# Official MX415 discussion thread, men: UF2 reports from a night out and work

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514>\
**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [March 2, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514 "2011-03-02T01:20:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![RJS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ea5d25/32.png) [@RJS](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RJS)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/1 "2011-03-02T01:20:13Z")

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**What is MX415?**

MX415 is the part of the **New UF2 Pack.**

AWESOMENESS ADVISORY: THE ‘PROJECT UF EXPERIMENT’ HAS ENTERED PHASE 2!

**Status:**  **Not Currently in Production**

**Request MX415 here** : [RequestMX@androtics.com](mailto:RequestMX@androtics.com)

**Quote from original Release Thread August 12th, 2011]:**

> [@](#):
>
> Now the new experiment has begun: MX414 - MX419  
> Each of these MXs in the pack have the same formula of MX391 but with varying diffusion modifiers and diffusion packages. These can also effect how the pheromones work as well.

> **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/new-project-uf2-mix-pack-mx414-56485.html)**
>
> Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life

**How to Test:**

Spray like you would your usual cologne or perfume, on your usual pulse points.

This mix has been calibrated to work best at a two spray dosage. Start there but try everything.

We’re seeking to understand how the diffusion component works with the pheromonal molecule. At least once test with your usual cologne, so we can see how the diffusion technology we are testing works with cologne.

Spray. Let dry. Sniff. Does the smell remind you of anything? What do you notice yourself feeling?

What to Report:

We’re collecting data on a few parameters, which I’ll explain here.

Strength- How strong did you feel the effects? On yourself? On others? Did it hit you over the head, or was it more subtle?

**Length of Effects** - When did you notice the onset of effects? When did you notice the outset? When did it peak? When did it wane?

**Tenacity** - Tenacity refers to ?staying power?, or the aggressiveness of the cologne. Does it seem to “attack” people around you, or is it more of a “slow burner”? Does it seem like you can point your fume in one direction or another?

**Effectiveness & Consistency** - How effective is this mix on a scale of 1-10 (1 bad, 10 killer)? Have its effects been consistent over time?

**Diffusion/Sillage** - Sillage refers to your ?vapor trail?. Think of it like the wake of a ship. How many feet/meters is your vapor trail? Do people seem to follow your silage?

Other weird questions that help clarify:

If it were music, what would it sound like?  
If it had a texture, what would it feel like?  
If it were edible or drinkable, what would it taste like?  
What celebrity or public figure is it most like?

Ask yourself these questions during and after you’ve gotten a good feel of this mix.

Thank you,

RJS  
Research Assistant  
Androtics Direct

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2011, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/2 "2011-03-06T03:46:48Z")

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Drunk report. 2x mx415 either side of the neck. Had two women check me out. Very hard stares. Gonna see what I can do with my subject.

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**Post date:** [August 20, 2011, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/3 "2011-08-20T20:08:52Z")

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okay, I needed a full day to recover from thursday night’s fun. And fun it was. However I don’t feel that mx415 played as big a part as many would think due to a variety of factors.

1. Subject is in her sexual prime. If anything UF2 just nudges things along.
2. Much alcohol was involved.
3. the group setting was at a bar and the crowd was very much sexually open minded.

Earlier in the day: a314 one drop split to either side of the neck.

Self effects: The usual. Increased confidence.

Effects on others: Mild shit testing from others in the hashing group I was with but  
apparently that’s to be expected with new folks. The woman I’m seeing noticed a314 and is a definite fan of it. It puts her in a good mood and she’s generally more flirtatious when I wear it. In the rare occasion that I don’t wear anything, she’s not as flirtatious.

Headed back to her place for a quick shower and change. Washed off a314 as I didn’t want to have crossed signals. Two sprays of mx415 either side of the neck. I noticed a hint of baby powder but it dissipated very quickly.

At the bar:

total duration: approximately 5-6 hours.

noted effects:

I’m standing by the bar, waiting for a drink. Not really paying attention to anyone in particular when I noticed two rather largish women both turn and look at me with this hard, long, amused stare. I didn’t pursue anything as that was not my intent but it was definitely interesting to see such a reaction.

The rest of the evening started getting a bit hazy especially with all the rum but I didn’t notice much reaction from other people at the bar. Most of the folks that are from the running group are very sexually flirtatious, loads of ass slapping, flashing of random body parts, bad karaoke, etc. flash forward to about 130am, The woman i’m seeing, a friend of hers and I are nekked in his hot tub. Nice night out, interesting activities involving my friend being propped up and…yea you figure out the rest 😉

An hour later, loads of good sex. We’re lying in bed and she asked if I was wearing anything, I said yea and asked her what it smelled like. she sniffs the app point and moans “Smells like sex” and then she got more…“cuddly” Oh she also said “Tell that place you buy this stuff from, it fucking works.”

Things for new members to note.

1. This woman is in her sexual prime, so getting her into the mood isn’t difficult.
2. She’s sexually open, also due to her current sexual state.
3. Because of the two points above, I’m uncertain as to how much of an effect mx415 actually had on her. If anything, it just enhanced what was there.
4. Don’t assume anything about these mixes. Just because we’re reporting on what happened while wearing them, does not mean that it’s a result OF wearing it. Case in point, the woman and I are already in a sexual relationship and she’s in her prime so not much effort is needed there. Just creativity. Also the hot tub was coincidence. A pleasant coincidence none the less but that’s it.

Regardless, I do know that she’s proven much more receptive to pheros than without and despite that she knows that I wear pheros, it hasn’t affected anything as of yet. In fact she rarely if ever mentions it.

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**Author:** ![magus808](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@magus808](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/magus808)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 6:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/4 "2011-08-23T18:35:36Z")

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Just got home from the Graveyard shift. It was just me and a female co-worker on the shift. This co-worker is a snob, doesn’t talk to anyone. Nobody likes to work with her. She only wears expensive name brand stuff and carries Louis Vuitton, Coach type of bags. Pretty much her mom and dad are loaded, and buys her anything she wants. She never talks to us on a personal level so nobody knows anything about her. She’s been here for about 3 months, and pretty much keeps to herself.

Perfect time to test out UF2.

MX415:

2 sprays one to the neck, and one to my wrist spread to my other wrist before I left home to go into work.

Got into work, and sat down at my computer next to her. She was reading a book. I logged into facebook while keeping an eye on her if she would take a look at me or not. 5 minutes go by and she’s still in the book, not even a glance. I then decide to just ask her what book she is reading. She says The Girl Who Kicked The Hornets Nest. Trying to make conversation, I ask her what it’s about. She puts the book down and starts explaining somehting about this is the 3rd book in the series, and somehting about a movie will be out this year for people like me who don’t like to read.

Long story short, She logged into facebook and started showing me pictures of her boyfriend, friends, etc. had a really good conversation with her. After about 30 minutes of talking, the conversation somehow turns into a tanning booth topic. She then says she goes in the standup booth totally nude, and doesnt wear those things on her eyes. Overall I had a great conversation with her.

Tomorrow I work with her again, I’m going to try 3 sprays of MX415 to see if I can get better results.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [August 23, 2011, 9:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/5 "2011-08-23T21:05:33Z")

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I used three sprays of MX415 last night at BStars and didn’t get much from it. I was surprised because made me wet girl was there and she responds to anything. It could have just been an off night, but nothing to report on yet.

Tonight I have a trip to the supermarket so we shall see.

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 11:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/6 "2011-08-24T11:50:37Z")

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> [@magus808](#):
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> I’m kind of on the fence about mones without smell. I guess I’m not used to it, but I sort of rely on the smell to remind me I have mones on. (kind of a crutch) With MX415 it feels as if I don’t have anything on even though I put 3 sprays on me. Stelath Diffusion is a great idea and concept, it just might take me a little bit to get used to it.

I know exactly what you mean. I’ve been using [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/) on and off for the last few years now, and odd as it may seem, I find a weird sort of comfort in smelling them. It’s like “Wait! Stop! _sniff check_ 'k, I’m cool” I figure as long as I can smell it, something’s got to be diffusing.

This isn’t a complaint, mind you. If the tests show pretty conclusively that there’s noticeable diffusion going on without the smell, I call that a Good Thing™

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**Post date:** [August 24, 2011, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/7 "2011-08-24T17:19:10Z")

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With MX415 I can definitively smell pheromones, but I won’t say it smells like -NONE. To me the NOLS have a distinct pheromone sweaty socks scent to them, that IMHO is just as loud as -NONE. Actually -NONE isn’t as stinky as A1 or NOLS to me.

Anyway I like these so far because I can get away with wearing them at the gym too. I don’t wear any there except a couple drops of A314 applied an hour before to let the scent die down. You do not want to be known as the cologne guy in the Mid-South, especially at the gym.

The only foreseeable issue I had with MX415 is it really smells sweaty. That would be A-OK after the gym but heading in before you even get sweaty might give the wrong impression that you don’t shower. So I used one spray under my shirt, but there was no females there today that I was attracted to. One really hot blond did come in to tan, but she merely walked by.

However last night I went to Wally-World to pick up some stuff. I stopped off at BStars to get a cup of coffee traversing the drive through. Probably had nothing to do with anything but I did get a cup for free. This girl is one that I have written about before and is just lovely and the whole package. I did mention that I live in the Mid-South though AKA the bible belt! The drive through girl has an incredible body designed explicitly for sex and she is a bible thumping, God fearing Southern Baptist and that is OUT of the question. We talked about bands once and she kept mentioning all these bands I never heard of before. LOL to my exasperation they were all christian rock bands. No wonder I never heard of them before. Not knocking it, its just not my thing.

So onto Wally World and the wonderful people of walmart 🙄. Usually I go pretty late, but I wanted to get back to watch part 1 of the Deathly Hollows. I think there is some law that all the freakiest people congregate at Wally-World after 10 pm. I swear if they put up a big top they could charge admission. Seriously like WTF! Luckily I made the decision to go earlier after the last time. There were a bunch of mommies and some really fine ones at that. While I didn’t have any interactions with anyone per say, I noticed that whenever I went down an isle the same mommies just happened to show back up. I got lots of smiles and overall MX415 showed some promise. More so than my initial test. I was happy with the results, but I’m thinking this one might be better served in a club/bar/party environment.

While the lack of a heavy scent they certinly can be worn at more opportunities, however the distinct [pheromone scent](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/) might stop some users in more formal settings. I’ll be heading into Memphis tonight so I’ll bring this along for the ride.

Be Happy 😃

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/8 "2011-08-26T15:58:20Z")

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MX415 smell of pheromones lasts forever. I’m talking hours later and you still smell like you just got out of the gym. It’s not very pleasant and actually is working as a repellent. The other night at wallyworld was a coincidence in my view. Sure lots of mommies and smiles, but it was a BIG open space and nothing has indicated it was the actual mix. I wore two sprays of MX415 last night to dinner and concert with my pop and he even mentioned how bad it stunk.

I just didn’t get any responses from females. A few girls that I’ve had “relations” with kind of were distant last night. Perhaps it was because I was with my dad, but he is a real ladies man. Usually the girls I’ve dated all love him.

At Alison Krause there was a girl with her boyfriend in the seat right next to me. It was honestly as if she couldn’t get far enough away from me. By the end of the show she was practically sitting in his lap.

So yeah overall opinion of MX415 is to loud on the pheromones smell and seems to be driving the ladies away. I’ll give it a go in some coffee shops and the likes, but as for going out, out, this one is not doing it for me.

Tonight I might hit up a hooka bar so this might be perfect for MX415. I’ll keep you all posted.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/9 "2011-08-31T18:43:46Z")

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MX415 is a bust for me. Got nothing in multiple venues. I used it at 1 - 5 sprays over the course of the last two weeks and haven’t got a thing. I can say unequivocally it smells really, really bad as far as the underlying mones. I used it on my neck, wrists, chest, stomach and each time it lingered for hours after. The heavy, heavy scent of body odor, but no effects at all. One person actually moved away from me. Wondering if anyone else has got this or any results from it.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/10 "2011-09-01T13:54:27Z")

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\*\*Date: August 30th - Sept 1st

1. Pheromones Used\*\*  
1S MX415

**2. Purpose of Application**  
MX415 Testing

**3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes**  
Caffeine rush effect.

**4. Self Effects after 3 hours**  
Aggressive in an attractive way.

**5. Location**  
Campus/Office

**6. Environment**  
Happy mood in office, public holidays in between.

**7. People’s Reaction**  
So right, MX415. Effects wise, similar towards MX414, however, would like to note that the range is really short compared to MX414.

The -none was covered, but the lifetime of the cover only lasted about 30 minutes at most.

Began to really smell the -none after I reached the 1 hour mark.

In that sense, people could more or less still be affected by the mones, but the scent probably affected them more than the mones itself.

Thank god I tried this during the down-period of the week, not a lot of fishes during this week, only the small pawns in the office.

More or less everyone didn’t bother with me much, gave approving nods but more or less went their own way about doing things.

Tried to smile a lot but was in a major aggressive mood in my inside game. Was really tempted to spray on some IS on the third day but resisted just to see the congruent effects.

This was probably one of the rare times since I more or less was very near ghosting. Not that it mattered much during this week, but good to notice to stay away from MX415 for work and office wear.

_ **People do notice you, but not in a sparklish way. They notice you as someone who stands out because something somewhere doesn’t seem right for some reason.** _

Would like to add that a friend mentioned, “You seem slightly different the past few days, anything interesting happening?” - She’s usually quite conservative and keep comments to herself, so it’s something quite out of the ordinary, for her.

**8. Summary**  
**Strength**  
After dry down, only slight scent, but scent came back after time span of 30 minutes. Full blast after an hour.

**Length of Effects**  
Although it did generate similar effects of MX414, the positive effects only lasted during the first 10-15 minutes of the application. Peaked at 25 minutes, and started to die off at minute 50-60 minute mark

**Tenacity**  
Opened conversations effortlessly but had trouble retaining control. People seemed eager to enter and eager to eject once they get nearer to you.

**Effectiveness**  
Effective in terms of hiding the scent? Not as much as MX414. Range wise, roughly about 1m. People stay away more than anything the close they get. Came as too overbearing after awhile.

**Diffusion/Silage**  
People are aware of it. They can sense something is out of the ordinary, whether or not in a good or bad way. It is apparent the nearer they get to you where they start to inhale the scent.

1. Good positive effects beyond 1m mark.
2. The closer they are, the more aware they are.
3. Ejection button when they reach a arm length’s distance.
4. Not a good choice for work and co-operative play

Will test this out in field. More than anything, hope that it would be better

_ **I’m beginning to wonder if the scent package affects the effects of this mix. Generally the effects are similar, but the diffusion causes people to react differently. Very prevalent in the range aspect.** _

Taken from: [Journal Entry 30th Aug - 1st Sept 2011](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx414-discussion-thread/61513/89)

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/11 "2011-09-01T16:28:47Z")

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> [@Oasis314](#):
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> * * *
> 
> _ **I’m beginning to wonder if the scent package affects the effects of this mix. Generally the effects are similar, but the diffusion causes people to react differently. Very prevalent in the range aspect.** _

I have thought of this for a while it is nice to know that good minds think a like. I think this is the reason some mx’s or “burn fast and hit hard” and other are slow builders.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/12 "2011-09-01T20:29:41Z")

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9-1-11

Quantity: Mx 415 .5 spray to wrist 1 spray to neck  
Cologne cover: n/a  
Environment: self test  
Self Effects:  
Effects on Others:  
Range: 6-12 feet

This is a self test

At first smell it smelt like something my grandma would wear it was floral, a light floral, like a watered down body lotion. This stuff reminds me of a perfume my grandma wore when I lived with her. I think it smells like a watered down version of neroil, with a smack of none to the face, and that is not a good thing.

The smell turns from floral to almost like a not showered smell, like after i got done working out or something. I think this could be a turn of to women if they think you don’t know how to wash your own A\*\*.

This is especially true do to the fact I wear these at work , I know i not suppose to, but there are so many milf’s and hb’s that walk into my store it would be stupid not to. I could see how this scent would be off putting to them.

After an hour or so the scent seems to really intensify. I smell like that guy off of half baked “nasty nate”

[![](http://listentoleon.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/nasty-nate.jpg) ](http://listentoleon.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/nasty-nate.jpg)

Will report more later

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2011, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/13 "2011-09-01T21:37:07Z")

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> [@smellymen2002](#):
>
> 9-1-11
> 
> Quantity: Mx 415 .5 spray to wrist 1 spray to neck  
> Cologne cover: n/a  
> Environment: self test  
> Self Effects:  
> Effects on Others:  
> Range: 6-12 feet
> 
> This is a self test
> 
> At first smell it smelt like something my grandma would wear it was floral, a light floral, like a watered down body lotion. This stuff reminds me of a perfume my grandma wore when I lived with her. I think it smells like a watered down version of neroil, with a smack of none to the face, and that is not a good thing.
> 
> The smell turns from floral to almost like a not showered smell, like after i got done working out or something. I think this could be a turn of to women if they think you don’t know how to wash your own A\*\*.
> 
> This is especially true do to the fact I wear these at work , I know i not suppose to, but there are so many milf’s and hb’s that walk into my store it would be stupid not to. I could see how this scent would be off putting to them.
> 
> After an hour or so the scent seems to really intensify. I smell like that guy off of half baked “nasty nate”
> 
> [listentoleon.net](http://listentoleon.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/nasty-nate.jpg)
> 
> Will report more later

Exactly what I wrote too. It might have been the funk, but no results from this one at all for me.

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**Post date:** [September 2, 2011, 2:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/14 "2011-09-02T02:11:01Z")

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> [@Official MX414 discussion thread, men: UF2 pack diffusion test reports](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx414-discussion-thread-men-uf2-pack-diffusion-test-reports/61513/92):
>
> Hmmmmm. How long did it take before it smelled floral to when it smelled ‘not showered’?
> 
> Oh and I know you’ve probably mentioned this 1000 times before, but what kind of store do you work in?
> 
> Which scent intensifies after the hour? The underlying pheromone smell or the floral note?

I sprayed it on and it smelt like a cheap grandma for the first hour then it went into the sweat and body order mode from and hour onward. I had to wash it off. I did notice that my core body temp went up while I was wearing it I started mildly sweating even in a room that was low humidity and about 70 degrees.

Mx 415 does not have a vapor trail to me at one spray it stay close to the skin like 414, but it seems the scent is much stronger.

I work in a grocery store, it is well ventilated about 70-75 degrees and hardly any humidity. The sweat sock smells seems to intensify after the first hour.

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**Post date:** [September 3, 2011, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/15 "2011-09-03T03:56:46Z")

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9-2-11

1.Pheromones Used  
2S MX415

1. Purpose of Application  
MX415 Testing

2. Self Effects for first 5 Minutes  
Slight Rush like a caffeine buss to the head

3. Self Effects after 3 hours  
Assertive, Could be seen as Aggression by Others

4. Location  
Work

5. Environment  
Mid 70 F Slight Breezes from the A/C

6. People’s Reaction  
Lots of Interest from Jennifer, she kept bending over right in front of me and ask me on a number from 1-10 what I thought she was. I told her a six and her personality made her a seven. She asked me why she was not a ten, I told her I did not know her that well and she had the potential. She told me one way or another she was going to prove to me that she was a ten. I thought it was interesting that she thought she had to prove herself to me; she has not done this with the other mixes.

We were in the back room and I had just added some 415 to my neck. I saw her checking the schedule. I went right up to her and her nose was about 2-3 feet away from my neck and I could tell it was affecting her; she had one of her feet on her tippy toes and she was shaking it hard. I think it was a lot of nervous sexual energy.

I also noticed that she want to talk to me more today she liked having me around. She kept trying to talk about her problems and I was not going to be an emotional tampon so I left and went back to my department, she followed me and got a nice whiff of 415 and she kept following me until another manager noticed and wanted to talk to her.

1. Summary  
The scent smelled like nasty nate, for about 10 minutes then gym socks for an hour and then the scent went away

Length of Effects  
The effects lasted a long time 2-3 hours for self effects

Tenacity  
Women seemed to congregate around me and guys stayed away, the respect was there.

Effectiveness  
3-4 Meters it was very close to the skin

Diffusion/Silage

I think it is more of a cloud than a trail with 415 the diffusion seem to burn quickly and I got some good fast hits from jenn.

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\*\*Date: 1st Sept 2011

1. Pheromones Used\*\*  
1S MX415

**2. Purpose of Application**  
MX415 Testing

**3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes**  
Caffeine rush effect.

**4. Self Effects after 3 hours**  
Aggressive.

**5. Location**  
Bar/Club

**6. Environment**  
Friday Vibe.

**7. People’s Reaction**  
I was really reluctant to test this out in a bar/club setting to be honest. Was tempting to bring with me some IS in case things go bad. But it seems that I didn’t need to.

So it’s a Friday, sad for me, love my job 🙂

But hey, more testing in bars and clubs.

Decided to move alone that Friday night, went to a regular bar. Because of my previous testing in the office, decided to apply it straight only after I arrived at the bar and club.

Reached and did the usual follow up with the staff, their turnover of staff seems to be even more often these past few days.

Went to the gents and hit myself up with 1S of MX415.

Waited for the dry down after 5 minutes and quickly open a set nearby. Conversation went well. Noticed that guys seem quiet and girls seemed flirty. Was eyeballing them one by one and giving them the girl code look. Hit them with a DHV story and hooked one of them to open and merge another set nearby.

_ **Note that I was really relying on my social skills rather than mones at this point.** _

I could sense that guys were really more likely to give way towards me towards the girls. I could not sense that they were giving threats in terms of pushing me away.

Had to engage girls by kino through some routines and went well.

When I hit the 25 minute mark, which was the peak on my previous tests, I went straight into isolating. Went smoothly.

**So 1-on-1.**

this is where this _ **shines.** _

Girl was really sweet, in her late ten’s. Chatted with her and went about building comfort. I noticed that after we sat on the couch, the mood went into a cloud on its own.

It’s like there a space between the environment and the conversation. I was not really pulling much onto the strings and engaging. She was the one engaging most of the time. I was laid back and she was reeled in whenever I gave her a quiet gaze and smile.

After an hour or so, where the scent of -none seems to really kick in, the space between the environment and us grew bigger. People didn’t seem to pay much attention to our little conversation, people danced by, I didn’t get much attention from others.

_ **However.** _

The attention of the girl I was with, skyrocketed.

It was as if there’s a _ **bubble of space** _. We were in our own cloud and the _ **noise from the outside world disappeared.** _

After the hour mark, she was _literally_ engaging kino _ **all the way** _. We didn’t shift our location but lets just say that there was _ **major** _ kino going about.

**Throughout the whole night, she uttered the one phrase that left me smiling, “_You smell soooo different_.”**

**8. Summary**  
**Strength**  
After dry down, only slight scent, but scent came back after time span of 30 minutes. Full blast after an hour.

**Length of Effects**  
Similar effects to MX414 after the 25 minute mark but transforms after the first hour.

**Tenacity**  
Ejection button constantly after they get nearer, especially after the one hour mark.

**Effectiveness**  
Effective in 1-to-1 with strong foundation. Have to use it with established skills or already established relationships.

**Diffusion/Silage**  
Same as in office, but it seems that when people are attracted and you are already building comfort, this seems to strengthen that close kino effect.

1. Wow for 1-to-1 where attraction and comfort is on the way.
2. Great if you want guys around you to go away.  
_ **3. You put up a “Do-Not-Disturb” sign after the hour has past.** _

Taken from: [Journal Entry: Sept 1st, 2011](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx414-discussion-thread/61513/100)

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**Post date:** [September 4, 2011, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/20 "2011-09-04T20:01:19Z")

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How do I become a tester for this UF pack?  
Thanks Level

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**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 12:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/21 "2011-09-05T00:18:15Z")

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Well, if you don’t want to pay the non RU price, start out by testing and reporting on the consumer line. Constant reporting and good reports at that will get you towards reporting user status. Otherwise, you can get UF2 but you’ll have to pay full price for it.

@Steve: Nice, now how far out of the norm would you say that is for that strip club? Yea it’s out of the norm, I’m just curious as to how much of that is UF and how much of it is you.

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_scribbling down a note_ Must… get… to… Memphis… and hang… with… Steve…

There we go.

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> [@data4](#):
>
> _scribbling down a note_ Must… get… to… Memphis… and hang… with… Steve…
> 
> There we go.

Nah, Maybe a Big Get ToGether… Could you Imagine an AD Convention… The Place would Reek of [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/)… Although it would be Fun to Actually put Faces with Names…

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