# Observations and Reactions

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955>\
**Category:** Women's Journals\
**Created:** [May 14, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955 "2009-05-14T04:26:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/141 "2009-10-07T03:04:30Z")

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Thanks, Snoopyace. I’m glad you stopped by.

I’ll be eagerly awaiting your report of TUTH and TAF with the girlfriend. 😃

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2009, 4:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/142 "2009-10-08T04:50:04Z")

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Long, long day. Shopping trip with teenage daugher. 1.75 hours on the highway, then shop all day, eat too much junk food, then 1.75 hours on the highway to come home.

I’m pooped.

Good day, though.  
**Product:** [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/)  
**Application:** 4 sprays, to arms, hair  
**Product:** Instant Shine 2x strength  
**Application:** 3 sprays, neck, chest, wrists

Good feelings all around. We played, joked, bonded in new ways. I love IShine.

The IH is so good for letting down your walls, really talking. A lot of heartwrenching discussion in the car, working through some youthful angst and disgust.

I am so truly impressed with these two products. I would be a happy customer if these were the only two available. Of course, I’m an even _happier_ customer since there are so many playthings available. But IShine and IHonesty rock!

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/143 "2009-10-09T02:54:55Z")

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I have placed my order and this is what I’m getting:

P74  
P78  
P83  
P93  
P98  
Androsterone  
MX274  
and my beloved [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/)…4x strength this time.

Looking forward to these putatives. I’ve been wanting to play with P83 for a long time, and P74 too.

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/144 "2009-10-09T03:39:26Z")

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> [@moonwhisper](#):
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> I have placed my order and this is what I’m getting:
> 
> P74  
> P78  
> P83  
> P93  
> P98  
> Androsterone  
> MX274  
> and my beloved Instant Shine…4x strength this time.
> 
> Looking forward to these putatives. I’ve been wanting to play with P83 for a long time, and P74 too.

Still need to try [P93](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p93/) and P98. The rest are great though. The rone will be good for that time of the month, as well as P93

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**Author:** ![jamie-lmp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@jamie-lmp](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamie-lmp)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 4:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/145 "2009-10-09T04:10:39Z")

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i haven’t posted in a long time. I had bought hem to see if i could get my husband attention. I really didint get his attention, I did get his friends attention. I had bought I/Shine, both sexiness, and a few others. I love I/shine and sexiness A, they work great on my new boyfriend. no husband… long story… good story but long. the i/ shine makes everyone happy. The sexiness gives me an air of confidence. i stand taller, and im happy. I went to the local bar to get supper and my daughter want to play pool. A guy from across the room came over to help with the pool table, I wasn’t having an trouble.. oh well, i smiled and said thank you.. my boyfriend is the bar owner and he was cooking that night and saw everything. Let’s just say he talked to me on the phone till midnight ( he worked a 12 shift before that). It was most about sex… i went there this morning two sprays one on hair and one spilt between wrist. I think he licked it all off… All i can say is wow. life is good

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2009, 11:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/146 "2009-10-09T11:24:22Z")

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Hi jamieImp. Sounds like you’re having fun with your pheros.  
You can open up your own journal to record your experiences here:  
[http://www.pheromonetalk.com/womens-journals/](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/womens-journals/)

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/147 "2009-10-10T19:39:36Z")

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I’m having a little phero break to recharge. Life has been simply crazy lately and I need a break from everything. Back to testing in a couple of days.

I have a thought about P91.  
I noticed that every time I used it I got very tired. The sort of drooping, wiped-out feeling that leaves you asleep sitting up while people are talking to you. VERY tired.  
I didn’t make the connection until later, when I was looking over some notes. But the extreme tiredness correlates to the P91, and not to any other phero that I can tell.

At first I thought it was because I was overtired, overworked. But the incidents are too specific to the P91. I did perk up some with coffee, but it was pervasive, and never really went away until I woke the next day.

Frustrating. I was starting to really like this stuff. Now I’m wondering if I should wear it anymore if I’m going to be driving.

Just to clarify, I was wearing 50mcg when experiencing the tiredness. I don’t recall any tired effects at dosages lower than that.

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**Author:** ![funtimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@funtimes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/funtimes)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/148 "2009-10-12T02:40:32Z")

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> [@moonwhisper](#):
>
> I have placed my order and this is what I’m getting:
> 
> P74  
> P78  
> P83  
> P93  
> P98  
> Androsterone  
> MX274  
> and my beloved Instant Shine…4x strength this time.
> 
> Looking forward to these putatives. I’ve been wanting to play with P83 for a long time, and P74 too.

ok reading all this stuff makes me excited and looking forward to writing up my own post with hopeful experiences that others have had. So whats the deal with taf? and is it really that good with tuth? And I really wanna know about p83. All these fourums remind me of that movie love potion #9. Is there a product like that?

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**Author:** ![funtimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@funtimes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/funtimes)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/149 "2009-10-12T02:47:13Z")

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> [@moonwhisper](#):
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> A while back I tried out a test of TAK with my little ones. I was desperately needing them to take a nap, because I was exhausted that day, and exceedingly busy. I had tested out TAK pretty extensively myself, and was confident that they would come to no harm, and this is what happened:
> 
> Child A is 4.5 yrs old, and weighs 36 lbs.  
> Child B is 3 yrs old and weighs 38 lbs.  
> Just for all of you who like to keep it technical. 🙂
> 
> Half an hour before naptime I sprayed each of their pillowcases with TAK, 25mcg each.  
> Child B also received to her pillow 1 spray of Instant Shine.
> 
> When I put them to bed I observed how they reacted to the pheros.  
> Child A quietly laid there on her bed, on her back, playing with her dolly and singing to it. She seemed content to be in bed, which is not normal, but did not sleep.
> 
> Child B laid on her tummy, and was very still. She laid as if pasted there and didn’t fuss or flop around as she often does at naptime. I got a little worried, and checked on her, but her breathing was normal, even and deep. She slept 1 hour, and woke up very sweaty. Her shirt was damp and I had to give her a bath.
> 
> Interesting, and maybe informative to other mothers who get desperate for some quiet.  
> I don’t know if I would do it again, I felt kinda funny about using pheros to induce sleep.  
> I dont know why, I don’t feel funny using pheros to induce a good mood in the same children.

how do kids respond to this say a314 or whatever you maybe wearing? It makes me a bit worried about the effect on your child. And does age matter on each effect?

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**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 3:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/150 "2009-10-12T03:08:33Z")

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nah nothing like love potion #9. and he does bring up a valid point with A314. I hadnt thought of it before, but you might be playing with fire when it comes to your children’s bond to you and natural development. who knows though?

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 3:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/151 "2009-10-12T15:22:00Z")

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> [@funtimes](#):
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> ok reading all this stuff makes me excited and looking forward to writing up my own post with hopeful experiences that others have had. So whats the deal with taf? and is it really that good with tuth? And I really wanna know about p83. All these fourums remind me of that movie love potion #9. Is there a product like that?

TAF is a molecule whose main funtion seems to be increasing a person’s focus and concentration. When paired with TUTH, it ramps up the physical sensations because it causes your brain to focus on that more. It seems to magnify the often overlooked parts of whatever you’re doing.

Makes it seem like the first time again.

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2009, 8:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/152 "2009-10-12T20:58:27Z")

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> [@moonwhisper](#):
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> I have placed my order and this is what I’m getting:
> 
> P74  
> P78  
> P83  
> P93  
> P98  
> Androsterone  
> MX274  
> and my beloved Instant Shine…4x strength this time.

This lovely package arrived today. It is proof how overtired and distracted I’ve been today…I forgot it was coming.

Free gift of MX335, thank you Androtics.  
Lovely chocolate, yummy, yummy. This was the first chocolate that made it to me without melting first. The weather here has cooled considerably.  
My mouth is happy now. 🆒

I also received the fragrance testers, FF20, FF21, FF22.  
I did not order them and was delightfully surprised to find them hanging around in the bottom of the package, cozily wrapped in their green blanket. I haven’t even sniffed them yet, but I’m looking forward to testing. And if I ever smell one of these scents when I’m out, I’ll have advanced notice that I’m in the presence of a pheromone wearer. 🙄

I am wearing one spray of P74 right now, because I ordered it in Coconut-vanilla and wanted to check out the scent. I haven’t had opportunity to smell this one before.

My first thought was “Coppertone baby”, you know, the girl in the ad where the dog is pulling her drawers off. That is the connection I made to this stuff when it was still wet. Bright sunshiny beach; oily, sweaty bodies; lazy summertime.  
After it dried down 10 minutes or so, I got the ‘dusty’ characteristic that others have talked about. To me it smells like a vanilla candle that should have been discarded several months ago, sort of old and musty.

It seems to have the same dry, powderiness that I get from chocolatini, and might blend well with it. That would smell like some sort of dessert…coconut cream pie drizzled with chocolate liqueur. Anybody hungry?

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**Author:** ![funtimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@funtimes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/funtimes)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/153 "2009-10-13T00:48:01Z")

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> [@moonwhisper](#):
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> TAF is a molecule whose main funtion seems to be increasing a person’s focus and concentration. When paired with TUTH, it ramps up the physical sensations because it causes your brain to focus on that more. It seems to magnify the often overlooked parts of whatever you’re doing.
> 
> Makes it seem like the first time again.

wow that sounds awesome but I know what I read what it did to you, but as a guy how would that react to me, and the people around me?

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**Author:** ![funtimes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@funtimes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/funtimes)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 1:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/154 "2009-10-13T01:38:39Z")

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> [@moonwhisper](#):
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> **Product:** [Instant](https://a314.com/product/instant-sexiness/) Honesty  
> **Application:** 3 sprays, to back of neck and hair  
> **Product:** Instant Shine  
> **Application:** 4 sprays, 2x strength, to neck, chest, wrists, forearms  
> **Self Effects:** Content and happy, not concerned about anything  
> **Environment:** indoors, room @ 500 square feet
> 
> **Effect on others:** This was a social group of just women. I wanted to leave off all of the sexy stuff, because I feel like I have grown apart from a couple of these ladies that are dear to me, and I didn’t want anything to be off-putting during this gathering. So I loaded up on the feel good stuff, and the relax and talk to me.
> 
> I thought about using Spaceland, but I still can’t wrap myself around that smell. I have a hard time using anything I’m not wholehearted about, because I’m tense and self-conscious, and I think that negates a lot of the effects.  
> (This is completely unrelated, but last week I bought a new computer desk, and the damn thing smelled like clary sage. I almost returned it, but the smell was not overpowering, and it wore off after about a week. Ugghh.)
> 
> So we got together around six pm, expecting to spend a couple of hours, just eating, talking… you know. We had a great time, lots of laughs, but nothing of note, just happy girls. At about eight people started drifting away, and by 8:30 there were just three of us left. Pheros are now three hours old.
> 
> The discussion turns a sharp corner, and one poor woman starts telling us about her home situation, which is awful, as she has an elderly relative who is ill and unable to care for his own personal needs. He has suffered from several health matters, and now is incontinent and belligerent and verbally abusive…it’s just too sad. Being the primary caregiver, this poor lady is exhausted and emotionally drained, and it all just came pouring out of her.
> 
> Every so often she would put a hand over her mouth and say, “I didn’t just say that.”  
> She is normally much more reticent and does not easily share her private life. Instant Honesty was at the base of it, I’m sure.
> 
> This was not the only incident of IH doing it’s thing…we didn’t separate and go home until almost midnight, after over 5 hours of conversation. That surprised me, in a good way. I didn’t mind being tired the next day because I got to re-connect with these two wonderful women.
> 
> The social products sometimes get overlooked because people are looking for sexually charged mixes, and slathering on the -none and cops. That is wonderful stuff, but there are times when the socials work so much better. I love Instant Honesty, but next time I’m buying 4x strength, so I don’t have to spray so much.

Wow that sounds like a truth serum. How many people just tell you truthful stuff about themselves while your on that?

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/155 "2009-10-13T14:33:51Z")

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> [@funtimes](#):
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> wow that sounds awesome but I know what I read what it did to you, but as a guy how would that react to me, and the people around me?

You can always do a search and find out what other guys have experienced. There are a lot of experienced users out there.  
If you’re looking for a direction to proceed in, try mark-in-dallas journal. He has been using pheros for a long time and knows a lot about them.

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/156 "2009-10-13T14:40:41Z")

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> [@funtimes](#):
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> Wow that sounds like a truth serum. How many people just tell you truthful stuff about themselves while your on that?

It happens more often than not, but not all the time. No phero will control a person’s behavior. Just steer them a little in their choices.

You’d be surprised at some of the things people will say, though.  
I’ve often wanted a truth-serum strength version of IH for when my daughter starts dating. 🙂

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2009, 3:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/157 "2009-10-13T15:44:37Z")

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Initial responses to the FF20, FF21 and FF22 scent package testers.

**FF20**  
This one smells clean and soapy to me. It makes me think of Irish Spring soap, and for that reason it strikes a chord. My husband used to wash with Irish Spring when we were still dating, and the smell takes me back. For sentimental reasons, I like it.  
But I don’t really care for the scent on its own merits.

**FF21**  
This is much stronger. Herbaceous and citrusy. It has better diffusion, I think, than the others, and seems to last longer. It also felt greasy on the skin when applied, which makes me think it has a higher oil content than FF20 and FF22. This could very well be why it lasts so much longer.  
It makes me think of mug shaving soap.

**FF22**  
This one is lighter, more spicy and somewhat sweet. The smell of sandalwood is very obvious to me. It makes me think of a sunshiny day.  
This one makes me feel comfortable, ‘at home’. I could get really close to this.  
I can’t seem to stop sniffing it, really enjoying this scent.  
If I could still vote, I would vote for FF22.

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2009, 3:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/158 "2009-10-15T03:04:24Z")

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Trying out Androsterone. I have been hoping for an unflappable, don’t really care kind of vibe from it. We’ll see what we get.

First trial:  
**Product:** Androsterone  
**Application:** 25 mcg to neck  
**Self Effects** : none of note.

Next day:  
**Product:** Androsterone  
**Application:** 50 mcg to neck  
**Self Effects** :  
I’m hoping that what happened is just a neurotransmitter overflow, and not going to be what I experience always with androsterone.

After about 10 minutes I began to get very irritable. Little things would set me off and make me very upset.

At 30 minutes I didn’t want anyone around me at all, which was horrible timing since my little ones wanted their breakfast. They were all crowded around my legs and telling me all at once what they wanted to eat…  
‘cereal’, ‘no…give me the pink bowl!’, ‘I want toast with peanut butter, no…jelly, no…apple butter’, ‘are we out of orange juice?’ , ‘can you make eggs?’ , ‘she finished the cereal that I wanted’ , ‘where are the bagels?’  
on and on and on it went. And I got slowly more and more frustrated and irritable until I finally went to my room and cried and raged in there by myself for a little bit. Thinking I was better, I came back out and cleaned up the kitchen.

At 1 hour I was in a full blown panic attack. Rapid heartbeat, hot alternating with cold shakes and sweats, intense claustrophobia, pain between the shoulder blades, difficulty breathing, lashing out at everyone around me.  
I eventually left the house for an hour or so to calm down.

I’m not sure how long the pheros lasted, all I can tell you for sure is that it was a full two hours after application before I really felt like myself again.

I’m not going to repeat my trial tomorrow, because I am taking my handicapped brother shopping, my four youngest children as well. If I were to have another reaction like this it would be disastrous.  
Likewise Friday I have to work in a somewhat unfamiliar environment, so no Androsterone testing that day.  
So testing is postponed until probably Saturday.

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**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2009, 1:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/159 "2009-12-26T13:55:11Z")

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Two months is WAY too long to be away. Didja miss me??

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**Author:** ![madison](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/madison/32/546_2.png) [@madison](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/madison)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/observations-and-reactions/28955/160 "2009-12-27T04:57:40Z")

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> [@moonwhisper](#):
>
> Two months is WAY too long to be away. Didja miss me??

Only slightly! 😛

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