a suitable dilution), and the scent somehow just made me happy. It also seemed to have pretty impressive silage without being overbearing: once I returned to the garage after working there for a couple of hours in an overcoat that had a few drops of extract under the back of the collar, and I could smell just enough of that happy scent (like an unexpected memory of a past love) I don’t want to get too poetic, but it had some great properties for winter I was more nervous about overdoing the musky components, since I was just getting back into [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/), and remembered that they used to have effects at levels I couldn’t detect, so when I misplaced my “kit”, I let it slide. I’d just found AD, and it kept me busy. Well, I just found my “kit” again, unpacking my fall clothes, and I’m now more confident in my ability to start with very low concentrations and observe carefully, so I don’t cross the line. We don’t need Jovan to bring Andron back. We can make our own – better! ---
**Author:** ![Panikos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/panikos/32/1019_2.png) [@Panikos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Panikos)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2014, 3:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oak-moss-and-other-andron-ingredients/62880/2 "2014-10-01T15:54:26Z")
OakMoss info and also Perfumes and Colognes With Oakmoss [Oakmoss perfume ingredient, Oakmoss fragrance and essential oils K9ngdom Plantae, division Bryophyta](http://www.fragrantica.com/notes/Oakmoss-39.html) ---
**Author:** ![vanadium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/c4cdca/32.png) [@vanadium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vanadium)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2014, 3:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oak-moss-and-other-andron-ingredients/62880/3 "2014-10-02T03:52:02Z")
Thanks. That was helpful! ---
**Author:** ![paradox1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/paradox1/32/1196_2.png) [@paradox1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/paradox1)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oak-moss-and-other-andron-ingredients/62880/4 "2014-10-06T16:40:42Z")
This is funny. I was just reading about Oakmoss last week. I am trying to get into perfuming as it is the other side of the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) equation. I was contemplating using Oakmoss in a cologne mix until I read that it may irritate skin when used above 1%. Thanks for the links. I believe that a pheromone flourishes in a well scented cologne mix. The whole process of perfuming still confuses me but I am plowing through material in hopes that a light bulb will go off and I will understand the process. ---
**Author:** ![Garnet\_Donald](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6de8d8/32.png) [@Garnet\_Donald](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Garnet_Donald)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 5:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oak-moss-and-other-andron-ingredients/62880/5 "2014-10-18T05:04:56Z")
Oakmoss is an interesting ingredient that use in the earlier days, really i want to smell some real Oakmoss! ---
**Author:** ![dorfmeister](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dorfmeister/32/5188_2.png) [@dorfmeister](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dorfmeister)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oak-moss-and-other-andron-ingredients/62880/6 "2016-03-17T01:04:03Z")
Wanting to put together a mix using animalics and natursl pheromones.