# ODing on Instant Honesty, what happens? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 25, 2008, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394 "2008-06-25T06:45:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Kbizzy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kbizzy/32/166_2.png) [@Kbizzy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kbizzy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 6:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/1 "2008-06-25T06:45:11Z")
Just curious to know if you can OD on [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/), or Instant Opennes? I learned after reading posts that if you OD on something like Ammo, A314, and Turn up the Heat you will be coming on strong and turn away the subject. I. Opennes, and I. Honesty are suppose to make woman or people feel comfortable around you.. so the more the better right or wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/2 "2008-06-25T06:47:14Z")
I think Gegogi should be credited for this phrase, but I think the proper description is ‘Verbal Diarrhea’. 😃 People talk waaaaay too much. Not necessarily the more the better, but certainly the more the stronger reaction. Better would be dependant on what your objectives are. ---
**Author:** ![Kbizzy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kbizzy/32/166_2.png) [@Kbizzy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kbizzy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 6:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/3 "2008-06-25T06:53:44Z")
This phero stuff is so interesting. What if you combo and applied standard dose to Turn up the Heat, and OD’d on the [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) or Openness.. would would be the effect? ---
**Author:** ![robert1940](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@robert1940](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/robert1940)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 7:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/4 "2008-06-25T07:05:29Z")
yeah im interested too in finding out about that . major openess and honesty and heavy none. the thing is where to apply all that honesty and openess with getting the less effect on self ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 7:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/5 "2008-06-25T07:38:32Z")
Too much [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) will creep people out, that’s the easiest way to put it. Their logical brain may at some point jump in and go “woah!”. It’s a bit “hypnotic” in effect, it builds up trust and rapport quickly and that can seem unnatural if you force it too much. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 7:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/6 "2008-06-25T07:56:20Z")
> [@](#): > > I think Gegogi should be credited for this phrase, but I think the proper description is ‘Verbal Diarrhea’. Nah, I called it motomouth. And it can be a real nightmare, especially if they’re a natural talker. I seen DIHL a number of times while using OD levels of alpha nol. They can be like putty for those precious few seconds of befuddlement. After that, look out motomouth is on the loose. I usually have to run for cover. Will all this said, even OD levels of nol will not force anybody to talk if they don’t want to. However if they do, you’ll get it in spades. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/7 "2008-06-25T09:43:07Z")
OD as we use it here has a specific meaning and reaction Place pointer here \>\>\>\>\>\> OD Overuse of certain mones will not increase the reactions you get. Usually it will just overload the neurotransmitters in the brain and cause a spacey feeling or headache. New mone users commonly make the mistake of thinking “wow that worked well if I use more it will work better” Its not the case with mones. More is not better, more is just a overload and waste and can even reverse the effect of some products. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Kbizzy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kbizzy/32/166_2.png) [@Kbizzy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kbizzy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/8 "2008-06-25T16:07:48Z")
I saw the following types of phero’s listed on 007 pherograph. I noticed that most of the products did not contain all of these ingredients except [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) which contains three of them which makes it the most popular product. If someone can elaborate the effects of each phero or point me to a thread that describes the following. **Androstenone- Androsterone- Alpha Androstenol- Beta Androstenol- Androstienone-** **Sorry I need a Phero 101 crash course .** ---
**Author:** ![Phya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/94ad74/32.png) [@Phya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phya)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/9 "2008-06-25T18:01:03Z")
It’s cool Kbizzy, we all start somewhere. Since you stated earlier that you are curious to see what the effects are, I think the best thing for you to do is to wear TUTH and a lot of Instant Honesty and find out for yourself. Who knows, it might be the perfect combination for you, you never know. The same goes for all the pheromones you listed. Those ingredients are more or less the foundation upon which all products draw from. It would do you well to be able to distinguish each pheromone from experience. So, go try them all. Try some [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), which is mostly alpha androstenol, then try some Instant Honesty, which is mostly beta androstenol, and compare the two, it will give you insights into how the two androstenols are different. Then go try -none, and -rone, etc… ---
**Author:** ![Kbizzy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kbizzy/32/166_2.png) [@Kbizzy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kbizzy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/10 "2008-06-25T19:09:03Z")
Just wondering… and was just curious about the OD factor with something that causes opennes and honesty vs. a sexual stimulant.. I was just refering back to the move Oceans 13 where he applies to Gilroy.. when they planned the mission the guy said I will get you the strongest one.. well in the movie when the hot Cougar(40+ woman) was going gaga over the guy she said you are the **“most honest man I have met”..** I dont know if any of you caught that.. I know its just a move but I am sure the producer did some research as to the effect of pheros in that scene… _So that is where I thought well what happens if you OD on something that just draws honesty or opennes.._ There I said it!🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/11 "2008-06-25T21:08:18Z")
> [@Kbizzy](#): > > Just curious to know if you can OD on Instant Honesty, or Instant Openness? I am not sure, but it might end up being something like Catholic confessional. Now that would be something interesting for a priest working confessional to do 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/12 "2008-06-25T21:51:00Z")
> [@Kbizzy](#): > > I saw the following types of phero’s listed on 007 pherograph. I noticed that most of the products did not contain all of these ingredients except Ammo which contains three of them which makes it the most popular product. If someone can elaborate the effects of each phero or point me to a thread that describes the following. > > **Androstenone-** > **Androsterone-** > **Alpha Androstenol-** > **Beta Androstenol-** > **Androstienone-** > > **Sorry I need a Phero 101 crash course .** Androstenone is found in both men and women but is much more predominant in men . It increases aggressiveness and sexual tension. It can project a Alpha or good mate choice vibe Androsterone signals dominance and masculinity Androstadienone signals, Love, comfort. Its wildly used to calm and ease women. Alpha Androstenol it signals friendly approachable chatty. Beta Androstenol is similar to Alpha Androstenol but deeper on a more intimate connecting level You forgot 2 Copulins Made by only women, they signal fertility and attractiveness. They also arouse males. EST the female equivalent to Androstadienone it signals femininity and can be mood elevating to men. These are the main [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) you see in most mixes. As you learn about pheromones and various products you may see some with other technical names. Here at Androtics these chemicals exist and are sold but they are just not called by there technical name. They fall under Putatives or single molecules that acts as a pheromone. They are advanced and not yet totally proven as pheromones. Androtics is pretty upfront about that as opposd to companies who list them on there products as actual pheromones. ---
**Author:** ![Daddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cab0a1/32.png) [@Daddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daddy)\ **Post date:** [June 26, 2008, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/14 "2008-06-26T01:03:45Z")
I sprayed Openness 3 times on both forearms (wrists, inside elbows, and actual forearms) today before work. I work as a cashier at an athletic supply store. I worked 4 hours today. It was a slow, but steady stream of customers today. Only once, did someone say something that made me wonder if it was the pheromones. I also sprayed Gentleman once on both wrists, if that info is of any help. ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/15 "2011-01-17T04:03:47Z")
Too much IH can also be asexual in my experience. I use it sparingly on dates if at all. ---
**Author:** ![Holmes](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/holmes/32/2128_2.png) [@Holmes](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Holmes)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 4:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/16 "2011-01-17T04:11:14Z")
> [@Whitehall](#): > > Too much IH can also be asexual in my experience. Elaborate… ---
**Author:** ![Noble](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/noble/32/1768_2.png) [@Noble](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Noble)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 6:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/17 "2011-01-17T06:42:49Z")
One day I sprayed about 6x IH, and I’ll never do it again. I _never_ get self-effects from pheromones, but that time, I did. It made me all clammed up and moody, depressed with no ambition. Higher doses can RUIN your day! Lower should be fine, though. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Spinach](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/spinach/32/348_2.png) [@Spinach](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Spinach)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2011, 11:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/18 "2011-01-17T11:34:15Z")
Hmmm, I was actually about to search for this topic myself and came across this thread on the index page. Do you think, after someone’s been exposed to an [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) OD and their brain goes ‘whoa’, that they would trust you less? ---
**Author:** ![Whitehall](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/whitehall/32/1087_2.png) [@Whitehall](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Whitehall)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 4:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/19 "2011-01-18T04:12:29Z")
> [@Holmes](#): > > Elaborate… Hydraulic rigor mortis failure. Even with viagra. Very atypical! ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 9:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/20 "2011-01-18T09:00:40Z")
for really ingishtful views on megadoses of IH read the Mad Tater - Journal … Tater loves to megadose on IH and reading his Journal is beneficial in a lot of ways … Pago ---
**Author:** ![magicj76](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/magicj76/32/1858_2.png) [@magicj76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magicj76)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2011, 11:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394/21 "2011-01-18T11:09:00Z")
Yeah, as Phya put it, people end up in “verbal diarrhea” and you end up being a psychanalyst, which may not be what you’re aiming at ! [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/oding-on-instant-honesty-what-happens/14394.md?page=2)