# Official MX415 discussion thread, men: UF2 reports from a night out and work

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514>\
**Category:** MX Test Results\
**Created:** [March 2, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514 "2011-03-02T01:20:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\
**Post date:** [September 5, 2011, 10:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/24 "2011-09-05T10:42:48Z")

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\*\*Date: 2nd Sept 2011 - Night

1. Pheromones Used\*\*  
1S MX415

**2. Purpose of Application**  
MX415 Testing

**3. Self Effects for first 5 minutes**  
Caffeine rush effect.

**4. Self Effects after 3 hours**  
Aggressive.

**5. Location**  
Bar/Club

**6. Environment**  
Saturday, air conditioned vibe.

**7. People’s Reaction**  
So I met up with my friend again after last Saturday’s encounter. Was seriously wondering whether to switch back to MX414 given her good reactions to it initially but decided to try out MX415, would make a good comparison for that night anyway.

Usual, sprayed it on only before I met her.

She looked DEAD gorgeous that night.

Since I was with her in the first hour, it was a lot easier to open up other groups this time. Entered the club and sets flew open during the first 15 minutes. after dry down.

Noticed she kept clinging on to me the more I opened, giving stares towards other girls when we were trying to open sets.

After 30 minutes or so, she literally dragged me away from the conversation and we got onto the dance floor.

_ **Oh MX415, what have you done?** _

It was _ **insane.** _

I’ve noticed that the previous night there seemed to be a bubble, that however was in an isolated area, it gave the EXACT same effects during the dance at the dance floor.

She was literally engaging kino the whole entire night. Felt like we were putting up a in-the-heat show in the middle of the dance floor.

After the hour passed by, she dragged me towards the vip room.

MX414 at 1S?

_Sensual._

MX415 at 1S after an hour?

_ **A very wild ride.** _

**8. Summary**  
**Strength**  
After dry down, only slight scent, but scent came back after time span of 30 minutes. Full blast after an hour.

**Length of Effects**  
Similar effects to MX414 after the 25 minute mark but transforms after the first hour.

**Tenacity**  
Ejection button constantly after they get nearer, especially after the one hour mark. But the target stays with you.

**Effectiveness**  
Effective in 1-to-1 with strong foundation. Have to use it with established skills or already established relationships.

**Diffusion/Silage**  
Same as in office, but it seems that when people are attracted and you are already building comfort, this seems to strengthen that close kino effect.

1. Even at a high energy environment, effects is pronounced.
2. If you have already established very good 1-to-1 relations this is the bomb after it hits the 1 hour mark.
3. If you had sexual relations before and there is intention this is overkill.  
_ **4. NOT FOR WORK** _  
_ **5. STRICTLY FOR SOLO USE** _
4. AMAZING for ISOLATION.

Taken from: [Journal Entry, 2nd Sept, 2011](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-official-mx414-discussion-thread/61513/101)

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 5:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/25 "2011-09-06T17:54:48Z")

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> [@2000GT](#):
>
> Well, if you don’t want to pay the non RU price, start out by testing and reporting on the consumer line. Constant reporting and good reports at that will get you towards reporting user status. Otherwise, you can get UF2 but you’ll have to pay full price for it.
> 
> @Steve: Nice, now how far out of the norm would you say that is for that strip club? Yea it’s out of the norm, I’m just curious as to how much of that is UF and how much of it is you.

Completely out of the normal!

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**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/26 "2011-09-25T23:44:47Z")

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Just a quickie here.

Application: 2 sprays of MX415 to wrists

Location: Wal-Mart at 2 AM.

I had to go pick up some things and since I’m a night owl, I prefer to go to WM that late to avoid the crowds. There are a few 20-35ish women who work the night shift there, so I figured I’d scope out for effects. I crossed paths with many a pallet jack pulling stocker and every time it was smiles and deference. I used to work at a WM a looooong time ago, and I remember that the stockers weren’t the friendly types, so I thought this might be a hit.

I got in line and the only people ahead of me were some douchebags from Bellevue (anyone familiar with the area probably understands what I mean here, but suffice it to say, Bellevue is home to the popped collar set around these parts). I only knew their location because as I was approaching the line, they were flirting with the cashier loudly and obnoxiously, and telling her they were from BV and were down here visiting bros. When I approached, it was like someone threw a switch and they clammed up. This could have been any number of things-- they could have been embarrassed to do this in front of another customer, as before my arrival, they were the only ones in line. Or, they could have caught an alpha vibe from me and my pheros. I was dressed in a dark green t-shirt and black jeans, and while I’m still on the overweight side of my weight loss journey, my torso and arms are definitely showing that I’ve been working out the last few weeks. Who knows, maybe I’ve unconsciously developed a swagger?

So anyway, my turn comes up and the cashier is suddenly a chatterbox. She’s going on and on about stuff that I can’t even recall. Comments about my purchase (which used to bother me-- it’s none of your damned business what I’m getting and what I’m using it for. Just ring and bag it!), but I was cracking up.

Regarding a large bag of frozen veggies: “Ohmygod! Are-you-making-stir-fry-with-this? Cause-I-made-some-stir-fry-last-night-and-OH-MY-GOD-it-was-good!”

Regarding a couple articles of clothing: “Do-you-want-me-to-fold-these? Cause-one-lady-got-all-mad-that-I-didn’t-fold-them and-I-was-like-‘Oh-my-God!’-cause-you’d-think-people-wash-new-clothes-before-they-wear-them-cause-you-don’t-know-who-has-tried-them-on!”

Anyone else have any experience with this pack and chatty girls?

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2011, 9:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/27 "2011-09-29T09:05:15Z")

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> [@Steve](#):
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> So yeah first time ever with a stripper and a ONS to boot. So far anyway.

MY KING! Sire, my sword is yours. I shall follow you in to battle any time, anywhere.

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**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/28 "2011-10-09T15:20:24Z")

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Have been playing around quite a bit with MX415 the last days …

with 1 spray i had some overdose effects on younger women ..

strangely with 4 Sprays i had freakingly good hit´s on women over 40 … cougar crowd ..

one example .. asking me if they can sit over at my table at the breakfast in the hotel ..

hit´s became visible after 15 mins after application ..

duration … over 5 hours

**Pago**

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**Post date:** [October 14, 2011, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/29 "2011-10-14T07:06:44Z")

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I crossed the streams!

Anyone else ever mix 2 of the MXes together? Since the base phero content is supposed to be the same, I imagine a combo wouldn’t really amount to anything but a heavy application, but I said “screw it!”

Pheros used: MX415, MX418, and some [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) to soften it up.

Application: 3 sprays each of the MXes, one on each side of the neck and one to the chest, 2 sprays of IH to the wrists. Since the IH has that light neroli scent anyway, I decided to use cover. Creed Aventus, applied after the pheros dried down, appx 15 minutes.

Location: Work.

I was off Mon-Wed due to a bum leg. Monday, a handful of new people started, so when I walked in, I saw some unfamiliar faces here and there. Immediately, a guy I had been training last Thursday and Friday approached me about some questions, and as I was answering them, I saw a girl I once had an interest in (referred to her as Sarah in prior reports) bringing a cart of stuff into the area. I suddenly got hit with the flirt stick and started playfully teasing her about they way she parallel parked the cart, how I bet she failed that in the driving exam, etc. She immediately started qualifying herself by telling me just how good she can do it, which I thought was kinda funny.

I finished with the trainee and turned him loose, then entered the main work area. I had a few of my coworkers, new employees in tow, come up to me asking where I’d been. General interactions with them were very fluid, quick witted, and upbeat. When I’d make eye contact with one of the new people, I said with a welcoming smile, “Ah, new face. My name’s Jon, how are ya?” with an extended hand. Everyone reacted positively to that, which pretty much set the tone for the rest of the day.

As I said before, the combining of two MXes probably just stacked the same phero profile into a heavy application, but the net result was a very outgoing demeanor and positive alpha vibe. All my interactions were similar, and my part in them was polite, professional, and with a definite sense of authority that was not in the least bit overbearing. Had the new people been alone with no one who knew me around to call bullshit, I probably could have lead them to believe I was a manager, just by the way I acted. All in all, a good experience.

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**Post date:** [October 17, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/30 "2011-10-17T00:40:32Z")

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Decided to do some Wal-Marting in the middle of the day. Normally, I go late at night because I don’t like crowds, but today I deliberately went in the afternoon to get a chance to do some testing in public. My primary testing ground is at work, so I figure I’m due for something like this.

Product used: MX415  
Application: 1 spray to each wrist, 1 to back of the neck. 3 total.  
Cover: None  
Locale: Suburban Wal-Mart

The place was pretty busy, and it looked like a good proportion of people were there doing after church shopping. Lots of mommies with 2 to 3 kids all decked out in Sunday wear. There were some young couples there too, as well as many groups of 3 or 4 teens. Pretty wide spread of people to gauge reactions from.

I grabbed a cart and deliberately took a slower, easier pace. Normally, I’m all business-- go straight to what I need, go straight to check out, and get out as fast as possible. This time, I matched the pace of those around me. It was like taking a leisurely stroll, and helped force me to look around at people to see what was going on. There were two young women in the produce area looking at bagged salads. They were both talking about which one they should get, and pretty well engaged in the discussion. It sounded like they were planning something. As I got closer, they stopped talking. It was like they were discussing national security or something and clammed up as soon as I showed up. One of them gave me a DIHL, and the other one just kinda smiled and went back to surveying the selection. I rounded the corner out of sight and there was a slight pause, then a giggle from one of them. I COULD have done something more, but I wasn’t in an approaching state. Just wanted to observe.

I kept going, heading towards frozen foods, and didn’t notice much. I got my stuff, then slowly meandered towards checkout. I wish I had a mirror, because while I didn’t see anything as I passed, I had this distinct feeling that some people here and there were giving looks after I was already facing away.

I had about 18 items, but purposely got into the first regular checkout next to the express lanes. The idea was to allow people to move fairly quickly by me so I could widen the field of those in my phero cloud. It paid off. There was one lady, a definite MILF, who kept looking towards me and looking away when I glanced over. She started playing with her hair and her keys. Niiiice! My cashier was cute, and at first she was all business. After hitting the total key, she looked up at me, and it was like someone had turned on a hundred watt bulb behind her eyes. She lit up and beamed a smile. “How are you!?” “Great, thanks!” She held that smile throughout my debit transaction, handed me the receipt and gave me a very hearty “Have a GREAT day!” It’s worth noting that her interactions with the customers ahead of me, while pleasant, were waaay more subdued than that.

So, 3 definite hits and maybe a couple of “drive-by” hits if my gut feeling about being looked at is to be trusted.

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**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\
**Post date:** [November 13, 2011, 1:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/31 "2011-11-13T01:03:03Z")

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> [@Official MX415 discussion thread, women: UF2 mood boost on errands and events](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-women-uf2-mood-boost-on-errands-and-events/61562/5):
>
> So, does this equation mean:
> 
> Pheros + Going to the Grocery Store = Women
> 
> Or:
> 
> Special Outings + Pheros - Going to the Grocery Store = Women
> 
> Or:
> 
> Special Outings + Pheros - Women = Going to the Grocery Store
> 
> Or:
> 
> Women + Special Outings + Going to the Grocery Store = Pheros
> 
> Or:
> 
> Saving it for Special Outings + Taking a Break from Pheros + Taking a Break from Women = Not Using it at the Grocery Store
> 
> Nevermind, damn math, lol…😛

…😮 evil woman! 😛 Well as far as the grocery store goes, there are two problems.

1. I hate the people in this city so that tends to hinder any effects that pheros would have.

2. It’s a big store with a huge AC system so the air current tends to fuck up my cloud unless I’m wearing something with ff21 in it and even that gets messed with.

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**Post date:** [January 1, 2012, 10:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/official-mx415-discussion-thread-men-uf2-reports-from-a-night-out-and-work/61514/32 "2012-01-01T22:58:41Z")

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Is round 3 going to continue the “Stealth Diffusion” methodology? Not that I have anything against it, but MX391 still sits as my favorite of project UF. The scent works really well for me, and the way it balances with the pheromone compliment works really to my advantage. but I know scent is a very subjective thing.

Perhaps when narrowing down Project UF, a head to head pack of the “stealth” version up against a few of Androtics scents?

I think in the long run, the stealth one settles the argument of “well I don’t like that scent” “It smells gross on me,” but I like the all-inclusiveness of having a light cologne scent to the pheromones.

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