# OD on alpha-Androstenol does give negative effects!! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 21, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786 "2008-10-21T20:07:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Glorbon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@Glorbon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Glorbon)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2008, 8:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/1 "2008-10-21T20:07:29Z")
So well i have been trying out spaceland which contains alooot of Androstenol in it.. Well i went all from 1 spray to like 7 and at the high-doses i realy noticed a wierd reaction from people around me.. They were acting like i was fragile in some way, i got questions like why are u down and what is the problem, all day long :S I think an OD on this stuff really sends out the vibe that you are “weak” and “fragille”? Has any1 else noticed this? ---
**Author:** ![phillykid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b782af/32.png) [@phillykid](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/phillykid)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/2 "2008-10-22T00:43:38Z")
7 sprays of spaceland… omg… what’s the self-effect??? ---
**Author:** ![Glorbon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@Glorbon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Glorbon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 6:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/3 "2008-10-22T06:06:14Z")
The wierd thing is that i have tested both Alpha and Beta Androstenol from low doses to exremely high.. Instant Honesty, [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Spaceland.. And i haven’t gotten any selfeffects yet.. :S So i’m gona continue experimenting with this “strange” pheromone. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 6:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/4 "2008-10-22T06:33:42Z")
> [@Glorbon](#): > > The wierd thing is that i have tested both Alpha and Beta Androstenol from low doses to exremely high.. > > Instant Honesty, Instant Openness, Spaceland.. > > And i haven’t gotten any selfeffects yet.. :S So i’m gona continue experimenting with this “strange” pheromone. Actually I experienced exactly the same thing, zero self-effects. However those around me were “verbally enhanced” something fierce. Not a pretty sight. Incidentally, you should never wear a high dose of alpha androstenol as a standalone. You should always balance a strong dose of Androstenol with “manly” [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) such Androsterone and/or Androstenone. Thus, you’ll be seen as an attractive and masculine guy whom everybody wants to talk to, not as a soft-ass sounding board. ---
**Author:** ![Glorbon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/278dde/32.png) [@Glorbon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Glorbon)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 3:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/5 "2008-10-22T15:46:08Z")
Yeah well the wierd thing when i wear Androstenol it realy takes away all the other effects from my “mix” and gives me the signal that iam fragile.. I have been combining Androstenol with both [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and even Turn up the Heat.. And still the wierd pheromone called Androstenol is kinda “destroying” my mixes :S ---
**Author:** ![Hazard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hazard/32/1153_2.png) [@Hazard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Hazard)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/6 "2008-10-22T16:35:23Z")
> [@Glorbon](#): > > Yeah well the wierd thing when i wear Androstenol it realy takes away all the other effects from my “mix” and gives me the signal that iam fragile.. > > I have been combining Androstenol with both Instant Gentleman and even Turn up the Heat.. And still the wierd pheromone called Androstenol is kinda “destroying” my mixes :S leave it out of a mix and see what happens… maybe you don’t need it. ~Haz~ ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/7 "2008-10-22T16:53:27Z")
> [@](#): > > Incidentally, you should never wear a high dose of alpha androstenol as a standalone. You should always balance a strong dose of Androstenol with “manly” pheromones such Androsterone and/or Androstenone. Thus, you’ll be seen as an attractive and masculine guy whom everybody wants to talk to, not as a soft-ass sounding board. A nice mix for me is 2 ammo, 6 Instant Shine, 4 Instant Openness. Another nice mix would be 2 Turn up the heat, 1 [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and 6 Instant Openness. My sweet spot of none is 5mcg give or take 2.5mcg depending on enviroment. I had loads of fun with a high dose of Instant Honesty the other day (about 12 sprays) as a standalone and tommorow I’m going to try 12 Instant Openness. Should I keep to 5mcg of none or up it some more? I definatly want the sexual edge but high doses of the Androstenol’s seem real real fun and I’d love to send that vibe out without compramising. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 12:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/8 "2008-10-23T00:15:26Z")
Wow fragile, thats the first I heard of that effect. What is giving you the impression that people think your fragile ? Do they verbalize it ? You may be zoning out a bit on high doses of anol and looking zoned out may make people ask “whats wrong?” Tisha ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 9:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/9 "2008-10-23T21:32:06Z")
It’s not so much fragile but I can see what he means. It’s very light and playfull and can feel very unsexual. I wish there was a way to get the best of both worlds. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/10 "2008-10-23T21:58:42Z")
> [@](#): > > It’s very light and playfull and can feel very unsexual. LOL thats why we call it a social. Its causes attraction but not of the sexual nature. Although sometimes you will effect a person who gets turned on by the chatty vibe and it could turn sexual. > [@](#): > > I wish there was a way to get the best of both worlds. There is spike it with [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) 😉 (only if your experienced) Tish ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2008, 10:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/11 "2008-10-23T22:25:48Z")
haha I forgot all about p83. For sure that gets people very chatty and is also very sexual. ---
**Author:** ![pherolover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb8c5e/32.png) [@pherolover](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherolover)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 8:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/12 "2009-05-22T08:24:10Z")
Hi Tish, What was your experience with [androstenol](javascript:void(0)😉, and p83? Thanks! There is spike it with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) 😉 (only if your experienced) Tish ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/13 "2009-05-22T11:57:35Z")
Very interesting report! I explored the enhancement of agressive behavior by socials in [Two mechanisms by which pheromones increase the frequency of aggressive behavior](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/two-mechanisms-by-which-pheromones-increase-the-frequency-of-aggressive-behavior/29033/1) . I think you are showing another side of the effect of socials, how friends and non-agressive people can react to a signature change that shows you lack the ability to defend yourself. This may be interpreted as fragility or sickness, especially by people who know you and expect a different [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) signature. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 6:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/14 "2009-05-23T06:52:02Z")
> [@](#): > > Hi Tish, > What was your experience with androstenol, and p83? Thanks! Well with [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) on its own I see a lot more peacocking and increased physical contact. Not just coming from others but from my own reaction to it. When I add it to anol I get more verbal sensuality to go with it. I notice a sexy mischieviousness in men, a change in the tone of voice when they speak to me. The seduction sort of oozes from their voice, More innuendos and a willingness to throw caution to the wind more verbally. I find my own behavior changes from it more drastically or more noticeably with this one then with other mones which is why I have always felt P83 to be male in nature. At times because I am so open to begin with I have to hold myself in check or I will become to forward with my flirtiness and contact with people. My own behavior change could be what is triggering such a strong reaction in others when I use it. ---
**Author:** ![pherolover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/eb8c5e/32.png) [@pherolover](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherolover)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 7:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/od-on-alpha-androstenol-does-give-negative-effects/21786/15 "2009-05-23T07:22:19Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Well with P83 on its own I see a lot more peacocking and increased physical contact. Not just coming from others but from my own reaction to it. When I add it to anol I get more verbal sensuality to go with it. > > I notice a sexy mischieviousness in men, a change in the tone of voice when they speak to me. The seduction sort of oozes from their voice, More innuendos and a willingness to throw caution to the wind more verbally. > > I find my own behavior changes from it more drastically or more noticeably with this one then with other mones which is why I have always felt P83 to be male in nature. At times because I am so open to begin with I have to hold myself in check or I will become to forward with my flirtiness and contact with people. My own behavior change could be what is triggering such a strong reaction in others when I use it. Thanks Tish. I’ve noticed more hits since I started adding some p83 to my regular mix.